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On one hand I'd love to hear whether you reckon these are spoofs or not, and on the other want to hear the most ridiculous yarns someone has spun to you over the years in relation to Metal. (in real life of course, as everyone online is full of shit!)

Was chatting to a lad discussing our favourite albums etc, and the old Ride The Lightning Vs. Master Of Puppets debate came up, he said the first Metallica "album" he ever heard was "No Life 'Til Leather" and thats his favourite - when pushed on it he said he had heard on the tape trading scene before "Kill 'Em All" had even come out - I'm calling bullshit there - and for context he'd have been about 7 years old in 1982 and lived on the North Coast of NI, so there isn't a fucking chance he heard it before KEA came out.

But it did get me thinking - did the "No Life 'Til Leather" demo make it over here in tape trading circles before KEA?

Another one - when the Anvil documentary first came out years ago (2007/08?), we were discussing it in the pub and a lad chimes in with "I was actually  fan of Metal On Metal when it first came out, so I'm not just some trend hopper after the movie" - he would have been 8 or 9 years old in 1982. Again, seems unlikely a kid of that age would have been up on what I would consider a niche/underground release for he time.

How much traction did Anvil have in Ireland in the early 1980s? We're people here into Metal On Metal upon release or did it take a while to filter through?

It's interesting as when it started in '96 Heavy Music was in the toilet and it was a direct reaction to Ozzy not being able to get on the Lollapalooza tour. With Ozzy dead, the festival (& gig) market saturated, and this purely a financial vehicle for Ozzy's disgusting family, I hope it's an absolute flop.

I was at the Sabbath show last year, and while it was unreal, I'd not be rushing back for whoever sharon and kids book (see Yungblud and other buy-on crap). Without Ozzy/Sabbath wtf even is Ozzfest?! Nearly 10 years since the last one and it was weak.

Setlist is looking sweet, better than the last show here, i think I'll go again - worth it to hear those early hits. If only they would tour with Chris Poland - it's a shame he's only done a few US shows with them.

New single here:

Not very inspiring stuff - sonically the production is decent and best in a while from them, but it's a bit samey - main riff sounds like Holocaust's The Small Hours from Metallica's Garage Days and Anselmo is phoning it in.

Still be interested in the album.

I'd put SOAD as easily the worst band to ever make it "mainstream big" in Metal.

Can't think of a worse band that's had the recognition they've had. While I'm no fan of Limp Bizkit or Slipknot - I can see the virtue in their music and their playing - SOAD, nothing worthwhile, some of the absolute worst music I've ever heard, annoyingly bad - awful playing, worse tunes.

FNM opening for them is a travesty.

Anyone read Roddy Bottum's book? While an interesting read in some respects, at time it read like he wasn't even really in band and was more just a friend of Courtney Love's... I get that it's his Bio and not an FNM book - but the way he glosses over band members - "our guitar player..." etc. just seems a bit weird. Good as an insight into alternative lifestyles and some of the earliest days in FNM - but not great as musicians bio.

Another one that John Bush would have been a better vocalist for.

But hooray for Rick Baker turning up in the video!

100% - John Bush would have absolutely rocked this, he'd have taken this bland and listless tune and made it much more engaging - Joey is yesterday's man. Honestly, dunno how there's still interest in this band. I get it, we all grew up on it, the 80s stuff was class, but c'mon.

If this is the cream of the crop as far as the new album goes, you can count me out. More bland, pedestrian by the numbers music from a drummer who'd rather be in a different band, playing different music. (I dread to think what new Pantera music might sound like with a Benante/Wydle writing team - probably some of the dumbest music you'll ever hear)

Seems like in Metal as long as you've churned out 3 classic albums, thats it - you've earned your stripes and and people will put up with anything you just phoned in after.


What's the story with Benante then, too injured to do the Anthrax tour, but was ok for the last run of Pantera dates with Metallica? 

Aye, it's much better than your man from Death Angel.

For what it's worth, I'm confident saying a lot of the current "Metallica family" of my age are people who gave me shit in 6th class or first year for liking Metallica prior to Enter Sandman (or, let's be fucking honest, Nothing Else Matters) came along and made them acceptable. id rather be shot in the face than be around them.

I think thats the crux of it for me and I wouldn't even go back to the success of the black album - it's the social media "blow ins" of a similar age to myself - not a notion of being music fans, never mind metal fans until all it took was owning a smart phone, a social media account and Spotify - next thing they're a massive Metallica fan. People who i knew in the 1990s and 2000s - just normies then - no interest, now "true believers" - or worse, the ones who berated you, called you a "hippy bastard" or whatever - not they're at Deftones, Metallica, Maiden - all the big, entry level gigs - and then they're asking, "Were you not at X" - Nah mate, saw them when they WERE X back in the 1990s. Maybe it's elitist, but I don't care - where were they during Metal's darkest days? Slagging from sidelines or being boring shit heads.

It's just such low effort to be a music fan these days, it's very easy to have distain for them. With the younger ones, it's cool to see - but it's the Jonny come lately's that only cottoned on when it was socially acceptable & accessible I have umbridge with.

Glad people had fun etc. at Metallica, I've certainly heard mixed reports, not least some dissatisfaction with "the Snakepit" and the "in the round" set-up - and i can totally see it. With "in the round" the on stage energy is totally diffused for most of the gig - it's worthless... and don't get me started on the "snakepit" - fundamentally just normalising elitist pricing structures in Metal.

I've seen them loads of times since the Point in 1996 (1999 Point was the best for me) and after seeing them at Back To The Beginning last year, I'm happy enough with that being my final Metallica live show.

Philip Keaveney of Burning Metal Ireland has passed away. A good aul skin and taken far too young, he was a staunch supporter of Irish Metal. Did his last video only 4 weeks ago:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0kXKp3lYZE

It's interesting that Somewhere In Time is coming out as a firm favourite for many these days, I have vague notion of it being maligned/poorly thought of in general until very recently. It was the very first Metal album I EVER got, so holds a special place in my heart, but I will say that "Sea of Madness" & "Heaven Can Wait" don't rate very highly for me.

For me best is either Piece of Mind or Seventh Son of a Seventh Son.

I think the only clanger on Piece of Mind is "Sun and Steel" - total skipper, hate the chorus - would have been a perfect album if they'd dropped it. I love "Quest for Fire" & "To Tame A Land" - top drawer Maiden for me, they've got it all. Outside of the just the tunes, I think the overall atmosphere, cover art and band promo photos all just capture that early 80s Heavy Metal vibe perfectly - before it became somewhat mainstream.

Yeah, while I enjoyed Belfast, it definitely wasn't the best show they've done here.

Kicked off well, but somewhere just past the mid point it started to slide and by the end i was bored and glad for it to be over. We did get a new song which was cool and i'm looking forward to hearing it on the new album, but it was after that point in the set that they lost momentum. Would have loved to have fortunate son or red alert for a bit of energy in the last half.

I'd say Limerick will be killer though, that end of week vibe.

Caught this in Belfast last night, was decent - really enjoyed Space Shepards & Cosmic Dead, but Cosmic Dead were far too loud - had ear plugs in (ER-20s) and my hearing is absolutely destroyed this morning, so attend at your peril.

That was my first time there (both attending & playing), thoroughly enjoyable and fantastic event with loads of great people. The sense of community and friendliness was unreal - just something you don't really seem to see in places like Belfast or Dublin.

Will definitely make the effort to get down again, even as just an attendee!

Anyone pick this up?

Pretty disappointing first couple of listens, Pepper's lost his voice and there's no real killer riffs to speak of.

It came back on in my car on my way home yesterday and I forgot I was even listening to CoC and thought to myself is this Monster Magnet or something?! Overall feels like the worst bits from Keenan-era rolled into one double album. Not sure why it needed to be a "double" album - bands seem incapable of trimming the fat these days and I don't think there's anyone orbiting around these legacy bands to actually tell them the truth. Not surprised Mike Dean walked.

I do really love 1990s CoC, but between the last show here in the Academy and the recent recorded output, it's tough to remain positive about them.

Enjoyed the show last year, they played Into the Lungs of Hell, 502, Mary Jane & In My Darkest hour from SFSGSW - just great to hear Young play those solos. I do rate his work on that album - he lent a George Lynch quality to the material and has the unfortunate timing of being sandwiched in between Megadeth's 2 best lead players.

I'd need to know the "theme" of these gigs before shelling out again, they've been doing some shows in the states with Chris Poland which would be absolutely unreal.