I seen Carcass mentioned a bit in the upcoming albums posts. Surprised to see more than a few still hold Surgical Steel in high regard. Thought it was "grand" upon release but once you got over the fact that Carcass were back I've listened to it less frequently and proper haven't spun it in well over a year.
There was nothing there to leave me frothing at the mouth with anticipation for a new record.
Anyone else underwhelmed?
I really liked it at the time and played it pretty regularly. There was nothing groundbreaking about it alright, just good solid metal.
Having said that it's been years since I gave it a listen and don't really have any inclination to take it out again. Might give it a spin later and see how it holds up
It's hardly one I'd reach for but spinning it again, yep, it's good. I don't think I was exactly blown away by it at the time but I still like it, some songs more than others, and I still think parts of it are weirdly reminiscent of prime Megadeth in the riffing department. I've also finally slowly come round to "Heartwork" as well. I'll be curious what the next album is like but I'm not exactly waiting with baited breath.
Isn't "Reek" 30 years old next year?
Surgical Steel was nothing jaw-dropping but it did bring a warm glow of "nice to have them back" with it. It's a solid album for sure.
Strangely i was very underwhelmed when I first heard it, but when I went back to it later it grew on me.
It came out just when I was getting into Horrendous. Ecdysis and Anareta were just so much better than Surgical Steel, I never got more than halfway through it.
For an old originator band , SS was a very good album,compared to plenty of other bands from the same era it was as good as we were going to get.
I really enjoyed it.
See I don't really buy that. It was hyped to fuck and although it's not atrocious, it's the first Carcass album that adds nothing to their musical journey
I dont think it was hyped at all,,it got good positive reviews,were you expecting Symphonies part 2?
The old board was full of people creaming themselves over it just as an example.
Course I wasn't expecting Symphonies 2. Genuinely wondered where they'd go as they've never really repeated themselves but they played it Uber safe with Surgical Steel, touched on all eras without adding anything new.
I'm really wondering if those that enjoyed it then still hold it in as high regard?
The only Carcass album i could never fully get into was Swansong it had a few good songs but also a few dull ones aswell. Enjoyed Surgical when it came out and still give it a listen now and then its an enjoyable catchy album i think. Would love if the new one sounded like Necrotism or symphonies but i very much doubt it will. But i would be happy with a surgical Sounding release anyway.
It was great too see them back and the album is good but you will never have it as a goto album.
I thought 'Surgical Steel' was ok, sound was a bit too clean (to these ears) but decent enough. Closer to 'Heartwork' than anything else in their back catalogue. I would still rather listen to 'Heartwork' over it though.
I wonder if this next album could bring back a little more of the 'Necroticism' sound, that filthy , low end production.
It was gick. They were incredible back in their day. Necroticism is an untouchabme album
It's a good comeback album, nothing more. Similar to, say, Sol Invictus, which is a good Faith No More album but hardly up there with their best. I think it's a bit much to expect any band, after a lengthy hiatus, to regroup and write material with the same fire and passion they had over 20 years ago.
I thought it was a very good album. Lacking in a real rough edge to it maybe, and generally safe, sure, but it was solid enough for me to keep it on my frequently played list for a good while after. When that initial period where I couldn't put the album down was over with though, I've never revisited it and had it more or less forgotten about. Read into that what you will.
I agree with the comparison between Surgical Steel to Heartwork mentioned previously. I hope if the band want to pay homage to their past again with this new album, they go back a bit farther to the uglier stuff.
Not sure they can win either way. It's either they'll do another Surgical Steel or they will go balls out and pay homage to their past.
Much as I'd love "Symphonies of Sickness" part two my feeling is another album will lean more towards "Swansong". Unfortunately.
Still, I finally got to see "Exhume to Consume" played live so I'm happy either way.
Surgical Steel left very little impression on me at the time and consequently ive ignored it ever since, perhaps a revisit is due. Saw them at Hellfest (in 2010?)and they played a nice best of type set as far as i recall.
I did get a buzz out of hearing a decent Carcass album after so long. Like a few people said, I don't revisit it at all.
QuoteI did get a buzz out of hearing a decent Carcass album after so long
This sums it up for me really. The album has no staying power, I've listened to Nevrotism more if anything since Surgicals release.
Same with Faith No More, thought I loved Sol Invictus upon its release but dug it out for the first time in aeons there the other day and thought it was crap. A handful of decent tracks but really feels unfinished.
Quote from: Cryptic Stench on December 04, 2018, 01:01:45 PM
QuoteI did get a buzz out of hearing a decent Carcass album after so long
Same with Faith No More, thought I loved Sol Invictus upon its release but dug it out for the first time in aeons there the other day and thought it was crap. A handful of decent tracks but really feels unfinished.
I have to say that I agree with this statement, have not revisited 'Sol Invictus' since I bought it on release . Even then, though there were parts I liked a lot, I was largely underwhelmed by the album. Some of that 'magic' wasn't there, for me anyway. But whatever, bands get older and that's just the way it goes.
Naah, still love "Sol Invictus". Couple of songs I'm not jazzed about ("Black Friday" and "From the Dead") but I'd still spin it quite a bit.
New single popped up on Spotify this morning "Living Dead In The Manchester Morgue". Not bad on first listen. New ep in October, lp is delayed. And all the early albums are back on streaming services
While many people were hailing it as a great return at the time, it left little impression on me. Heartwork and Necroticism are way better.
I'd fun reading through this thread - I had it on about a month ago and still think it's great. I'm in the "Heartwork is their best album" camp, so the style here suited me. I think Dan Wilding sufficiently updated their overall sound too.
Agree entirely with Pentagrimes on the previous page about some of it sounding kinda Megadeth-y - that intro to Unfit for Human Consumption!
Time to have a listen to the newie.
Quote from: Cailleach on August 21, 2020, 12:30:32 PM
While many people were hailing it as a great return at the time, it left little impression on me. Heartwork and Necroticism are way better.
I dont think anyone would dispute that,id rate Necroticism as the best DM album to come out of the UK.People just simply pointing out that SS was a good comeback.
Revisited Necrotiscism recently and found it far less exciting than I remember. Some of those songs are way too long.
I'd argue SOS is the best UK death metal album but really that period of Carcass is a different band to everything that came after.
It's (Surgical) a fantastic album that just got better with every listen, I'd rank it third after Symphonies and Necroticism - which is a much better album after you remove the annoying intros.
The new song is a bit of a mess TBH, doesn't do anything for me.
Yeah will give the new one a few more goes later but an initial listen didn't do much.
Those fuckin' intros on Necroticism, bah, hate them. They're the main reason why I've never spent as much time with that album as I otherwise would've.
Quote from: Paul keohane on August 21, 2020, 01:21:39 PM
Quote from: Cailleach on August 21, 2020, 12:30:32 PM
While many people were hailing it as a great return at the time, it left little impression on me. Heartwork and Necroticism are way better.
I dont think anyone would dispute that,id rate Necroticism as the best DM album to come out of the UK.People just simply pointing out that SS was a good comeback.
To be honest I don't think it was all that great of a comeback. It's not an album I'd have any real interest in listening to again.
Unlike this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F812inNWcx0 :abbath:
Another new one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmZ8NwyXCSg