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Title: Diocletian - Amongst the Flames of a Bvrning God
Post by: mickO))) on August 14, 2019, 06:20:08 PM
Anyone else listening to this? Just got it yesterday and its fantastic. 2 new vocalists suit the music perfectly.
Title: Re: Diocletian - Amongst the Flames of a Bvrning God
Post by: hellfire on August 19, 2019, 07:18:39 PM
It's absolutely immense. Dual vocals are fantastic. They stand head and shoulders over the rest of blastbeat loving black/death bands. Pure class at high speed.That drummer really hits with intent. Loving it so far.
Title: Re: Diocletian - Amongst the Flames of a Bvrning God
Post by: Eoin McLove on August 19, 2019, 07:33:15 PM
Will grab it on payday.  The gig here earlier this year was ferocious.
Title: Re: Diocletian - Amongst the Flames of a Bvrning God
Post by: hellfire on August 19, 2019, 07:50:53 PM
Full thing is up on Bandcamp, Andy. Darragh will have the LP/CD this week.  :abbath:
Title: Re: Diocletian - Amongst the Flames of a Bvrning God
Post by: Eoin McLove on August 19, 2019, 08:14:26 PM
Yep,  he sent me a link a while ago.
Title: Re: Diocletian - Amongst the Flames of a Bvrning God
Post by: mickO))) on August 24, 2019, 04:41:13 AM
Still loving this album can't remember what else has been great this year so far but I think this one is top of the list for me.
Title: Re: Diocletian - Amongst the Flames of a Bvrning God
Post by: Eoin McLove on August 24, 2019, 10:05:32 AM
I chose the cheapest postage option which,  ironically, turns out to be the most circuitous route the item can take- Dublin > Germany > Kildare- so I'll be waiting a few days for it to arrive. 

Primordial and Funereal Presence will take some beating from my top spots this year.  Two monumental albums.
Title: Re: Diocletian - Amongst the Flames of a Bvrning God
Post by: polymer on August 27, 2019, 12:32:46 PM
Great release. The fact it's pissing so many people off makes it all the more worthwhile, too.
Title: Re: Diocletian - Amongst the Flames of a Bvrning God
Post by: Eoin McLove on August 27, 2019, 05:19:00 PM
Thankfully missing out on the drama but no doubt it's a War of All SJWs Against All  :laugh:
Title: Re: Diocletian - Amongst the Flames of a Bvrning God
Post by: Mags on August 28, 2019, 05:36:37 PM
why is it pissing people off?
Title: Re: Diocletian - Amongst the Flames of a Bvrning God
Post by: hellfire on September 01, 2019, 11:44:54 AM
Quote from: Mags on August 28, 2019, 05:36:37 PM
why is it pissing people off?

Was wondering that myself.
Title: Re: Diocletian - Amongst the Flames of a Bvrning God
Post by: Pentagrimes on September 02, 2019, 11:19:52 AM
I don't think there is any drama. it might just be Andy having another crack at Metalsucks.
Title: Re: Diocletian - Amongst the Flames of a Bvrning God
Post by: Eoin McLove on September 02, 2019, 11:27:49 AM
It wasn't me who mentioned online drama so I don't know what that's about.  I'm thankfully clueless to any social media muppetry,  but any opportunity to bash Metalsucks and their ilk should be grabbed with both hands.  They are a shite stain on the tattered underwear of the metal scene. In my opinion ;)
Title: Re: Diocletian - Amongst the Flames of a Bvrning God
Post by: Pentagrimes on September 02, 2019, 11:58:58 AM
Maybe it's just pissing people off because it's shite? Or because of the label it's on?
Title: Re: Diocletian - Amongst the Flames of a Bvrning God
Post by: Black Shepherd Carnage on September 02, 2019, 03:14:53 PM
What in christ's name are ye talking about?

The tracks I've heard off this sound grand, but just not different enough from other things that I feel the need to get it. I've enough records that sound sufficiently similar to this to get by on tbh.

Title: Re: Diocletian - Amongst the Flames of a Bvrning God
Post by: Pentagrimes on September 02, 2019, 03:21:34 PM
Kinda nails it for me too Chris, if you're into this style tis grand I'm sure, I found it went in one ear and went out the other personally but I suppose I'm just not really into this style nowadays, I'd happily reach for Sinistrous Diabolous once the need for Kiwi filth kicks in.

The "Label" comment refers to two things - on one hand Profound Lore have had grief from some quarters for putting out Disma, on the other because they put out stuff like Lingua Ignota or Heaven Club I could see die hards giving them stick for that maybe, I've definitely seen the "hipster" label thrown at PL in the past which seems a bit ridiculous given the largely death/black metal content on the roster.. Not really going to lose any sleep over it either way.
Title: Re: Diocletian - Amongst the Flames of a Bvrning God
Post by: Eoin McLove on September 02, 2019, 05:08:54 PM
My copy arrived today. Looking forward to giving it a spin despite the utterly abysmal artwork and layout.  It really looks dreadful to me.
Title: Re: Diocletian - Amongst the Flames of a Bvrning God
Post by: Eoin McLove on September 07, 2019, 09:19:48 AM
Finally getting to sit down with this.  Definitely more in line with Doom Cult and WOAAA than Gesundrian but the production has clarity enough for the riffs to come through.  It's wild,  vicious,  utterly predictable and makes absolutely no attempts to rewrite the Conqueror/ Blasphemy handbook.  Sounds good to me!
I hate the new logo.  No idea why they changed it from the two far superior early ones.  The cover has grown on me in its garishness but the,  no doubt purposeful,  mess that is the inlay looks like dogshite.
Title: Re: Diocletian - Amongst the Flames of a Bvrning God
Post by: Eoin McLove on September 07, 2019, 09:31:07 AM
Fuck it,  round two!
Title: Re: Diocletian - Amongst the Flames of a Bvrning God
Post by: Eoin McLove on September 07, 2019, 10:12:50 PM
Plundered by Hyenas is such a savage song title.

"I was ploughing your oul one out of it last night and by the time I'd finished with her she looked like she'd been plundered by hyenas!"
Title: Re: Diocletian - Amongst the Flames of a Bvrning God
Post by: hellfire on September 07, 2019, 10:23:44 PM
It is probably the best one on there.  I'll admit the cassette version of the artwork is cat. The lp version looks alright to me.
Title: Re: Diocletian - Amongst the Flames of a Bvrning God
Post by: Eoin McLove on September 07, 2019, 10:29:29 PM
The front looks good or has at least grown on me, but the booklet is an eyesore. I'm sure they made it that way on purpose as a reflection of their return to an overall more chaotic war sound and style  (compared with the tight, death metal orientated sound and imagery of Gesundrian) and in that regard I get it.  It just looks like shit and you can't read most of the lyrics which, ironically,  I would probably have found extreme and interesting 10-15 years ago,  but find annoying now that I'm becoming a boring old fart.
Title: Re: Diocletian - Amongst the Flames of a Bvrning God
Post by: mickO))) on September 11, 2019, 07:10:10 PM
Lyrics are all up metal archives. Vinyl and cd booklets seem to be hard to make out. Cover art is great.
Title: Re: Diocletian - Amongst the Flames of a Bvrning God
Post by: Tee on September 12, 2019, 10:17:40 AM
I thought the garish artwork was about the most interesting thing about this release. As with all Diocletians releases, I check it out, think "wow, this is some vicious stuff" and then never feel the urge to re-visit it. Gesundrian was a bit more interesting, but then it was somewhat of a departure from the usual style.
Title: Re: Diocletian - Amongst the Flames of a Bvrning God
Post by: Vadge on September 13, 2019, 01:29:45 AM
They'll be back over next year anyway. Whatever your thoughts on record of late, they are a serious force to be reckoned with on stage
Title: Re: Diocletian - Amongst the Flames of a Bvrning God
Post by: polymer on September 23, 2019, 09:33:52 AM
Quote from: Pentagrimes on September 02, 2019, 11:58:58 AM
Maybe it's just pissing people off because it's shite? Or because of the label it's on?

Nah, was the usual bleating about them being "Nazis", and other similarly jaded assumptions.
Title: Re: Diocletian - Amongst the Flames of a Bvrning God
Post by: hellfire on September 23, 2019, 10:53:08 AM
I honestly haven't heard any of said bleating. I'll admit the booklet in the LP and cassette versions fails as a lyric sheet, still looks kinda cool though.
Title: Re: Diocletian - Amongst the Flames of a Bvrning God
Post by: Pentagrimes on September 23, 2019, 11:10:27 AM
Yeah, neither have I, but I don't go looking for it I suppose. From whence cometh this whining?
Title: Re: Diocletian - Amongst the Flames of a Bvrning God
Post by: polymer on September 23, 2019, 05:01:50 PM
There were direct complaints made to Profound Lore. Most of the back and forth is probably still on their FB page.
Title: Re: Diocletian - Amongst the Flames of a Bvrning God
Post by: Scáthach on December 28, 2019, 11:10:49 PM
Gigs here in May 2020. First week of the month in Limerick and Dublin. Nice!
Title: Re: Diocletian - Amongst the Flames of a Bvrning God
Post by: TurnTheAirBlue on December 29, 2019, 09:40:43 AM
I've only listened to the new one a couple of times, it's good stuff but not a patch on the last one. Loved Gesundrian, that was the pinnacle for me.
The artwork is fucking awful on this one, and McLove is correct, the logo is fucked!!!

Title: Re: Diocletian - Amongst the Flames of a Bvrning God
Post by: Slaughterday on December 29, 2019, 01:41:06 PM
Haven't picked up a Diocletian album in years but will definitely be heading to Limerick to see them live.
Title: Re: Diocletian - Amongst the Flames of a Bvrning God
Post by: Eoin McLove on January 21, 2024, 08:14:51 AM
https://youtu.be/41CKir6wRFY?si=iFLbZjlgb_3RYBjo

New Diocletian video. Album coming out this year on NWN. Sounds pretty Diocletiany.
Title: Re: Diocletian - Amongst the Flames of a Bvrning God
Post by: hellfire on January 21, 2024, 05:43:33 PM
Quote from: Eoin McLove on January 21, 2024, 08:14:51 AMhttps://youtu.be/41CKir6wRFY?si=iFLbZjlgb_3RYBjo

New Diocletian video. Album coming out this year on NWN. Sounds pretty Diocletiany.

The song sounds good. They've never let me down so far. I'll definitely be picking this up.
Title: Re: Diocletian - Amongst the Flames of a Bvrning God
Post by: open face surgery on January 21, 2024, 08:06:38 PM
Must say I was unmoved by it but I'll def check out the album.
Title: Re: Diocletian - Amongst the Flames of a Bvrning God
Post by: BobbyAxelrod on January 27, 2024, 01:40:24 PM
Not a huge Diocletian fan, but I do adore war metal.
Title: Re: Diocletian - Amongst the Flames of a Bvrning God
Post by: Mithrandir on January 28, 2024, 10:35:43 AM
I love Diocletian but Amongst the flames was absolutely fucking shit, this sounds like much the same.
Title: Re: Diocletian - Amongst the Flames of a Bvrning God
Post by: mickO))) on November 04, 2024, 06:32:01 PM
The new album is officially out now. The artwork is terrible the more basic art used on the promo LP copies sold during the European tour earlier this year was so much better.
Title: Re: Diocletian - Amongst the Flames of a Bvrning God
Post by: mickO))) on November 06, 2024, 05:22:07 PM
Having received the album now I think the artwork on the Gatefold and in the booklet is great it seems like the only bad piece was what was chosen for the cover. The art on the front of the booklet would have been great on the cover.

Musically this reminds me of Doom Cult as in it will take a long time to get into it since it doesn't seem to be anywhere near as accessible as Gesundrian or Amongst the flames was.