Poll
Question:
Who do you think is the greatest metal band to come out of the UK?
Option 1: Black Sabbath
votes: 20
Option 2: Iron Maiden
votes: 18
Option 3: Judas Priest
votes: 6
Option 4: Motorhead
votes: 2
Option 5: Other
votes: 8
Said I'd throw this up because I don't think there has been a poll up here yet? Plus I'm bored outta my fucking mind right now :-\
Carcass
Carcass
Iron Maiden of course.
Threw my vote in for Maiden, more than 30 years of listening pleasure.
No Sabbath = No Metal.
Went for motorhead myself - no one agreeing with me thus far though :laugh:
Quote from: Juggz on August 09, 2019, 10:59:35 PM
No Sabbath = No Metal.
Does that make the model T the best automobile ever? :P
Nemtheanga had an argument that I found fairly convincing, along the lines of a metal band could only be a metal band if they saw themselves proudly as such. In that spirit, he took Priest to be the first proper metal band. And, out of the UK, I would say the best too... their highest peaks go just that bit further than Maiden's into metal heaven.
Carcass a good addition, probably could add Paradise Lost to the options too.
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on August 09, 2019, 11:07:24 PM
Quote from: Juggz on August 09, 2019, 10:59:35 PM
No Sabbath = No Metal.
Does that make the model T the best automobile ever? :P
The Model T introduced mass production but was far from being the first so, no, it was not ;)
There is much to say for Maiden and Priest too, but Sabbath covered more ground like a creative explosion. Plus, they made tassels acceptable for men to wear.
Napalm Death, hey.
Overall I prefer Sabbath to Priest, I just think Priest were a better "metal band".
Bolt Thrower
Judas Priest
Primordial
Has to be Sabbath. So many sub genres sprung from their stuff. Iommi is the ultimate riff master.
Maiden here with Priest second.
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Grim Reaper
Quote from: stevie-0 on August 10, 2019, 08:25:49 PM
Iommi
Osbourne
Butler
Ward
The only four members of Black Sabbath. Ever.
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Quote from: Carnage on August 11, 2019, 12:45:48 AM
Quote from: stevie-0 on August 10, 2019, 08:25:49 PM
Iommi
Osbourne
Butler
Ward
The only four members of Black Sabbath. Ever.
Honestly, Dio was technically a better vocalist, but he also had a very carefully constructed, sell records to D&D-type nerds sthick that is just fucking drivel.
One of the most overrated cunts in metal.
Different band after Never Say Die, essentially an Iommi solo project. AOR nonsense.
Heaven and Hell is right up there with the first four as some of their best stuff, and the reunion under the H&H name absolutely pisses all over 13
Sabbath!! And I agree with Trev ^^
My initial reaction to Heaven And Hell was uncontrollable laughter, I still find it hilariously bad. The regard it's held in is baffling. Good Dio performance but terrible, terrible songs.
Only the Osbourne, Iommi, Butler, Ward line-up is real, nothing else he released under the Sabbath name is worth bothering with.
It might have been better for the band to change their name after 1978 in some respects, but the Dio albums are all stone cold classics. IMO if it has Iommi and Butler on it, it qualifies as Sabbath. I do agree that the original line up has a unique vibe to it though.
'AOR nonsense' might be an apt description for much of the Tony Martin era (now those WERE Iommi solo albums in all but name), but you seriously cannot apply that term to Mob Rules or Dehumanizer. Particularly not the latter as it's possibly one of the most savage and heavy records the band ever put out.
The AOR comment was aimed at H&H, I could have been more clear there, but it certainly describes most of his post-NSD output.
If this is AOR, than count me in
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWIGVvwNvjg
I went with Sabbath even though I was always a bigger Priest fan as a youngster. Sabbath's first six records are all phenomenal and I would return to them more now than the other bands. Priest had some phenomenal albums too especially Sad wings of destiny and Defenders of the Faith but really nothing worthwhile after 84 in my eyes anyway.
Maiden similarly were excellent in their early work and peaked at Seventh Son for me, the decline has been marked in all three bands.
Motorhead were consistently good but didn't really push the boundaries except a few songs here and there.
Quote from: Don Gately on August 12, 2019, 01:29:49 PM
really nothing worthwhile after 84 in my eyes anyway.
Not even Painkiller, probably the definitive metal album?!
I'll settle this once and for all. It has to be Sabbath. The first four Sabbath albums are classics that stand the test of time.
Maiden coming in second place is preposterous. The first two albums were good but then they went and sacked the talent and have been riding a wave of mediocrity since 1982. You know things are bad when a bunch of 70 odd year old men have been shoving the same two hour recycled Dragonforce/Dream Theater album down your throat every time they come only toning it down to talk about aeroplanes or make famine jokes.
Motorhead on the other hand were a class act. Far, far, far better records than Maiden ever made.
Not a big Priest guy but Turbo Lover is good.
Black Sabbath all the way. Those first 4 albums are untouchable.
Sabbath Bloody Sabbath and Sabotage are absolute class too.
And to think Black Sabbath the album is 50 years old next year. That's before most of us on this forum were even born.... 1970 baaaaby....
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL5lmIbuJ_sMdsearaCl31bkW9ajZwl5wJ
Quote from: Born of Fire on August 12, 2019, 05:33:48 PM
Quote from: Don Gately on August 12, 2019, 01:29:49 PM
really nothing worthwhile after 84 in my eyes anyway.
Not even Painkiller, probably the definitive metal album?!
Painkiller to me suffers from far too much filler, personally I detest the title track too. Songs like All Guns Blazing, Metal meltdown, Leather rebel are all fairly standard Priest songs but add little really.
Any option apart from Black Sabbath has to be a wind-up, surely?
I went for Sabbath as they're my favourite band and all but it should be noted that based on live form Maiden are the top dog and always have been.
JP are more inconsistent but interestingly Painkiller is probably the best album by any of the above mentioned bands on a song by song basis. Also IMO no band has quite managed to replicate the atmosphere of those 70s Priest albums.
Quote from: Nixer on August 13, 2019, 09:39:42 AM
I'll settle this once and for all. It has to be Sabbath. The first four Sabbath albums are classics that stand the test of time.
Maiden coming in second place is preposterous. The first two albums were good but then they went and sacked the talent and have been riding a wave of mediocrity since 1982. You know things are bad when a bunch of 70 odd year old men have been shoving the same two hour recycled Dragonforce/Dream Theater album down your throat every time they come only toning it down to talk about aeroplanes or make famine jokes.
Motorhead on the other hand were a class act. Far, far, far better records than Maiden ever made.
Not a big Priest guy but Turbo Lover is good.
Who did they sack? The pub band singer?! As for Motorhead, yeah ever song sounding the same is a right hoot.
Motorhead all the way. Sabbath for the riffs but it has to be Motorhead overall.
Acid Reign! They're only the band the big four could have been!
Maiden.
I'd put Sabbath slightly behind D.A.M., but ahead of Re-Animator.
Lawnmower deth
Maiden for me, followed by Priest and Sabbath.
Funny how people always say there would be no metal without Black Sabbath when that's utter bollox ...
- Iron Maiden credit Deep Purple / UFO / Prog bands as their influences
- Judas Priest credit Jimi Hendrix ("I wasn't really a Zeppelin or a Black Sabbath fan" as KK writes)
- Motorhead's Lemmy credits The Beatles for everything.
Bands used to talk about Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple, Jimi Hendrix and many more in the 80s. Then along came Ozzfest in the early 00s and Sharon told bands to talk about Sabbath in interviews. Sharon created this godfather tag. Brilliant marketing. I'm not discounting Sabbath's influence. But some of the best metal bands, English or otherwise, were inspired by others.
Truth. The basic Black Sabbath doom sound appeared first on Abbey Road in "I Want You (She's So Heavy)" a couple of years before Sabbath's debut. Every afficionado of metal's history should know that tune.
Obviously not in the same league as the greats and all but along with Carcass for later periods, I'd tag Sabbat as the greatest UK band of their era
Quote from: heyjoe on August 19, 2019, 01:41:54 PM
Bands used to talk about Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple, Jimi Hendrix and many more in the 80s. Then along came Ozzfest in the early 00s and Sharon told bands to talk about Sabbath in interviews. Sharon created this godfather tag. Brilliant marketing. I'm not discounting Sabbath's influence. But some of the best metal bands, English or otherwise, were inspired by others.
Some of us listened to Sabbath even before Sharon told us it was cool :laugh:
Only some of us though ;)
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on August 19, 2019, 01:56:37 PM
Truth. The basic Black Sabbath doom sound appeared first on Abbey Road in "I Want You (She's So Heavy)" a couple of years before Sabbath's debut. Every afficionado of metal's history should know that tune.
i agree. i also stuck on helter skelter just there on full whack. thats got to be one of the first proper metal songs.
Tough call between Maiden and Sabbath, both equally important for me. I voted for Maiden cos they've been with me forever, longer than Sabbath.
No interest in Priest or Motorhead so that was easy.
Paradise Lost and Carcass get very honorable mentions after those two above.
Bolt Thrower