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Title: The rap thread
Post by: leatherface on November 25, 2018, 11:01:04 PM
I am not sure how much of an interest people here have in rap music. I know there were a few from Metal Ireland (RIP) SO I thought I would start another thread for people  to post about what they like ( or dislike) in this genre.  What you are listening to now ? new or old?

Personally I grew up on a lot of 'old' stuff so.. lately it's been;

Wu Tang Clan: 36 Chambers (25th anniversary this year, still sounds tense, unhinged and great)

Onyx: All we Got iz Us (very, very dark and dismal rap music. Well recommended if you are into that kind of thing)

Company Flow: Funcrusher Plus ( one of the best underground hip hop albums, incredibly dense lyrically but worth the perseverence)

Cannibal Ox: The Cold Vein ( produced by EL P, Company Flow and Run the Jewels, this is a very overbearing álbum in its sounds and atmosphere but incredibly beautiful and heartfelt in parts)

Dr. Dooom: First Come, First Served ( Horrorcore courtesy of Kool Keith!)

Gore Elohim: Electric Lucifer (formally known as 'Goretex' from Non Phixion, and following on from his 2005 release 'The art of dying')


Also been meaning to get my hands on this new Beastie Boys book, has anyone looked through it?
Title: Re: The rap thread
Post by: Cryptic Stench on November 26, 2018, 05:07:13 AM
I'd be into a lot of the old school stuff myself, lot of what's out there now is horseshit.

You've mentioned Onyx, right up my street. Still listen to Geto Boys, Das Efx , KRS One etc

The early Ice Cube and Ice T records still do it for me too, easy to forget how edgy they were compared to later output.

In terms of recent acts I'd go for Saul Williams and Dalek, hardly current at this stage so any recommendations welcome.,
Title: Re: The rap thread
Post by: Juggz on November 26, 2018, 08:02:52 AM
Yeah, another one more in tune with the old school here. I picked up a Sugar Hill Records anthology recently, which is nice, and have been giving lots of time to the underrated Muse Sick-n-Hour Mess Age. It's just so funky.
Title: Re: The rap thread
Post by: Pentagrimes on November 26, 2018, 09:40:26 AM
New Edan & Homeboy Sandman is great. Been enjoying Crimeapple, Ankhlejon,Drrty Pharms and Westside Gunn recently.
Title: Re: The rap thread
Post by: leatherface on November 26, 2018, 06:22:13 PM
Quote from: Pentagrimes on November 26, 2018, 09:40:26 AM
New Edan & Homeboy Sandman is great. Been enjoying Crimeapple, Ankhlejon,Drrty Pharms and Westside Gunn recently.


Edan is amazing, really overlooked I think. His 'Beauty and the Beat' album from 2005 is a masterwork. Saw him live the two times he came to Dublin way back then. Did the whole 'Johnny the fox' turntable/rapping routine and all, brilliant.
Title: Re: The rap thread
Post by: Pentagrimes on November 26, 2018, 07:51:03 PM
Beauty and the Beat is stellar!Had no idea he played here. That and Cloudead were key in reuniting my interest in hip hop a while ago
Title: Re: The rap thread
Post by: leatherface on November 26, 2018, 11:09:37 PM
Quote from: Pentagrimes on November 26, 2018, 07:51:03 PM
Beauty and the Beat is stellar!Had no idea he played here.

He played first in the Chocolate Bar (formally the Red Box) with Dagha and then the Tivoli, 2005-2006. Both times he basically did the same set (Beauty and the Beat) with some freestyle turntable/rap action, both gigs fairly packed I remember for such an 'underground ' hip hop act. Met him briefly after the Tivoli show and he seemed like a nice bloke. Just small talk. On a side note I met Flavor Flav after a Public Enemy concert once and he was cool until all these girls came over to him, so my brief and pathetic interview with him was over very quickly. Fair enough.
Title: Re: The rap thread
Post by: Black Shepherd Carnage on November 27, 2018, 07:33:04 PM
Have Versatile been watching Behemoth videos?

https://www.youtube.com/embed/BTELysDw4Gs
Title: Re: The rap thread
Post by: Pentagrimes on November 28, 2018, 09:42:48 AM
New/recent ep thing from Black Thought just came to my attention ("Streams of Thought Pt. 2"). Real good.
Title: Re: The rap thread
Post by: Giggles on November 30, 2018, 11:17:58 PM
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on November 27, 2018, 07:33:04 PM
Have Versatile been watching Behemoth videos?

https://www.youtube.com/embed/BTELysDw4Gs

That's fairly different from their other videos alright! Some production though.

I don't know much about Irish hip hop, but this tune from This Side Up is pretty cool https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E03tbipoDkE
Title: Re: The rap thread
Post by: Pentagrimes on December 06, 2018, 10:50:17 AM
If we're talking about Irish stuff gonna throw in a quick plug for Nealo - aka Nelly who used to sing for the hardcore band Frustration. Fairly mellow stuff, might be of interest to some here
https://soundcloud.com/user-74559341
Title: Re: The rap thread
Post by: StandupPaul on December 11, 2018, 06:06:38 PM
Been listening to a fair bit of Earl Sweatshirt recently. I'd be mostly into older hip hop, but he's one of the new lot of artists that is doing it for me.
Title: Re: The rap thread
Post by: leatherface on December 12, 2018, 12:29:10 AM
Edan and Homeboy Sandman playing the Sugar Club, February 2019, don't miss out, Edan puts on a great show. I believe RA the Rugged Man plays Dublin this week, amazing rapper, one of the best.
Title: Re: The rap thread
Post by: leatherface on December 12, 2018, 12:47:23 AM
Quasimoto: The Unseen (1999?/2000?)

This álbum remains one of my favourite 'go to' rap albums, as silly and bizarre as it is, never boring though.

Group Home: Livin Proof (1995)

DJ Premier production, hard as nails.

Title: Re: The rap thread
Post by: Pentagrimes on September 06, 2019, 08:54:05 AM
Bumping this in honor of the return of Mr. Daniel Brown Esquire. Love this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=52&v=1okqvhq7ZaI

My mate Andrew who some might know from a bunch of heavier bands he's been in over the years (Intensive Care currently, Column of Heaven/Endless Blockade/Shank before that) has turned his hand to producing under the name Wolfagram and has a ton of shit in the works - here's a tune he just put out during the summer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxkMuly49Lg

Been listening to a bunch of Westside Gunn, The Opioid Era and Czarface of late.

Oh, and SONS PHONETIC - Waterford hiphop no less. Up the Deise.
https://sonsphonetic.bandcamp.com/
Title: Re: The rap thread
Post by: leatherface on September 06, 2019, 09:48:36 AM
Speaking of Westside Gunn, I enjoy what I've heard but christ does he have an extensive discography already this early into his career, most of which isn't even on sale as hardcopy. I find that interesting but also a little frustrating, would like to have some physical copies but I guess I'm just showing my age.
Title: Re: The rap thread
Post by: Pentagrimes on September 06, 2019, 10:11:57 AM
Quote from: leatherface on September 06, 2019, 09:48:36 AM
Speaking of Westside Gunn, I enjoy what I've heard but christ does he have an extensive discography already this early into his career, most of which isn't even on sale as hardcopy. I find that interesting but also a little frustrating, would like to have some physical copies but I guess I'm just showing my age.

Ah yeah, I've only heard the half of it, and I haven't fully dived into the whole Griselda family as extensively as I should. The MF Doom collab is my favourite though.
Title: Re: The rap thread
Post by: leatherface on September 07, 2019, 01:30:30 AM
Quote from: Pentagrimes on September 06, 2019, 10:11:57 AM
Quote from: leatherface on September 06, 2019, 09:48:36 AM
Speaking of Westside Gunn, I enjoy what I've heard but christ does he have an extensive discography already this early into his career, most of which isn't even on sale as hardcopy. I find that interesting but also a little frustrating, would like to have some physical copies but I guess I'm just showing my age.

Ah yeah, I've only heard the half of it, and I haven't fully dived into the whole Griselda family as extensively as I should. The MF Doom collab is my favourite though.

Shamefully (as a huge MF Doom fan) I have only heard that collab recently and it's fantastic, don't think it was Doom on production though, great nonetheless.
Title: Re: The rap thread
Post by: Yung Led Zeppelin on September 07, 2019, 03:05:31 PM
M E M P H I S

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBrxROap_n8
Title: Re: The rap thread
Post by: Giggles on April 20, 2021, 07:16:07 PM
Almost 10 years since this banger was uploaded. Nugget - Irish Tune \m/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQuSTH9CTT0
Title: Re: The rap thread
Post by: Giggles on April 20, 2021, 07:25:37 PM
And another banger from the Class A'z. Nice flow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BOBzgKEppA
Title: Re: The rap thread
Post by: open face surgery on April 20, 2021, 09:27:35 PM
This is the best I've heard in the last while:

https://billywoods.bandcamp.com/album/hiding-places
Title: Re: The rap thread
Post by: Nazgûl on April 20, 2021, 11:02:42 PM
Quote from: open face surgery on April 20, 2021, 09:27:35 PM
This is the best I've heard in the last while:

https://billywoods.bandcamp.com/album/hiding-places

Same man. Deadly album and only one I've copped on to in recent months .
Title: Re: The rap thread
Post by: StoutAndAle on April 27, 2021, 11:21:45 AM
Quote from: Nazgûl on April 20, 2021, 11:02:42 PM
Quote from: open face surgery on April 20, 2021, 09:27:35 PM
This is the best I've heard in the last while:

https://billywoods.bandcamp.com/album/hiding-places

Same man. Deadly album and only one I've copped on to in recent months .

Great recommendation. Never heard of this guy before. Listened to it a blast of times since last Friday.

Brilliant shout., lads.
Title: Re: The rap thread
Post by: Yung Led Zeppelin on April 27, 2021, 11:52:41 AM
The collab album with Moor Mother is fucking unreal too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ielDt6GH8b4
Title: Re: The rap thread
Post by: StoutAndAle on April 27, 2021, 12:08:40 PM
Quote from: Yung Led Zeppelin on April 27, 2021, 11:52:41 AM
The collab album with Moor Mother is fucking unreal too



Deadly. Sound.
Title: Re: The rap thread
Post by: Nazgûl on April 27, 2021, 08:32:17 PM
You're in luck so Stout, the guy is ridiculously prolific. He has another group called Armand Hammer who've put out two full lengths in the last year and both have been well received I believe. Plenty of stuff to dig into.
Title: Re: The rap thread
Post by: open face surgery on April 27, 2021, 11:24:22 PM
On the flip side, Kenny Segal also did a album with the guy from Future Islands. One of the lads is well into it but I can't get beyond it being your man so haven't giving it much time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShjYjfchrVM
Title: Re: The rap thread
Post by: Black Shepherd Carnage on April 28, 2021, 04:26:01 PM
Quote from: Yung Led Zeppelin on April 27, 2021, 11:52:41 AM
The collab album with Moor Mother is fucking unreal too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ielDt6GH8b4

Madame Bovary and Gustave Flaubert references somewhat rare in US rap!
Title: Re: The rap thread
Post by: mickO))) on June 08, 2023, 06:32:55 PM
Anybody going to see the Clan tomorrow?
Title: Re: The rap thread
Post by: mickO))) on June 09, 2023, 01:28:39 PM
Cypress Hill just announced for Dublin in December.
Title: Re: The rap thread
Post by: open face surgery on June 09, 2023, 02:06:44 PM
Given we've been on about them, new Billy Woods and Kenny Segal album. Have yet to get rightly stuck in but sounds good.

After watching the new Atmosphere "What's in my bag?" this morning:

De La Soul - 3 Feet High and Rising
Murs X The Grouch – Thees Handz
Title: Re: The rap thread
Post by: open face surgery on June 09, 2023, 02:08:13 PM
Quote from: mickO))) on June 08, 2023, 06:32:55 PMAnybody going to see the Clan tomorrow?

Forgot about it and annoyingly arranged to jam which has to happen.
Title: Re: The rap thread
Post by: open face surgery on June 10, 2023, 12:43:01 PM
How was it? Saw that Wu Tang played the after party in the Workman's. Goddamn that would've been perfect.
Title: Re: The rap thread
Post by: mickO))) on June 10, 2023, 04:25:35 PM
It was good but I wouldn't say great. They were much better the previous time I saw them. They did the same thing last night that the prodigy always do just playing bits and pieces of songs instead of the full things which I hate. They played about 25 songs but I would have much preferred a set of 12 full songs. They also played some of the members solo songs which I don't get as they have plenty of Wu tang material to pick from.

The setup for the gig was weird as well. Wu tang did 10 songs then Nas came on and did 40mins then wu tang again after that and nas a second time then wu tang closed the show. The sound wasn't great either which surprised me because I would have guessed sound for a show like this would be a lot easier to do then say a metal show.

Everyone inside was smoking joints which I haven't seen at a Dublin gig before. I would have brought weed with me if I had of known.
Title: Re: The rap thread
Post by: mickO))) on June 10, 2023, 04:27:47 PM
Quote from: open face surgery on June 10, 2023, 12:43:01 PMSaw that Wu Tang played the after party in the Workman's. Goddamn that would've been perfect.

What was that some special invite only thing or could anyone have just went along not knowing they would show up?
Title: Re: The rap thread
Post by: pete on June 10, 2023, 09:35:55 PM
Quote from: mickO))) on June 10, 2023, 04:27:47 PM
Quote from: open face surgery on June 10, 2023, 12:43:01 PMSaw that Wu Tang played the after party in the Workman's. Goddamn that would've been perfect.

What was that some special invite only thing or could anyone have just went along not knowing they would show up?

It was a ticketed after party advertised as Inspectah Deck playing. Think it was Raekwon who also turned up.
Title: Re: The rap thread
Post by: DISRUPTER on June 12, 2023, 09:09:37 AM
Ice Cube, Cypress Hill, & the Game are playing thr point in December
Title: Re: The rap thread
Post by: mickO))) on June 12, 2023, 01:01:18 PM
Quote from: pete on June 10, 2023, 09:35:55 PM
Quote from: mickO))) on June 10, 2023, 04:27:47 PM
Quote from: open face surgery on June 10, 2023, 12:43:01 PMSaw that Wu Tang played the after party in the Workman's. Goddamn that would've been perfect.

What was that some special invite only thing or could anyone have just went along not knowing they would show up?

It was a ticketed after party advertised as Inspectah Deck playing. Think it was Raekwon who also turned up.

Just saw it in the workman's site tickets were only 20 odd euro as well would definitely have went if I'd know
Title: Re: The rap thread
Post by: mickO))) on June 12, 2023, 01:03:58 PM
Quote from: DISRUPTER on June 12, 2023, 09:09:37 AMIce Cube, Cypress Hill, & the Game are playing thr point in December


Yeah I posted about it on the previous page. No interest in the game and only early 90's ice cube is good but I can't wait to see Cypress. I refused to give that Eminem gimp my money back in 03 when Cypress supported him so have never seen them before as they haven't played here since and other than that show I think the only other time they played here was that festival in Tipperary in the mid 90's
Title: Re: The rap thread
Post by: mickO))) on May 08, 2024, 02:40:15 PM
Looks like last years cancelled Onyx show has finally been rescheduled. They are playing on August the 16th in Dublin and Belfast on the 17th. Playing the Grand Social this time which is much better because the show last year was only going to start at 11pm making it a nightmare to get home from after if you don't live in Dublin.

Saw them twice before in Canada and they were great both times. Last years show was going to be the 20th anniversary tour for Bacdafucup so I hope this one will be the same.
Title: Re: The rap thread
Post by: pete on August 09, 2024, 10:06:16 PM
With Earl touring soon, reminded me how much I love this album.

Title: Re: The rap thread
Post by: Pentagrimes on August 12, 2024, 10:57:02 AM
Absolutely  obsessed with the ShrapKnel album
Title: Re: The rap thread
Post by: open face surgery on August 24, 2024, 04:51:52 PM
Threw it on this morning. Great shout. Deadly stuff.
Title: Re: The rap thread
Post by: Giggles on September 07, 2024, 12:03:26 AM

LL Cool J and Eminem, pretty cool.
Title: Re: The rap thread
Post by: Maggot Colony on October 17, 2024, 12:13:50 PM
Just heard that Ka died. One of the greatest rappers ever. RIP

NP The Thief Next To Jesus.

Title: Re: The rap thread
Post by: mickO))) on November 03, 2024, 06:43:32 PM
Anyone going to GZA in the music centre tonight? He's doing liquid swords in full.
Title: Re: The rap thread
Post by: mickO))) on November 14, 2024, 12:26:20 PM
Anybody go to Nas last night? It was the 30th anniversary tour for Illmatic. Good show but he did the very same irritating thing that the Clan always do. Playing bits and pieces of songs instead of the full thing. The tour was advertised as Illmatic in full. The original album with no bonus tracks clocks in at just under 40min and he got through it in just over 30mins which was pretty annoying.

He was doing Life's a Bitch then just after the first chorus he starts into the world is yours. I will never understand this because I can't imagine any fan of any artist would want this over playing the original songs in full. The setlist was about 25 songs I would have much preferred if he did 12 - 13 full songs. But other than that a very enjoyable night.

GZA 2 weeks ago did every lyric and note from liquid swords which is the way it should be done. He had a full band playing with him who really added a lot to the show.

It was good to see Nas have a live drummer on stage too. I got the feeling he wasn't full sure of where he was because I didn't hear him say Dublin or Ireland until he was walking off stage, even in the middle of the set he stopped to say how much he loved this place and could live here but never once said Ireland or Dublin  :laugh:
Title: Re: The rap thread
Post by: open face surgery on November 14, 2024, 01:29:43 PM
I enjoyed hearing Illmatic even if it was to an editing extent but in general I'd prefer to just listen to the album when it comes to hip hop gigs.

He had 3 auto ques on stage with Dublin, Ireland at the top at all times between songs so I did think that whole "I'd live here bit..." odd.
Title: Re: The rap thread
Post by: mickO))) on November 14, 2024, 02:12:57 PM
The live here bit must be just something he is saying at every show on the tour. I really enjoyed the partial Mobb Deep cover he did last night.

Hopefully he comes back with an It Was Written 30th anniversary show in 2 years.
Title: Re: The rap thread
Post by: open face surgery on November 14, 2024, 07:37:00 PM
The crowd seemed to do most of the Mobb Deep track.
Title: Re: The rap thread
Post by: StoutAndAle on August 05, 2025, 11:47:05 AM
This Infinity Knives and Brian Ennals record is absolutely class.

https://infinityknives666.bandcamp.com/album/a-city-drowned-in-gods-black-tears

For fans of Billy Woods etc.

Playing Cork soon - no doubt that they're in other venues around the country too.

https://libcal.ucc.ie/event/4398684
Title: Re: The rap thread
Post by: leatherface on September 16, 2025, 10:14:55 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ex3XuJavaBI&list=RDEx3XuJavaBI&start_radio=1
Title: Re: The rap thread
Post by: mickO))) on September 17, 2025, 12:56:29 AM
Quote from: leatherface on September 16, 2025, 10:14:55 PMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ex3XuJavaBI&list=RDEx3XuJavaBI&start_radio=1

Without a doubt the best to ever do it. He played the Button Factory back in May and it was amazing. Got to meet him after it. Both him and his wife couldn't have been any nicer.
Title: Re: The rap thread
Post by: Sworntothecans on September 17, 2025, 01:18:24 PM
Quote from: leatherface on September 16, 2025, 10:14:55 PMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ex3XuJavaBI&list=RDEx3XuJavaBI&start_radio=1

Absolute choon!
Title: Re: The rap thread
Post by: leatherface on September 18, 2025, 04:27:48 PM
Quote from: mickO))) on September 17, 2025, 12:56:29 AM
Quote from: leatherface on September 16, 2025, 10:14:55 PMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ex3XuJavaBI&list=RDEx3XuJavaBI&start_radio=1

Without a doubt the best to ever do it. He played the Button Factory back in May and it was amazing. Got to meet him after it. Both him and his wife couldn't have been any nicer.

Ah nice one. He was here in Granada recently but could not go for work reasons, was raging. Recent work not all that impressive though,  anything from BDP days up to his solo career   
reaching 1997 is essential.
Title: Re: The rap thread
Post by: mickO))) on September 20, 2025, 01:19:44 PM
Quote from: leatherface on September 18, 2025, 04:27:48 PM
Quote from: mickO))) on September 17, 2025, 12:56:29 AM
Quote from: leatherface on September 16, 2025, 10:14:55 PMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ex3XuJavaBI&list=RDEx3XuJavaBI&start_radio=1

Without a doubt the best to ever do it. He played the Button Factory back in May and it was amazing. Got to meet him after it. Both him and his wife couldn't have been any nicer.

Ah nice one. He was here in Granada recently but could not go for work reasons, was raging. Recent work not all that impressive though,  anything from BDP days up to his solo career 
reaching 1997 is essential.

Yeah he did a whole 2 and a half month Europe tour. The new album he released just before the tour is good. I enjoyed the few previous ones as well. The latest one was just a youtube upload I haven't seen any physical release for it yet. Yes up to and including I got next is the best stuff for sure.
Title: Re: The rap thread
Post by: mickO))) on December 03, 2025, 08:06:07 PM
Quote from: leatherface on September 18, 2025, 04:27:48 PMAh nice one. He was here in Granada recently but could not go for work reasons, was raging.

KRS-One is coming back to Spain in April Burgos, Barcelona and Madrid announced so far.