Wondering what the policy or planned approach will be for moderating conversation here to keep things on track and not descending into crap? I think it's important for the Irish scene to have a place to discuss metal, promote up and coming bands and announce gigs and releases without every thread descending into fights or nonsense.
Agreed, things seem to be going ok so far - and it does appear for the minute that some of the more controversial characters may have not bothered or are taking a more sensible approach this time round. I have noticed the number of members swelled yesterday so Moderation will be inevitable I'd appoint one or two right away!
This is something I'm aware of. For now I'm kinda rolling with the "don't be a dick" rule, but I imagine it'll be something which will require more attention as the site grows. I'll be looking for moderators, but first I need to figure out which of you wee rapscallions I can trust!
Beaten to it!
I was actually planning on setting up something like this through the Irish Metal Archive, as well.
Might still do it yet... if only to have an active gig listing.
Logging gigs is an absolute pain in the hole!!! :o Wrecks me bap, so it does.
IMA is a handy site, so I'd be happy to partner up with you in some way, or at least provide a linkback to the site.
I'm currently working on a way to easily add gig listings without it being so tedious. There's functioning one for now, but I'm going to replace it with something more useful
https://metalwarfare.com/gigs/
Not really sure how that will work, but we can definitely try and work something out, if you're game.
I agree with the stopping everything descending into shit but there is a fine line before it gets very sterile and fully pc all of the time. The ignore button should stop most users getting their knickers in a twist.
Also people need to learn to stop being offended by everything. Did i miss something sudden or did being offended slowly become an actual good feeling while i wasn't looking?
I was surprised to see the amount of comments around after MI disappeared saying they were lurkers who rarely or never posted but still went to the forum every day. Hopefully any cuntishness can be nipped in the bud to encourage those people to participate here. I think there was a swift appreciation of just how significant MI was once it vanished. With luck, that'll spur people into contributing. A forum isn't worth a fuck if people are scared away and there is no new content.
It is not really a matter of not hurting people's feelings. It's about maintaining a high standard of discussion. Naturally that should include a bit of maggot acting but it's important to make sure the balance lies in favour of quality chat.
Where can I send my CV?
Quote from: Eoin McLove on November 23, 2018, 11:57:06 AM
It is not really a matter of not hurting people's feelings. It's about maintaining a high standard of discussion. Naturally that should include a bit of maggot acting but it's important to make sure the balance lies in favour of quality chat.
Yeah that's pretty much it right there
Anybody have issues with the current state of the forum?
For the love of god can we get some puns going please? The withdrawal symptoms are killing me.
What used to irk me sometimes was when some new kid who'd just discovered their first bands got ran off the forum. They post about some crappy new band that nobody on here likes. Rather than being ignored they were berated for two or three pages. As was mentioned in another thread the future of Irish metal is with the younger kids now.
Quote from: hellfire on November 27, 2018, 12:28:14 AM
What used to irk me sometimes was when some new kid who'd just discovered their first bands got ran off the forum. They post about some crappy new band that nobody on here likes. Rather than being ignored they were berated for two or three pages. As was mentioned in another thread the future of Irish metal is with the younger kids now.
The shite some got wasn't on, but if their threads are going to be ignored would they stick around to engage with the site either?
QuoteWhat used to irk me sometimes was when some new kid who'd just discovered their first bands got ran off the forum
That is kind of true.
But I found the opposite was more true to form where a youngster would come on with a two track sampler recorded in the bedroom or worse still the vague threat of recording some music and quite rightly be critiqued, who would then throw the toys out of the pram and spout something along the lines of "No wonder nobody comes here" etc.
I did find on the whole that if a young band posted a track you'd get good critique from people who are actually doing it. The Altus thing was a classic case. Guys that were expereinced in the game gave three points of critique
- No Identity
- Name very similar to an existing band
- Vocals Appalling
But Mike was a classic example of knowing it all already. Fair enough but why come on and ask? I really thought the forum was invaluable for getting advice from the best of the scene.
Where is Leather Mike, as a matter of interest? Come back, Micháel!
He's busy defending the vocals on the first ep!
Quote from: Cryptic Stench on November 27, 2018, 12:51:44 PM
QuoteWhat used to irk me sometimes was when some new kid who'd just discovered their first bands got ran off the forum
That is kind of true.
But I found the opposite was more true to form where a youngster would come on with a two track sampler recorded in the bedroom or worse still the vague threat of recording some music and quite rightly be critiqued, who would then throw the toys out of the pram and spout something along the lines of "No wonder nobody comes here" etc.
I did find on the whole that if a young band posted a track you'd get good critique from people who are actually doing it. The Altus thing was a classic case. Guys that were expereinced in the game gave three points of critique
- No Identity
- Name very similar to an existing band
- Vocals Appalling
But Mike was a classic example of knowing it all already. Fair enough but why come on and ask? I really thought the forum was invaluable for getting advice from the best of the scene.
I was thinking more along the lines of "I just heard my first death metal band and want to show everyone how ace they are". Of course if you put something up for critique then people should respond accordingly.
I love this thread.
Its like the founding of a new state and we're coming together to write the constitution.
To be honest, I think we should let it run like the wild west for a while.
From what i recall on MI, the moderation was fairly light and seemed very fair.
There was double posts for gigs and threads moved to appropriate forums, that seemed to be the height of it.
Unless im missing something else?
Every now and again he gave me a slap on the wrist for telling someone they were a c**t.
There was the occasional assault on the board. Anyone remember the guy that posted "me wanna banana" in every single thread?
Some lad also private messaged Nixer one time with all sorts of mad threats. Nixer posted screen grabs but the two of them ended up with a ban! :)
That's right Stenchy that was Rimm on his second account and then the Earl banned me.
As for forum moderation we should learn from the mistakes of the past. The old forum was being run like a Magdalene laundry for quite some time. There is a far better vibe on here.
The trolling type shite was stupid on mi. Just inane comments left on so many posts.
If we're going to 'learn from the mistakes of the past' Nixer you were a prime example of trolling, not saying you're alone there but it got old fast. That crap doesn't help any forum.
What was worst was that every one would reply to them giving them exactly what they wanted. If you wanna get rid of troll posters without banning them, just don't respond. Idiots sending threatening messages are just as thick.
Then there were the odd few who were just condescending cunts full stop. . bsc.
Most forums die off from lack of use / just becoming shit storms of online fighting/arguing much like a YouTube comments section. The same thing will happen here if people are logging in to the same shit show.
If people can act like reasonable adults then you might get a decent enough community and a life span with the forum.
Think it's going ok so far, I found some of the trolling to be funny but it got way out of hand I agree with you there.
The condescending stuff bugged me more but everyone seems to be more civilised for the minute, long may it continue, some good discussions going already.
Yeah, the threads seem to be moving an awful lot quicker than they did on MI towards the end. Long may that last. Perhaps it's just the novelty of it being new? Time will tell I guess.
It had slowed to a crawl on MI, no doubt about it. Another hangover / acting the maggot type thread would be class, every Irish male bar those in the seminary or with alcohol intolerance has a collection of heinous stories numbering in the dozens for your fair weather drinker to hundreds from the more seasoned veteran.
I'd like to see one of those drinking stories threads as well I'll have to start one off if nobody else does.
The knot in evolutions design was smashing as well but I was always a lurker on that one so..
Start a new thread yourself if you've got a story to share!