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Title: New EXODUS track
Post by: Giggles on September 15, 2021, 09:30:27 PM
The Beatings Will Continue (Until Morale Improves)

I've only noticed that they released this track a couple of weeks ago. New album Persona Non Grata out in November.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJlXDRNOEdo

Sounds like something off of Tempo of the Damned, which is fine by me cos that album is a fucking banger! Yes please.
Title: Re: New EXODUS track
Post by: Giggles on September 18, 2021, 12:33:56 PM
New track, "clickbait":

https://youtu.be/A0TuqQo_wGI

I'm loving Zetro's vocals. Not bad for 57 hi!
Title: Re: New EXODUS track
Post by: ScallionEater on September 19, 2021, 12:14:00 AM
Not sure about the vocals, sounds like he's sitting on the jacks try to squeeze out a shit. As for 57 the lyrics are bloody childish.
Title: Re: New EXODUS track
Post by: Carnage on September 19, 2021, 12:30:32 AM
Zetro's a shit singer. They've always had terrible vocals, Dukes was the least shit but still poor. A band that's always been held back by their vocals.
Title: Re: New EXODUS track
Post by: Black Shepherd Carnage on September 19, 2021, 12:41:18 AM
Yeah, with you on that one Carnage. Never clicked with Exodus for that reason. Was it Exodus did some shitty cartoon video for their last album? Or was that Obituary?
Title: Re: New EXODUS track
Post by: Carnage on September 19, 2021, 01:13:56 AM
Obituary, and it was awful.

I'm absolutely in the minority for this, but I can't listen to Bonded By Blood, the vocals are fucking shit. The rerecorded version with Dukes is the only version I'll listen to.
Title: Re: New EXODUS track
Post by: Giggles on September 20, 2021, 02:05:29 PM
Quote from: Carnage on September 19, 2021, 12:30:32 AM
Zetro's a shit singer. They've always had terrible vocals, Dukes was the least shit but still poor. A band that's always been held back by their vocals.

I disagree. I don't have any problems with any of the vocals in Exodus, Zetro's being my favourite.
Title: Re: New EXODUS track
Post by: Trev on September 20, 2021, 03:53:55 PM
Those tracks are decent enough, nothing out of the ordinary but reckon they'd sound great live
Title: Re: New EXODUS track
Post by: leatherface on September 20, 2021, 09:49:07 PM
Quote from: Carnage on September 19, 2021, 01:13:56 AM
Obituary, and it was awful.

I'm absolutely in the minority for this, but I can't listen to Bonded By Blood, the vocals are fucking shit. The rerecorded version with Dukes is the only version I'll listen to.

'Bonded By Blood' was Paul Baloff on vocals wasn't it? Different voice entirely and a bit better, slightly unhinged but better.
Title: Re: New EXODUS track
Post by: Carnage on September 20, 2021, 09:57:02 PM
Baloff, yeah. Absolutely unlistenable caterwauling.
Title: Re: New EXODUS track
Post by: jobrok1 on September 21, 2021, 11:22:52 AM
Quote from: Carnage on September 20, 2021, 09:57:02 PM
Baloff, yeah. Absolutely unlistenable caterwauling.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

(https://i.imgflip.com/5npw8a.jpg)
Title: Re: New EXODUS track
Post by: Giggles on September 21, 2021, 12:33:48 PM
Wimps  :abbath:
Title: Re: New EXODUS track
Post by: jobrok1 on September 21, 2021, 02:13:29 PM
For the record...
I've no issues with any of their vocalists!
I was just having a chuckle of Carnage's posts.
Title: Re: New EXODUS track
Post by: Mower Liberation Front on September 21, 2021, 08:02:58 PM
Quote from: Carnage on September 20, 2021, 09:57:02 PM
Baloff, yeah. Absolutely unlistenable caterwauling.

Bizarre thing to say, but I'd expect it from those strange people who hate Sean Killian's vocals. :laugh:
Title: Re: New EXODUS track
Post by: Carnage on September 21, 2021, 08:39:58 PM
Those blessed with functioning hearing, you mean?  ;)
Title: Re: New EXODUS track
Post by: Carnage on January 15, 2025, 05:48:06 PM
Souza's out and Dukes is back in, a step in the right direction.
Title: Re: New EXODUS track
Post by: Sworntothecans on January 15, 2025, 06:08:53 PM
Dukes is a bit of a twat, but he's a better fit for them , Zetro's performance in the last one was pretty meh. 
Exhibit A&B are absolutely savage records.
Title: Re: New EXODUS track
Post by: jobrok1 on January 15, 2025, 06:50:21 PM
SHKM (stupid fucking title) is a solid banger too, in my opinion.
Title: Re: New EXODUS track
Post by: The Great Cull on January 15, 2025, 06:55:59 PM
What's the bets that they can't afford big Chief Chuck Billy for management anymore and as soon as he's out the door, Zetro followed.
Title: Re: New EXODUS track
Post by: Trev on January 15, 2025, 07:15:56 PM
Thought the Dukes albums were much better than the last few with Zetro, so should be interesting to see how this goes.

They were both much better than Baloff though, but at least there's no chance of him rejoining anytime soon
Title: Re: New EXODUS track
Post by: Ducky on January 15, 2025, 07:29:01 PM
Quote from: Trev on January 15, 2025, 07:15:56 PMThought the Dukes albums were much better than the last few with Zetro, so should be interesting to see how this goes.

They were both much better than Baloff though, but at least there's no chance of him rejoining anytime soon

I put Baloff right at the top of "shit vocalists that ruined a banging record" along with Sean Killian. Mustaine may as well be King Diamond compared to those two twats.

Never really listened to the Dukes' era stuff, but dig Zetro on Tempo.
Title: Re: New EXODUS track
Post by: Sworntothecans on January 15, 2025, 07:36:42 PM
Quote from: jobrok1 on January 15, 2025, 06:50:21 PMSHKM (stupid fucking title) is a solid banger too, in my opinion.

It's not too bad, production does have that mid 2000s blandness. Sneap taking over the desk (although he did mix SHKM),did wonders for them on the next two. Plus Hunting was back on drums.
 
Title: Re: New EXODUS track
Post by: Carnage on January 15, 2025, 08:40:20 PM
Quote from: Ducky on January 15, 2025, 07:29:01 PM
Quote from: Trev on January 15, 2025, 07:15:56 PMThought the Dukes albums were much better than the last few with Zetro, so should be interesting to see how this goes.

They were both much better than Baloff though, but at least there's no chance of him rejoining anytime soon

I put Baloff right at the top of "shit vocalists that ruined a banging record" along with Sean Killian. Mustaine may as well be King Diamond compared to those two twats.

Never really listened to the Dukes' era stuff, but dig Zetro on Tempo.

Give Let There Be Blood a listen, Dukes singing the Bonded By Blood tracks. Top notch.
Title: Re: New EXODUS track
Post by: Sworntothecans on January 16, 2025, 12:27:55 AM
The remake album is pretty much forgetful and a cash grab as they got fucked on the original contract.
It's the unhinged "off his tits on biker meth and cheap booze (like most of the SF thrash crowd)", that makes the original work.

Title: Re: New EXODUS track
Post by: ldj on January 16, 2025, 12:55:04 AM
The original Bonded by Blood is probably the only essential Exodus imo, great tracks scattered around their body of work but I don't think they ever did anything as great as that over a full length.
Title: Re: New EXODUS track
Post by: Eoin McLove on January 16, 2025, 12:57:11 AM
Bonded is the only one I have. Not arsed checking out any more as generally speaking thrash isn't my bag, but I have no complaints with Bonded. Vocals are cool.
Title: Re: New EXODUS track
Post by: Pagan Saviour on January 16, 2025, 07:37:23 AM
Exodus are dogshit. I get Bonded's importance but they pedal the type of  whacky braindead thrash I generally despise. It's laughable any talk of them being in the same league as Metallica Megadeth Slayer etc etc. They couldn't keep it together for five minutes and Bonded aside they've delivered very little of worth. They were "ok" with Dukes, Tough Man metal. seen them live with him a couple of times and it bordered between a bit of craic and toe curling cringe.

They hated Souza, obviously Billy's idea and now they've gone back to the lad they fucked out over a decade ago. If only the Voodoo Lounge was still open...
Title: Re: New EXODUS track
Post by: Petardo on January 16, 2025, 07:59:17 AM
Aside from Bonded By Blood they're a band that I couldn't get into.
Musically it's all there but Zetro sounds like a disgruntled chipmunk.
Title: Re: New EXODUS track
Post by: KingHostile on January 16, 2025, 08:20:30 AM
Persona Non Grata - as an album sounds epic but I don't think they ever achieved the sound live.

Seen them with Dukes on the Exhibit A tour here in Dublin, awesome gig, stage diving was manic that night! Historic!

Having seen them twice with Souza, yeah good but its like they just never connect live. Dukes isn't there for the money or because he was in a band during the 80s (ego) I thought he was really into it and loved the music. His madness was infectious!
Title: Re: New EXODUS track
Post by: Anvil on January 16, 2025, 10:32:30 AM
Bonded is a classic.  Essential thrash album for me. The rest is very hit or miss but...   

Strangely one I really liked at the time was Tempo of the Damned. Must stick it on today to see how well it has aged as if has been a long time since I listened to it.   
Title: Re: New EXODUS track
Post by: Pagan Saviour on January 16, 2025, 10:34:16 AM
Actually stuck that on recently as people lost their shit over it when it was released. It's grand, nothing more.
Title: Re: New EXODUS track
Post by: keeper of kalessin on January 16, 2025, 11:36:31 AM
I think first 3 albums are great, love pleasures of the flesh and fabulous disaster. After that I really rate Tempo of the damned and then not bothered about any of the rob duke stuff.
Title: Re: New EXODUS track
Post by: Anvil on January 16, 2025, 12:35:09 PM
Quote from: Pagan Saviour on January 16, 2025, 10:34:16 AMActually stuck that on recently as people lost their shit over it when it was released. It's grand, nothing more.

Not sure the second half of the album really holds up for me now.  But the first 4 songs and some of the solos later in the album are still great. 
Title: Re: New EXODUS track
Post by: Bürggermeister on January 16, 2025, 02:02:01 PM
Exodus are grand, I like Fabulous Disaster a lot, at least the songs they wrote, and any of the first four are always a decent listen without ever being amazing. Force of Habit is a mess but I am probably a bit sentimentally attached to it, I enjoy it when I put it on. I listened to Tempo recently and it hasn't stood up too well, it's ok but nothing more. The rest... well nobody would be sad of they never played any songs from them at a gig, but I suppose you could apply that almost entirely to the last 20 years output of any 80's band.

They're about level with Testament, good and solid tier 2 schtuff.
Title: Re: New EXODUS track
Post by: Ducky on January 16, 2025, 02:16:16 PM
I think Tom Hunting's drumming elevated these lads a bit for me. Think he's genuinely underrated.
Title: Re: New EXODUS track
Post by: Giggles on January 16, 2025, 02:53:44 PM
I love Exodus and yeah, Tom Hunting is a beast of a drummer.

I think I've seen them live 8 times. Zetro is my favourite Exodus vocalist (and one of my favourite metal vocalists in general), but I think Dukes has a much better stage presence. That gig they played in the Village in 2010 was nuts.

I like the new recording of Bonded By Blood, but I prefer the charm of the original.

Tempo of the Damned is my favourite album and still gets regular listens. Took me a while to get into the Atrocities... but there is some great stuff on those albums.

Lee Altus has some tasteful lead playing and Gary Holt is just a beast in general.

I'm pretty sure I've posted this video before on here, but I've listened to this Zetro interview with Rob Dukes. Some might be surprised that he's actually a pretty quiet guy and seems fairly humble.
If I'm remembering correctly, he explains that his 'tough man' stage persona came from his first ever vocal gig, which happened to be for Exodus, in front of a crowd of a couple of thousand people and he was shitting himself.
I'm pretty sure he says that he actually shat himself on stage one time too  :laugh:

Title: Re: New EXODUS track
Post by: Carnage on January 16, 2025, 03:18:13 PM
War Is My Shepherd is a cracker.
Title: Re: New EXODUS track
Post by: Pagan Saviour on February 18, 2025, 08:36:59 AM
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Title: Re: New EXODUS track
Post by: Sworntothecans on February 18, 2025, 12:09:06 PM
Tom Hunting looking like Jay from Mallrats granddad 😂
Title: Re: New EXODUS track
Post by: Pagan Saviour on February 18, 2025, 12:58:06 PM
Look like a bunch of sad auld'fellas that found their old instruments and band stuff in the garage.

Though Holt has done alright for a crackhead.
Title: Re: New EXODUS track
Post by: Trev on February 18, 2025, 01:11:17 PM
Hunting isn't looking too bad for an auld lad with no stomach
Title: Re: New EXODUS track
Post by: Pagan Saviour on April 27, 2025, 07:05:05 PM
 :laugh:

Steve touring as "Zetrodus"

https://blabbermouth.net/news/former-exodus-singer-steve-zetro-souza-to-celebrate-20th-anniversary-of-tempo-of-the-damned-on-latin-american-tour
Title: Re: New EXODUS track
Post by: Bürggermeister on April 27, 2025, 08:35:32 PM
 :laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh:  :abbath:
Title: Re: New EXODUS track
Post by: Pagan Saviour on January 21, 2026, 05:46:18 PM
New track up, after all Holts spoofing it plays out exactly as you'd expect. To be fair the moody intro sounded cool but it did go on a bit, then ridiculously goes into a fast riff that sounds like any other latterday Exodus song. Dukes vocals are awful, one dimensional.


Waiting for someone to claim this is "decent"
Title: Re: New EXODUS track
Post by: Giggles on January 21, 2026, 05:59:07 PM
I knew you'd be the first person on here moaning about it  :laugh:

Dukes is grand I think this track is decent  :abbath:
Title: Re: New EXODUS track
Post by: Pagan Saviour on January 21, 2026, 06:00:55 PM
Plonker  :laugh:


Ah Just most of the old guard releasing autopilot shit. I know there's plenty of other stuff to be bothering with. Between this and the new Kreator ...
Title: Re: New EXODUS track
Post by: Anvil on January 21, 2026, 06:03:58 PM
Turned it off about 20 seconds after the intro ended.  I shall not be saying it is decent.
Title: Re: New EXODUS track
Post by: Bürggermeister on January 21, 2026, 06:11:15 PM
Nothing I'd pay to hear again. And that artwork, jaysus  :-[
Title: Re: New EXODUS track
Post by: Pagan Saviour on January 21, 2026, 06:15:37 PM
QuoteIt's something else, man... It's crushing, but it's also all anthems. Every song's an anthem. It's awesome. We're super proud of this record."

If ever there was a warning not to use Crack. In the same interview he refers to Exhibit B as his best work, but this new one beats it.
Title: Re: New EXODUS track
Post by: Sworntothecans on January 21, 2026, 07:10:29 PM
They're on Napalm Records now so that's all the quality control out the window. Absolutely shite artwork.
Title: Re: New EXODUS track
Post by: Carnage on January 21, 2026, 07:16:24 PM
Dire cover art altogether, whoever okayed that needs a slap.

The song itself is OK until the 'solo'/outro, fucking woeful. Holt's paid a bit too much attention to King's coasting in Slayer. I like the extended intro but the body of the song itself is very short stuck between that and the outro.
Title: Re: New EXODUS track
Post by: Eoin McLove on January 21, 2026, 08:28:01 PM
Just had a look at the artwork. Jaysus.
Title: Re: New EXODUS track
Post by: Sworntothecans on January 22, 2026, 09:04:23 AM
Quote from: Eoin McLove on January 21, 2026, 08:28:01 PMJust had a look at the artwork. Jaysus.

Reeks of something that SPV or some crap label would put out for some shite German band in the mid 90s.

Title: Re: New EXODUS track
Post by: Neuromancer on January 22, 2026, 04:47:31 PM
Quote from: Carnage on January 21, 2026, 07:16:24 PMDire cover art altogether, whoever okayed that needs a slap.

The song itself is OK until the 'solo'/outro, fucking woeful. Holt's paid a bit too much attention to King's coasting in Slayer. I like the extended intro but the body of the song itself is very short stuck between that and the outro.

Yeah, agree with that - intro certainly was interesting, but it just descended into a stock Exodus "micro song" - if the track had been written with more of an expansion of the intro and the Pantera inspired Psycho Holiday outro section (2:35 onwards) it would likely be better. Dukes voice is just so generic it strips the whole thing of any personality.

Incidentally just finished Holt's book - didn't realise just how much he, Hunolt & Hunting hit the skids in the 90s/early 2000s - absolute depths of grimness.

But the book itself was pretty boring, a whistle stop tour of his life events, scant on any real detail or musical depth, candid about the drug use - but not much else worthy of note. Didn't even mention his failed auction for Machine Head.  :laugh:

While I've always enjoyed a decent portion of the Exodus catalogue, they're more of an "ideal/embodiment of the Thrash Metal spirit" than renowned for their tunes - so there's a fondness for what they represent, "didn't get big enough to sell out/remained underground".