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Metal Discussion => Metal Discussion => Topic started by: Pentagrimes on November 21, 2018, 11:20:25 AM

Title: "Lost" albums
Post by: Pentagrimes on November 21, 2018, 11:20:25 AM
I always liked the idea of the "vault" feature on MI as a feature for digging up over looked or forgotten albums (even though it ended up being largely a series of articles about weak albums by big bands)..thought it might be fun to post a few here

Floodgate "Penalty"

Ex-Exhorder band who did the vaguely stoner/sludgey NOLA thing. I guess they were always in the shadow of Down, but I really liked this album when it came out. FFO Down, latter day COC, Crowbar, that kinda thing. Think there was just this one album and then Roadrunner dropped them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZL93wC7FnA

Atrocity "Todessensucht"
Absolute masterpiece that again suffered from Roadrunner picking them up and dropping them almost instantly. A more complex, morbid sounding Euro take on the Florida stuff that picks up nicely from "Hallucinations" and stands up remarkably well two decades later. Shame they turned into such an abomination after this. If you've never heard it or only know their awful goth metal shite, set aside a half hour or so, grab the headphones and get stuck into this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MRVnDMyzr8

Ocean (US) "Here Where Nothing Grows"
Sorely underrated band from the early 00s post Neurosis/Southern Lord inspired "post" doom thing. These guys did it best. I feel like their name was a stumbling block in terms of being mistaken for the inferior German band The Ocean. Heavy as fuck, well thought out. See Also: Asva, Buried At Sea, Minsk, Mouth of the Architecht
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61Xc2fyu4wA

Deadguy "Screaming With The Deadguy Quintet"
Well known (largely for their seminal "Fixation on a Coworker" LP) in hardcore circles, not well known in metal circles (bar Igor Cavalera wearing their shirt in the "Attitude" video yonks ago), but if you like Today is the Day's best stuff this will absolutely blow your mind. Contemporaries of theirs, I think Steve Austin may have recorded this in fact. Noisey, skronky, violent shit that ended up being their last and best record.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPhCjKebuAg
Title: Re: "Lost" albums
Post by: Cryptic Stench on November 21, 2018, 12:48:58 PM
Some good ones there! Especially the Floodgate one, picked that up at the time. Hasn't aged as well as the other acts you've mentioned though.

One of the last Into the Vault's was Paw's Dragline, a phenomenal record and one which fits the Grunge tag best for me. Load of other great albums from that era get overlooked, Tad's Inhaler is another one!

From a metal perspective I've always loved Liers In Wait's ep - Spiritually Uncontrolled art, suge a display of primal savagery on that record, shame it's all they ever released.
Title: Re: "Lost" albums
Post by: Pentagrimes on November 21, 2018, 12:54:32 PM
"SUA" is an absolute masterpiece, still kills me they never did a full album..didn't they start recording and then abandon it according to legend?

In terms of the Grunge era..Barkmarket's "Gimmick" springs immediately to mind

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWAFhqMa_vE
Title: Re: "Lost" albums
Post by: ochoill on November 21, 2018, 01:12:58 PM
Great idea for a thread, given the descriptions of a few of those albums i'll be checking them out tonight.

Was recently going through my old digital library on PC, few odd gems in there too that I'll revisit over the next few days and add here.
Title: Re: "Lost" albums
Post by: Ollkiller on November 21, 2018, 02:05:36 PM
Great thread idea. Will check those recommendations out.
Title: Re: "Lost" albums
Post by: Petardo on November 21, 2018, 09:52:32 PM
Loudblast "Sublime Dimentia"
Very influenced by Death's Human and Pestilence Testimony of The Ancients. Its not as good as either but has its own charm, and is a fantastic album by an otherwise uninteresting band.
Title: Re: "Lost" albums
Post by: Pentagrimes on November 22, 2018, 09:09:08 AM
Ceremonium "Into the Autumn Shade"
Best US Doom/Death ever?Without a doubt.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsbVOcaT4-c
Title: Re: "Lost" albums
Post by: astfgyl on November 23, 2018, 11:06:49 PM
Quote from: Pentagrimes on November 22, 2018, 09:09:08 AM
Ceremonium "Into the Autumn Shade"
Best US Doom/Death ever?Without a doubt.

Really like the music but I can't stand those vocals. pity.
Title: Re: "Lost" albums
Post by: Wiseblood on November 24, 2018, 09:05:00 AM
I always thought Heal by Sacred Reich should have gotten more attention.
Title: Re: "Lost" albums
Post by: Malco on November 24, 2018, 08:15:36 PM
unique doom/death stuff
https://youtu.be/IgOP0fFqouU
Title: Re: "Lost" albums
Post by: Cryptic Stench on November 24, 2018, 08:35:40 PM
[quotealways thought Heal by Sacred Reich should have gotten more attention.][/quote]

I'm a huge Sacred Reich fan but couldn't agree there. Heal and Independent are dull records, there's about 4 good tracks on each. Heal is a whopper track.
Title: Re: "Lost" albums
Post by: Abandon All Hope on November 24, 2018, 11:27:52 PM
Quote from: Pentagrimes on November 22, 2018, 09:09:08 AM
Ceremonium "Into the Autumn Shade"
Best US Doom/Death ever?Without a doubt.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsbVOcaT4-c

That is savage never heard of these guys love the vocals and music.
Title: Re: "Lost" albums
Post by: Trev on November 27, 2018, 08:33:20 AM
Target - 80s thrash from Belgium

They only had two albums and both are worth checking out, similar enough to Dark Angel in places

Mission Executed - https://youtu.be/L107S-f9UbE

Master Project Genesis - https://youtu.be/tt1TG3b961c
Title: Re: "Lost" albums
Post by: Thanatos on November 27, 2018, 02:06:43 PM
Lost, obscure or under appreciated....

Stillborn [SWE] - Necrospirituals (1989)
https://youtu.be/fu4hlkAv8Ic (https://youtu.be/fu4hlkAv8Ic)

Crimson Relic [US] - Purgatorys Reign (1996)
https://youtu.be/rhXgCQuE3zw (https://youtu.be/rhXgCQuE3zw)

Maple Cross [FIN]- The Eight Day of Creation (1991)
https://youtu.be/DuGkd6IzsFI (https://youtu.be/DuGkd6IzsFI)

Mandator [NL] - Initial Velocity (1988)
https://youtu.be/DHq94WVUI5M (https://youtu.be/DHq94WVUI5M)
Title: Re: "Lost" albums
Post by: 0ricky7 on November 27, 2018, 02:17:12 PM
The red chord are a band I spin regularly,all their albums are top class,phazm are another brilliant band who needs a mention antebellum death and roll and hate at first seed are brilliant albums
Title: Re: "Lost" albums
Post by: Eoin McLove on November 28, 2018, 03:08:39 AM
Quote from: Noisymute on November 27, 2018, 02:06:43 PM
Lost, obscure or under appreciated....

Stillborn [SWE] - Necrospirituals (1989)
https://youtu.be/fu4hlkAv8Ic (https://youtu.be/fu4hlkAv8Ic)

Crimson Relic [US] - Purgatorys Reign (1996)
https://youtu.be/rhXgCQuE3zw (https://youtu.be/rhXgCQuE3zw)

Maple Cross [FIN]- The Eight Day of Creation (1991)
https://youtu.be/DuGkd6IzsFI (https://youtu.be/DuGkd6IzsFI)

Mandator [NL] - Initial Velocity (1988)
https://youtu.be/DHq94WVUI5M (https://youtu.be/DHq94WVUI5M)

Musically that Stillborn song is ordinary enough but the Saruman vocals are so cool they take it up several notches.
Title: Re: "Lost" albums
Post by: Juggz on December 12, 2018, 09:48:31 AM
Symbyosis - On The Wings of Phoenix (2005)

A sprawling double-album of melodic and mildly technical death from France.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKR_SvC9Z9M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhCbErUIEIk
Title: Re: "Lost" albums
Post by: Thanatos on December 12, 2018, 09:58:45 AM
Quote from: Juggz on December 12, 2018, 09:48:31 AM
Symbyosis - On The Wings of Phoenix (2005)

A sprawling double-album of melodic and mildly technical death from France.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKR_SvC9Z9M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhCbErUIEIk

Aaaagh! Papyrus!
Title: Re: "Lost" albums
Post by: Petardo on December 14, 2018, 12:03:38 PM
Twisted Into Form - Then Comes Affliction to Awake The Dreamer

A technical metal gem from members of Spiral Architect. Very similar in style to the SA album, but a bit more straightforward and hook driven. At times it sounds like Death's Human with clean vocals.

https://youtu.be/TuoCYHX21eU


Deathrow - Deception Ignored

In an also ran generic Teutonic thrash career these guys created a genuine technical thrash masterpiece. There's a riff or two in there that Vektor have been cheeky with.

https://youtu.be/UHkEax1vkuU


Comecon - Megatrends in Brutality

Not so much a lost gem, but a lost album for sure.
A Swedish DM studio act with that released three albums with a different known singer on each. LG Petrov did this one while he was kicked out of Entombed. The second album has Martin Van Drunen, and the lad from Morgoth on the last. Not reinventing the wheel, but the Petrov one has its moments.

https://youtu.be/BEcjD-b9n8g



Title: Re: "Lost" albums
Post by: Anvil on December 14, 2018, 01:08:17 PM
Deathrow are a killer band.

Another forgotten band beginning with D, Deathwish - killer thrash from the UK.  Two albums, which I both love.

Demon Preacher

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykoV_-xJ9CI

At The Edge of Damnation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgNYJlpm530
Title: Re: "Lost" albums
Post by: Abandon All Hope on December 16, 2018, 02:04:46 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYKocAF3Rl4
Title: Re: "Lost" albums
Post by: Petardo on December 16, 2018, 02:20:47 PM
The Nefilim - Zoon

Fields of The Nephilim frontman's dip into metal. There's kind of a Ministry meets goth feel to it. Its hasn't aged the best there's a few great tracks.

https://youtu.be/CkgxSQHBCgM
Title: Re: "Lost" albums
Post by: Thanatos on December 17, 2018, 02:25:03 PM
Quote from: Petardo on December 16, 2018, 02:20:47 PM
The Nefilim - Zoon

Fields of The Nephilim frontman's dip into metal. There's kind of a Ministry meets goth feel to it. Its hasn't aged the best there's a few great tracks.

https://youtu.be/CkgxSQHBCgM

Oh Wow! I'd completely forgotten about this one. Was given a copy by co-worker in the late 90's. Remember finding it difficult to get into back then. Weird hearing the Ministry, White Zombie and even Slayery influences layered on the Fields of the Nephilim sound.
Title: Re: "Lost" albums
Post by: Sinister Rouge on December 17, 2018, 06:11:39 PM
Exorcist - Nightmare Theatre was an album I played to death back in the day, only ever met one other person who had/liked it, features Virgin Steele members.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3CT7PBcI8U
Title: Re: "Lost" albums
Post by: Pentagrimes on December 18, 2018, 01:50:28 PM
Quote from: Petardo on December 14, 2018, 12:03:38 PM



Comecon - Megatrends in Brutality

Not so much a lost gem, but a lost album for sure.
A Swedish DM studio act with that released three albums with a different known singer on each. LG Petrov did this one while he was kicked out of Entombed. The second album has Martin Van Drunen, and the lad from Morgoth on the last. Not reinventing the wheel, but the Petrov one has its moments.



Funnily enough this and the second one "Converging Conspiracies" has just been reissued. Story is it was a project by two dudes from a hardcore band called The Krixhjalters, and none of the drummers listed on the albums were real, it was all programmed. I think i liked that first one when I was about 15 but then again I had no taste when I was 15  ;D , listening to it now it hasn't aged well.
Title: Re: "Lost" albums
Post by: Juggz on December 19, 2018, 08:06:56 AM
LSD - The Silent Majority

If a slightly heavier version of Dr. Feelgood-era Motley Crue being fronted by a hobo sounds like your cup of tea then you owe it to yourself to discover this gem. Schtick aside, it's a very decent collection of catchy early-90's LA rock with the career-killing decision made to go with the image of a homeless guy as the frontman. Stanley had some fantastic moves, it must be said, and the legendary smell of piss added a thick layer of authenticity. I picked this up for £1 in Freak-Out back in the day, drawn in by the pictures of the three poodle-haired lads with a hobo and the premise that you couldn't go wrong for a quid and so it proved.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fN2o46M4tvY&list=PL36B811DDEABAC71C

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTdLtuh0_DY
Title: Re: "Lost" albums
Post by: Pentagrimes on February 06, 2019, 04:06:25 PM
Saw mention of It Is I elswhere who I'd totally forgotten about, sludgy industrial heft from a former Asbestos Death/Noothgrush member from the early 90s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6r8JOIAT1E


That in turn reminded me of the almighty EISENVATER who were plowing a similar but more refined furrow. Seriously fucking underrated band, way ahead of their time. First album is I think from 91 and really unique and forward looking for the time - it's like a mid point between "Streetcleaner", Crowbar's heaviest moments with something akin to what Today Is The Day would do on their Relapse albums. Long overdue a rediscovery.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOByW7dNmMk

Sure while I'm at it talking about bands ahead of their time, let's talk about MINDROT's "Dawning". Peers of Fear Factory back in the early 90s, but far better, mixing death metal heft, gothy elements, and Neurosis style tribal/industrial intensity
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kzt-6SqxpjU
Title: Re: "Lost" albums
Post by: leoos on February 26, 2019, 09:31:33 AM
Quote from: Pentagrimes on November 21, 2018, 11:20:25 AM

Atrocity "Todessensucht"
Absolute masterpiece that again suffered from Roadrunner picking them up and dropping them almost instantly. A more complex, morbid sounding Euro take on the Florida stuff that picks up nicely from "Hallucinations" and stands up remarkably well two decades later. Shame they turned into such an abomination after this. If you've never heard it or only know their awful goth metal shite, set aside a half hour or so, grab the headphones and get stuck into this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MRVnDMyzr8


I had a tape of this in my first car and listened to it a lot. It does stand up on listening to it again. I must give Hallucinations a spin as well while I'm at it
Title: Re: "Lost" albums
Post by: Goatlord on February 26, 2019, 02:20:26 PM
That Mindrot is a brilliant album, all of their stuff is right and good. One i had out at the weekend again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1jj6WLJENk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1jj6WLJENk)
Title: Re: "Lost" albums
Post by: Thorn on February 26, 2019, 06:57:48 PM
Great call on Todessehnsucht, spent many a teen evening with that one, was nothing really like it at the time, twisted, dark ,eery,just the right amount of technical fretboard fuckery  and that cold German harshness underpinning it all, fucking brilliant album, absolute travesty the muck they began pedalling soon after.
Title: Re: "Lost" albums
Post by: Don Gately on February 27, 2019, 01:26:40 PM
Quote from: Goatlord on February 26, 2019, 02:20:26 PM
That Mindrot is a brilliant album, all of their stuff is right and good. One i had out at the weekend again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1jj6WLJENk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1jj6WLJENk)

That's mad , was into this too at the time, myself and a few mates used to swap tapes and we all liked this but we just assumed we were the only ones who heard of it. Follow the wheels , wheels of fiiiiire
Title: Re: "Lost" albums
Post by: Floss on February 28, 2019, 09:38:10 AM
Maybe this got listed - but there isnt a bad riff on this. Its their only good album IMO, but some seriously memorable hooks on this one -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-BV6FGrmy4
Title: Re: "Lost" albums
Post by: Eoin McLove on March 02, 2019, 03:23:38 PM
Brilliant album.
Title: Re: "Lost" albums
Post by: Mower Liberation Front on April 20, 2020, 01:29:19 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6hfUuh3LgA

Henry Veggian is now a Professor of Literature at UNC now. And professional sport fisherman - beat that Bob "Golf pro" Rusay.

Title: Re: "Lost" albums
Post by: Trev on April 20, 2020, 03:28:35 PM
Martyr - Warp Zone https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nTMLON2KNKVuL-UZchWF2-vyQLanXPc_4

Dan Mongrain really deserves more recognition as a guitarist
Title: Re: "Lost" albums
Post by: TurnTheAirBlue on April 20, 2020, 03:47:31 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pV4ZbnkgfG4
Title: Re: "Lost" albums
Post by: Ducky on April 20, 2020, 03:49:36 PM
Yeah Mongrain is a serious talent, love those three Martyr albums.

His playing with Gorguts is great too, he's such a versatile player.
Title: Re: "Lost" albums
Post by: koper on April 20, 2020, 11:43:15 PM
Everything by Forced Entry, top notch thrash/speed metal on par with the classics for me.
Title: Re: "Lost" albums
Post by: Nail_Bombed on April 21, 2020, 12:50:13 AM
For those who dig chaotic hardcore -  Kiss It Goodbye's album She Loves Me... She Loves Me Not is pretty darn good. Members of Rorschach/Deadguy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqB2Et-lgX8

Also Bloodlet - Entheogen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfWWuDyB6vc
Title: Re: "Lost" albums
Post by: skuddington on April 21, 2020, 09:05:57 AM
Nostromo - Ecce Lex. Swiss grindcore/mathcore. fantastic album, maybe the mathcore elements put people off

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WC0f19LZBIg

Mistress - Chronovisor. Birmingham grind/sludge. Love this band, similar to Charger / Raging Speedhorn. While I'm at it, Charger - Diary of a Man Mad Enough to Live Among People was great too, that whole style seems to have been forgotten.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99YvOUkg4dQ
Title: Re: "Lost" albums
Post by: Nail_Bombed on April 21, 2020, 09:30:41 AM
^ Good stuff there for sure - Nostromo were a class band. Knut as well.

Mistress were some filth alright - definitely throwing some hooky fast stuff to go with the doom/sludge.

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Mare EP - maybe not as unknown, but still - a loss, for those who dig post-rock/metal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4221CYMzG1w
Title: Re: "Lost" albums
Post by: Circlepit on April 21, 2020, 01:10:52 PM
I haven't listened the nostromo album for years. Was one of them from Scotland? Perhaps I'm thinking of a different band. Regardless it's a great album.
Title: Re: "Lost" albums
Post by: Ducky on April 21, 2020, 05:07:52 PM
You rarely see them mentioned with all the classic prog bands of the 70s, but I've had a hard on for UK for many years now, especially their self-titled debut.

Killer line up, (Eddie Jonson, John Wetton, Bill Bruford and Allan Holdsworth), some slick as fuck playing, super catchy too.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLBhn5BzwdzzoKg-fbmJB4fS1zg2LfVGW4
Title: Re: "Lost" albums
Post by: Mower Liberation Front on April 25, 2022, 10:22:12 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhngVgiCq9o&ab_channel=DannyWaysted

Wrathchild America - Climbin' The Walls.
Shame they never made it bigger.
Title: Re: "Lost" albums
Post by: John Kimble on April 26, 2022, 04:35:05 PM
Picked up Dawn - Slaughtersun last year but it's only in the last week or so I got around to giving it some proper attention. Great stuff.

Title: Re: "Lost" albums
Post by: Carnage on April 26, 2022, 05:46:36 PM
How had I never heard Mindrot before now? That stuff's excellent, if I'd heard that back when I was getting into Neurosis I'd have soiled myself.
Title: Re: "Lost" albums
Post by: OpenSores on April 27, 2022, 11:18:41 AM
I'd forgotten I actually had a copy of Mindrot's 'Soul' album, good stuff alright!