On a little Sigh buzz for the first time in a while. I have Infidel Art on and it's a cracking album. You can clearly hear their influences- a bit of Celtic Frost here, a bit of Master's Hammer there, even a bit of Cathedral in places perhaps? Despite that they have an instantly recogniseable sound, not least of all because of Mirai's cool vocals. The only other early release I have my them is Ghastly Funeral Theatre so last night I finally ordered Scorn Defeat, which sounded great from my little YouTube listen. Dunno why I never got around to it before now, but that's often how it goes. I never connected with their later stuff but the old BM style they had was the business.
One of the bigger bands left on the list of bands I've for no particular reason ever sat down and listened to. Maybe listened to Scorn Defeat once fifteen years ago, but can't even remember what my impression was!
Going to add it and Infidel Art to the weekend playing list so, I definitely like the three bands you reference them to.
It's great stuff. Uncomplicated in a way, but full of imagination. There's a big classical mystic influence in their sound which is at odds with the fairly direct riffing style, but in a good way.
There's a really clear heavy metal feel to their songs as well.
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on January 15, 2021, 08:08:04 PM
One of the bigger bands left on the list of bands I've for no particular reason ever sat down and listened to. Maybe listened to Scorn Defeat once fifteen years ago, but can't even remember what my impression was!
Going to add it and Infidel Art to the weekend playing list so, I definitely like the three bands you reference them to.
Was only thinking the exact same thought. Bought quite an amount of material directly from Cacophonous when they were a going concern including Cradle, Dimmu, Bal Sagoth. Gehenna and Vergelmer but Sigh and Deinonychus flew under the radar. Their debut Scorn Defeat scores 92% on Metal Archives so that might not be a bad place to begin.
Had Scorn Defeat back in the day,havent listened to it in a good while now though.Sigh/Primordial was one of my first trips to Dublin for a gig too.
Quote from: vinterland on January 15, 2021, 08:20:12 PM
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on January 15, 2021, 08:08:04 PM
One of the bigger bands left on the list of bands I've for no particular reason ever sat down and listened to. Maybe listened to Scorn Defeat once fifteen years ago, but can't even remember what my impression was!
Going to add it and Infidel Art to the weekend playing list so, I definitely like the three bands you reference them to.
Was only thinking the exact same thought. Bought quite an amount of material directly from Cacophonous when they were a going concern including Cradle, Dimmu, Bal Sagoth. Gehenna and Vergelmer but Sigh and Deinonychus flew under the radar. Their debut Scorn Defeat scores 92% on Metal Archives so that might not be a bad place to begin.
I've never even heard of Vergelmer. Must give them a listen.
I love everything of theirs. The early stuff is some of the best black metal ever made. Their later stuff is obviously very experimental while still retaining that black metal core. One of few bands where the term experimental is not just a byword for shite. Hail Horror Hail is magnificent.
Quote from: Eoin McLove on January 15, 2021, 08:38:52 PM
Quote from: vinterland on January 15, 2021, 08:20:12 PM
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on January 15, 2021, 08:08:04 PM
One of the bigger bands left on the list of bands I've for no particular reason ever sat down and listened to. Maybe listened to Scorn Defeat once fifteen years ago, but can't even remember what my impression was!
Going to add it and Infidel Art to the weekend playing list so, I definitely like the three bands you reference them to.
Was only thinking the exact same thought. Bought quite an amount of material directly from Cacophonous when they were a going concern including Cradle, Dimmu, Bal Sagoth. Gehenna and Vergelmer but Sigh and Deinonychus flew under the radar. Their debut Scorn Defeat scores 92% on Metal Archives so that might not be a bad place to begin.
I've never even heard of Vergelmer. Must give them a listen.
They trade under the banner of melodic Swedish black metal without being in the same league as some of their contemporaries Dawn, The Moaning, Sacramentum and (who else) Vinterland. They only have one album to their name in "Light the Black Flame." They had an unreleased demo uploaded on Youtube once upon a time which was of a much higher quality than their 1997 release. It had a two worded title the first of which (from what I can recall) was Omnio.
Cool. I'll give it a spin later.
I've never listened to Hail Horror Hail before and I'm just after sticking it on on YouTube. Jeepers, it immediately leps out of the speakers. I thought this might be where they started to move away from BM (maybe that happens across the album) but so far it sounds like early Sigh on overdrive! Must see if I can find a copy for sale in the coming weeks.
I gave Gallows Gallery and Hangman's Hymn a good few spins when they came out but wasn't bothered about their other material, being that I'm generally not a BM fan. Those two were great sounds, though.
So many albums I should check out but I can't recommend Scorn Defeat highly enough. Beautiful flow off the album, love the vocal variety, and harpsichords, what's not to like?!
My least favourite of theirs is Imaginary Soniscape. It's not a bad album, just not up to their impossibly high standards.
Scorn Defeat is the only album of theirs that I listen to regularly, but it's incredible. Infidel Art is great too but that's where things start to get a bit too out there for me, I don't find myself spinning that one as often.
The later stuff is mental, really enjoy it for a song or two, but can never get through a full album of it. Enjoyed the story on the Alan Averill podcast of their first gig in Dublin too.
Scorn Defeat is my fave of theirs.
Have a copy of black wax Ghastly Funeral Theatre to shift if anyone is interested.
I have the vinyl editions of Infidel Art and Ghastly Funeral Theatre that The Crypt released some years back. They are stunning.
I have the Infidel Art and Scorn Defeat Crypt reissues they are beautiful packages. Was always sorry I didn't shell out for Ghastly Funeral Theatre.
:abbath:
Who's the dude in the background? What year was the gig again?
Quote from: Eoin McLove on January 16, 2021, 06:42:10 PM
Who's the dude in the background? What year was the gig again?
95 ,there was a guy with a angle grinder and a steel plate doing a bit of a spark exhibition during the set.
Someone mentioned it already, but check out Alan Averil's podcast for the story of that Primordial/Sigh gig. Very amusing, think it's the first episode.
:abbath:
95 for me was Machine Head/ Meshuggah/ Mary Beats Jane, Sunstroke 95 and maybe a few more I can't think of. Nothing as heavy a that :laugh:
Fear Factory and Paradiee Lost (separate gigs) in the SFX were both '95, I think? They're the only major gigs I can remember from that year. I think that Desecration gig in Cork was that year too, if memory serves?
Where was that Sigh gig on? I'm trying to place the background.
I was at Fear Factory. I don't think it was the same year as Machine Head, though.
Didnt he have a human skull on stage also?
Quote from: Eoin McLove on January 16, 2021, 10:33:16 PM
I was at Fear Factory. I don't think it was the same year as Machine Head, though.
Machine Head was May '95, it seems (missed that one myself), Fear Factory was November '95 (according to Setlist.fm).
Paradise Lost was March '96, so scratch that.
I saw PL in The Music Centre whenever that was. Their goth phase. Quite a dull gig for me at the time but if I remember correctly they finished with As I Die which sent me home smiling.
Quote from: hellfire on January 15, 2021, 11:00:40 PM
My least favourite of theirs is Imaginary Soniscape. It's not a bad album, just not up to their impossibly high standards.
The only Sigh album I know. I quite like it too, going from this thread it might be time to check out the rest.
Quote from: Eoin McLove on January 16, 2021, 11:38:10 PM
I saw PL in The Music Centre whenever that was. Their goth phase. Quite a dull gig for me at the time but if I remember correctly they finished with As I Die which sent me home smiling.
McGonagle's in '92 and that Draconian Times show. There might have been more people at the McGonagle's gig, but they were great both times.
And a very begrudging' As I Die' it was too. There was a definite disconnect between where PL were at, or thought they were at, and their fan base at that time. Came away from that gig feeling pretty disappointed.
But yeah, Sigh, top band for sure.
Haha yeah. It's like they grudgingly squeezed out out through their holes. I enjoyed it none the less :laugh:
PL played Cork that time too,it would have been early 99,Entombed played the Music centre about a week before hand.(i can remember being pretty stoked catching both bands in such a short space of time).But yeah PL were a massive disappointment,terrible shite.
That Entombed gig was with who again?
They played twice in the space of a year or two with two savage lineups. Neurosis and Today is the Day was one I think, but that was 97 or 98? I'm possibly mixing three or four gigs together in my head though because Neurosis played two great gigs too.
Medulla Nocte were in the mix I think... Jesus, it's so long ago and my brain is like Swiss cheese.
But anyway... SIGH! I had Ghastly Funeral Theatre on last night and thought, this sounds like a BM Beatles. I then read the comments from Mirai who says he was trying to mix black metal with The Beatles! Nailed it :laugh:
Quote from: Paul keohane on January 17, 2021, 09:20:25 AM
PL played Cork that time too,it would have been early 99,Entombed played the Music centre about a week before hand.(i can remember being pretty stoked catching both bands in such a short space of time).But yeah PL were a massive disappointment,terrible shite.
Didnt they say at the Cork gig "no old stuff, get used to it" or something like that.
Quote from: Eoin McLove on January 17, 2021, 09:31:01 AM
That Entombed gig was with who again?
They played twice in the space of a year or two with two savage lineups. Neurosis and Today is the Day was one I think, but that was 97 or 98? I'm possibly mixing three or four gigs together in my head though because Neurosis played two great gigs too.
Medulla Nocte were in the mix I think... Jesus, it's so long ago and my brain is like Swiss cheese.
But anyway... SIGH! I had Ghastly Funeral Theatre on last night and thought, this sounds like a BM Beatles. I then read the comments from Mirai who says he was trying to mix black metal with The Beatles! Nailed it :laugh:
Yeah medulla Nocte and Skinlab.
Quote from: Blizzard Beast on January 17, 2021, 11:13:06 AM
Quote from: Paul keohane on January 17, 2021, 09:20:25 AM
PL played Cork that time too,it would have been early 99,Entombed played the Music centre about a week before hand.(i can remember being pretty stoked catching both bands in such a short space of time).But yeah PL were a massive disappointment,terrible shite.
Didnt they say at the Cork gig "no old stuff, get used to it" or something like that.
yeah,i can remember the annoyance from the crowd!.
Quote from: Paul keohane on January 17, 2021, 01:51:29 PM
Quote from: Eoin McLove on January 17, 2021, 09:31:01 AM
That Entombed gig was with who again?
They played twice in the space of a year or two with two savage lineups. Neurosis and Today is the Day was one I think, but that was 97 or 98? I'm possibly mixing three or four gigs together in my head though because Neurosis played two great gigs too.
Medulla Nocte were in the mix I think... Jesus, it's so long ago and my brain is like Swiss cheese.
But anyway... SIGH! I had Ghastly Funeral Theatre on last night and thought, this sounds like a BM Beatles. I then read the comments from Mirai who says he was trying to mix black metal with The Beatles! Nailed it :laugh:
Yeah medulla Nocte and Skinlab.
Skinlab, haha. Oh yeah! I was wearing sandals in the moshpit (genius!) and I lost a toe nail :laugh:
Quote from: Eoin McLove on January 17, 2021, 09:31:01 AM
That Entombed gig was with who again?
They played twice in the space of a year or two with two savage lineups. Neurosis and Today is the Day was one I think, but that was 97 or 98? I'm possibly mixing three or four gigs together in my head though because Neurosis played two great gigs too.
Entombed had Neurosis as support around '96/'97 (I think Breach opened for them?), Neurosis came back with Voivod and TITD a couple of years later (Times Of Grace tour).
Quote from: Eoin McLove on January 17, 2021, 02:06:07 PM
Quote from: Paul keohane on January 17, 2021, 01:51:29 PM
Quote from: Eoin McLove on January 17, 2021, 09:31:01 AM
That Entombed gig was with who again?
They played twice in the space of a year or two with two savage lineups. Neurosis and Today is the Day was one I think, but that was 97 or 98? I'm possibly mixing three or four gigs together in my head though because Neurosis played two great gigs too.
Medulla Nocte were in the mix I think... Jesus, it's so long ago and my brain is like Swiss cheese.
But anyway... SIGH! I had Ghastly Funeral Theatre on last night and thought, this sounds like a BM Beatles. I then read the comments from Mirai who says he was trying to mix black metal with The Beatles! Nailed it :laugh:
Yeah medulla Nocte and Skinlab.
Skinlab, haha. Oh yeah! I was wearing sandals in the moshpit (genius!) and I lost a toe nail :laugh:
Quirky lost his Glasses in the pit when Entombed played Left hand Path,proper big pit,a couple of minutes later he found them on the ground on one piece! (Kind of).
That gig with Neurosis was one i was desperate to go to,but my parents pulled rank as i was doing my leaving cert! (Youd fuckin swear i was a serious academic going for medicine and this gig would have hampered that)
Some run of whoppers in the space of around three years back then alright. My first contact with Neurosis was seeing them support Entombed ( in 97 I believe) and it was one of those "HOLY FUCK, WHAT IS THIS???" moments.