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Metal Discussion => Metal Discussion => Topic started by: Circlepit on September 08, 2020, 01:27:34 PM

Title: S and M 2.
Post by: Circlepit on September 08, 2020, 01:27:34 PM
This was on sky arts the other night and watched most of it last night. The drum sound is massive.
The songs. Hmmm.
Title: Re: S and M 2.
Post by: Wiseblood on September 08, 2020, 01:42:24 PM
Flat and tired 2nd attempt at a flat and tired concept that didn't work the first time around.  I've been the biggest fan of Metallica forever but they're just not at the races anymore.
Title: Re: S and M 2.
Post by: Circlepit on September 08, 2020, 01:43:46 PM
That's it. The only thing I could take away from it was the drum sound was terrific.
Title: Re: S and M 2.
Post by: Trev on September 08, 2020, 01:54:09 PM
I really liked the first one, but this just seemed a lazy attempt at trying it again. They didn't even bother mixing up the set with nearly all the songs from the original reused
Title: Re: S and M 2.
Post by: The Heretic on September 08, 2020, 01:59:12 PM
I wasn't a big fan of the first one, but even if I was this seems a bit pointless surely?
Title: Re: S and M 2.
Post by: ldj on September 08, 2020, 02:11:51 PM
I had it on in the backround only half paying attention when it was on the other night. Most of Metallica's material is just too busy for that sort of thing tbh, I'd say it was a pain in the arse for the engineer to mix too.

The lad playing Anesthesia on the double bass (?) was class though.
Title: Re: S and M 2.
Post by: Wiseblood on September 08, 2020, 02:17:35 PM
Quote from: ldj on September 08, 2020, 02:11:51 PM
I had it on in the backround only half paying attention when it was on the other night. Most of Metallica's material is just too busy for that sort of thing tbh, I'd say it was a pain in the arse for the engineer to mix too.

The lad playing Anesthesia on the double bass (?) was class though.

Think about the fact that the highlight of a Metallica gig comes from a guy that isn't in Metallica   :)
Title: Re: S and M 2.
Post by: astfgyl on September 08, 2020, 02:41:11 PM
I had the cd in my hand the other day. Took one look at the tracklist and put it back down. Pointless indeed. I'd look at it on the telly if it was on but that's as far as it will go with me
Title: Re: S and M 2.
Post by: leatherface on September 08, 2020, 03:22:59 PM
Why this though? Why not do a normal concert? Some odds and sods thrown in maybe (breadfan etc). Best of the rest or whatever. Why do this rubbish all over again??
Title: Re: S and M 2.
Post by: Circlepit on September 08, 2020, 03:34:53 PM
They also just did one of those playing to nobody type things.
Did any of ye watch the Behemoth thing?
Title: Re: S and M 2.
Post by: Floss on September 08, 2020, 03:48:04 PM
I recorded S&M2 and flicked through it last night.... the thing that stood out most to me was the amazing vocal performance. I dont think he missed a note (assuming it wasn't doctored in post)  - very impressive.  I had seen the Anasthesia clip already - that really was great.  The rest of it is kinda hit or miss.
Title: Re: S and M 2.
Post by: Kurt Cocaine on September 08, 2020, 04:46:39 PM
Quote from: Circlepit on September 08, 2020, 03:34:53 PM
They also just did one of those playing to nobody type things.
Did any of ye watch the Behemoth thing?
Yep, watched it Saturday night. First class and the church was a great setting.
Title: Re: S and M 2.
Post by: Circlepit on September 08, 2020, 05:05:24 PM
I didn't get it in the end but wish I had. The setlist was great . Behemoth that is.
Title: Re: S and M 2.
Post by: open face surgery on September 08, 2020, 06:06:34 PM
Quote from: Circlepit on September 08, 2020, 01:43:46 PM
That's it. The only thing I could take away from it was the drum sound was terrific.

Lars having a great drum sound is like me having the best cricket equipment.
Title: Re: S and M 2.
Post by: Carnage on September 08, 2020, 06:16:29 PM
Yeah, he still can't play the fucking things. I just stuck it on there, about halfway through Ktulu and he hasn't played a single bar that isn't him throwing in intrusive fills or simply playing out of time. Useless cunt.

The two boys going nuts on the xylophones was gas though.
Title: Re: S and M 2.
Post by: Circlepit on September 08, 2020, 06:33:59 PM
Quote from: open face surgery on September 08, 2020, 06:06:34 PM
Quote from: Circlepit on September 08, 2020, 01:43:46 PM
That's it. The only thing I could take away from it was the drum sound was terrific.

Lars having a great drum sound is like me having the best cricket equipment.

Whatever about his playing they sounded good. The snare was loud and clear and the toms were huge.

Title: Re: S and M 2.
Post by: Eoin McLove on September 08, 2020, 06:49:40 PM
Quote from: open face surgery on September 08, 2020, 06:06:34 PM
Quote from: Circlepit on September 08, 2020, 01:43:46 PM
That's it. The only thing I could take away from it was the drum sound was terrific.


Lars having a great drum sound is like me having the best cricket equipment.

Or your own highly polished soup spoon?
Title: Re: S and M 2.
Post by: Ducky on September 08, 2020, 07:12:21 PM
160 sheets for the big box set of this in Golden Discs. My local one has sold loads of them...
Title: Re: S and M 2.
Post by: Carnage on September 08, 2020, 07:25:16 PM
Lots of overdubs on this, drums and vocals stand out. Anesthesia on the cello was cringeworthy, too. I'd be curious what the full version is like, the Sky one I'm watching is only about half of it.
Title: Re: S and M 2.
Post by: open face surgery on September 08, 2020, 07:26:54 PM
Quote from: Eoin McLove on September 08, 2020, 06:49:40 PM
Quote from: open face surgery on September 08, 2020, 06:06:34 PM
Quote from: Circlepit on September 08, 2020, 01:43:46 PM
That's it. The only thing I could take away from it was the drum sound was terrific.


Lars having a great drum sound is like me having the best cricket equipment.

Or your own highly polished soup spoon?

Hahaha. Can't have one without the other.
Title: Re: S and M 2.
Post by: Cosmic_Equilibrium on September 08, 2020, 07:30:52 PM
Plus points:

* Lovely packaging.
* Sound is pretty good - the band and orchestra sound vast at times. I think the orchestra is a bit low in the mix here and there though.
* Call Of Ktulu, Day That Never Comes, Confusion - all good
*All Within My Hands - I'm still amazed that they got a St. Anger song to sound listenable.
* Anaesthesia is great


Minuses:

* Lack of that much adventure in the setlist choices - Orion, Fade To Black, more of the Loads would all have worked
* CD2 opens with two minutes of Lars talking
* Despite the compensation of the orchestra, the band really haven't been the same in the live arena since Newsted left.
Title: Re: S and M 2.
Post by: jobrok1 on September 08, 2020, 09:41:15 PM
LP editions of this are scandalously priced.
Title: Re: S and M 2.
Post by: durag on September 08, 2020, 09:51:59 PM
I liked the first one, thought the Load and Reload songs sounded great with the orchestra especially Bleeding Me. Have zero interest in hearing it redone.
Title: Re: S and M 2.
Post by: Circlepit on September 08, 2020, 10:47:44 PM
The first time around they did it in Moscow as well. I never heard it. I though Bleeding me and Fuel sounded great from the original. I'd say the tickets were a fine price this time around.