https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/live-concerts-may-not-return-until-fall-2021-healthcare-advisor/
I know nobody knows what's gonna happen in the near future, nevermind 2021, but if no gigs til autumn 2021, there's gonna be a hell of a lot of bands (and comedians etc), going tits up.
Really can't see any major gigs happening this year anyway.
Until there's a vaccine, the fun-bus is off the road in almost every aspect.
This booker is saying the same thing
https://lambgoat.com/news/32943/Metal-booking-agent-doesnt-think-touring-will-resume-until-2021
So Online gigs the future? pay for access and just bands playing in empty venues.
Online gigs..... the thought makes me shudder
While I like getting drunk at home by myself as much as the next fella, if that was my only way to experience a gig it'd be awful miserable.
Quote from: Blitzer666 on April 13, 2020, 01:52:04 PM
https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/live-concerts-may-not-return-until-fall-2021-healthcare-advisor/
I know nobody knows what's gonna happen in the near future, nevermind 2021, but if no gigs til autumn 2021, there's gonna be a hell of a lot of bands (and comedians etc), going tits up.
Really can't see any major gigs happening this year anyway.
That is an American website so what might be true there might not necessarily be the case here. But once again who knows? What we may see is a lot more new albums being recorded over the next 6 months or so.
Its like watching football being played in empty stadiums,whats the fuckin point?,crowd interaction and atmosphere is a massive part of all live events,weather its football or a death metal gig.
A few people I know who work for touring bands in various capacities have all been "unofficially" told that they can reasonably expect to have the rest of the year off.
It's certainly not beyond the realms of possibility. This current lockdown is gonna be in place until June at the earliest, and when it ends restrictions will be tapered down rather than just lifted, to see what happens regatding another wave of infection when social interaction starts returning (by degrees) toward some kind of normality. That takes us to somewhere around mid-august/September, if we base timescale projections on what we've had so far.
Realistically, barring the discovery/deployment of a miracle cure, id say it's not unreasonable to assume that we've had all we're getting this year.
So what's everyones gig of 2020? The wildhearts/backyard babies in the limelight by default take it, although it was a great night.
Quote from: Kunt 4 Life on April 13, 2020, 09:26:14 PM
So what's everyones gig of 2020? The wildhearts/backyard babies in the limelight by default take it, although it was a great night.
I guess Grand Magus since it was the only one I got to, but it was also a great gig
The Picturebooks in Whelans at the beginning of March. Amazing night and probably our last gig of the year. Fond memories....
Quote from: Paul keohane on April 13, 2020, 06:00:11 PM
Its like watching football being played in empty stadiums,whats the fuckin point?,crowd interaction and atmosphere is a massive part of all live events,weather its football or a death metal gig.
Wrestling without the crowd is so incredibly dull that I can't watch it.
Quote from: Kunt 4 Life on April 13, 2020, 09:26:14 PM
So what's everyones gig of 2020? The wildhearts/backyard babies in the limelight by default take it, although it was a great night.
Urban Assault, Cork - deadly night on Fri 28 Feb. Sacrilegia were fantastic. Can't speak for the next night as not able to get to it, but by other accounts it was also a rager.
Quote from: Nail_Bombed on April 14, 2020, 04:13:10 PM
Quote from: Kunt 4 Life on April 13, 2020, 09:26:14 PM
So what's everyones gig of 2020? The wildhearts/backyard babies in the limelight by default take it, although it was a great night.
Urban Assault, Cork - deadly night on Fri 28 Feb. Sacrilegia were fantastic. Can't speak for the next night as not able to get to it, but by other accounts it was also a rager.
What a night to finish out the year! :laugh:
:laugh:
Quote from: Snare on April 14, 2020, 10:10:59 PM
Quote from: Nail_Bombed on April 14, 2020, 04:13:10 PM
Quote from: Kunt 4 Life on April 13, 2020, 09:26:14 PM
So what's everyones gig of 2020? The wildhearts/backyard babies in the limelight by default take it, although it was a great night.
Urban Assault, Cork - deadly night on Fri 28 Feb. Sacrilegia were fantastic. Can't speak for the next night as not able to get to it, but by other accounts it was also a rager.
What a night to finish out the year! :laugh:
:P
So this is gigs for the foreseeable
https://youtu.be/d1pj9Vmn-q4?t=1449
Quote from: Melmoth on April 15, 2020, 02:47:13 AM
So this is gigs for the foreseeable
https://youtu.be/d1pj9Vmn-q4?t=1449
I dare say I'm the only person on this forum who likes Scooter. Cue abuse /derision :laugh:
Quote from: Bogmetaller on April 15, 2020, 10:09:39 AM
Quote from: Melmoth on April 15, 2020, 02:47:13 AM
So this is gigs for the foreseeable
https://youtu.be/d1pj9Vmn-q4?t=1449
I dare say I'm the only person on this forum who likes Scooter. Cue abuse /derision :laugh:
There's only one track attacker and chicks thriller.
The world feels lighter with Scooter in it.
Another quote of the year contender from Quirke...
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Quote from: Airneanach on April 15, 2020, 10:16:05 AM
Quote from: Bogmetaller on April 15, 2020, 10:09:39 AM
Quote from: Melmoth on April 15, 2020, 02:47:13 AM
So this is gigs for the foreseeable
https://youtu.be/d1pj9Vmn-q4?t=1449
Not to mention the fact that the singer is the "chicks checker". Lofty self praise there. :laugh:
I dare say I'm the only person on this forum who likes Scooter. Cue abuse /derision :laugh:
There's only one track attacker and chicks thriller.
The world feels lighter with Scooter in it.
Respect to the man in the ice cream van
I like Scooter. First album I ever owned was ...And the Beat Goes On.
That's what happens when everyone else in your family has zero interest in music and you just latch on to whats in the charts at the time.
That album is grand. Scooter were like the techno Manowar when they started with an unshakable commitment to getting smashed on yokes.
"It's not a bird, it's not a plane
It must be Dave who's on the train"
More lyrical genius from Billy Idol mk II. :laugh:
Wacken in august under threat due to concerns of large gatherings.
Quote from: Blizzard Beast on April 16, 2020, 10:53:09 AM
Wacken in august under threat due to concerns of large gatherings.
There probably be no festivals or big gigs this year unless a vaccine is found in double quick time.
Even pubs will struggle....
God is an Astronaut have rescheduled their Apr 18 date to the end of August. Silver linings, as my wedding was supposed to be this Saturday. I'm skeptical things will even be safe for gigs in August but we'll see.
Unless a vaccine is already being publicly rolled out by August, Wacken or similar won't be permitted. And that's not going to happen.
Wacken officially cancelled now.
Wackoff!
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on April 16, 2020, 01:49:26 PM
Unless a vaccine is already being publicly rolled out by August, Wacken or similar won't be permitted. And that's not going to happen.
Exactly. Even if a cure was discovered today, it would take over 200 days (can't remember the exact figure, 263 maybe?) to manufacture a batch of vaccines ready for distribution. This info comes from somebody I know who works in the manufacturing of vaccines. Not sure if that timeframe is strictly limited to her own company's abilities, but she seems fairly certain that we're not gonna get spiked anytime soon.
Quote from: Wiseblood on April 16, 2020, 02:02:04 PM
Wacken officially cancelled now.
Yeah...
Germany put a ban on all large social gatherings till at least the 31st August.
And they seem to be dealing with it the best in EU at the moment.
I can only presume most, if not all, other EU countries will follow the suit.
Fuck sake just popped up on my FB memories,5 years ago today Anathema played that gig where they did the old material with Darren white!.
Definitely getting gig withdrawals!
Deadly show, that.
Great show. Darren definitely had that swagger about him.
Quote from: Emphyrio on April 16, 2020, 01:24:39 PM
God is an Astronaut have rescheduled their Apr 18 date to the end of August. Silver linings, as my wedding was supposed to be this Saturday. I'm skeptical things will even be safe for gigs in August but we'll see.
What's happening about your wedding? I'm in the events and wedding equipment/furniture business and I'm so worried there will be no business til next year
Postponed til December. I know other couples who postponed to July and August and that's way too soon I reckon. December might even be too soon. We'll see.
Wonder when Belsonic and Ramnestien will make cancellations official. Be a bit of extra cash coming, minus Booking fees of course.
Are bands offering refunds or rescheduling gigs?
Festivals look to be giving out rescheduled dates.
Quote from: Blizzard Beast on April 17, 2020, 07:07:14 PM
Are bands offering refunds or rescheduling gigs?
Festivals look to be giving out rescheduled dates.
I presume if a date is rescheduled you can get a refund if the rescheduled date doesnt suit?
I highly doubt that any decent sized festivals will be going ahead this year. Maybe at the very end of August or September.
I was chatting with my brother earlier and he said the owner of the pub he goes to said it'll probably be September before the pubs are up and running properly again.
Quote from: Paul keohane on April 17, 2020, 07:21:20 PM
Quote from: Blizzard Beast on April 17, 2020, 07:07:14 PM
Are bands offering refunds or rescheduling gigs?
Festivals look to be giving out rescheduled dates.
I presume if a date is rescheduled you can get a refund if the rescheduled date doesnt suit?
Im not sure that will be the case with all organizers when hearing about some terms and conditions.
Also some hotels seem to be offering vouchers instead of refunds.
Quote from: Blizzard Beast on April 17, 2020, 08:08:12 PM
Quote from: Paul keohane on April 17, 2020, 07:21:20 PM
Quote from: Blizzard Beast on April 17, 2020, 07:07:14 PM
Are bands offering refunds or rescheduling gigs?
Festivals look to be giving out rescheduled dates.
I presume if a date is rescheduled you can get a refund if the rescheduled date doesnt suit?
Im not sure that will be the case with all organizers when hearing about some terms and conditions.
Also some hotels seem to be offering vouchers instead of refunds.
i never pay up front for a hotel so i dont know about that,but if an event is rescheduled its usially the case they have to offer a refund.
Quote from: Paul keohane on April 17, 2020, 08:11:39 PM
Quote from: Blizzard Beast on April 17, 2020, 08:08:12 PM
Quote from: Paul keohane on April 17, 2020, 07:21:20 PM
Quote from: Blizzard Beast on April 17, 2020, 07:07:14 PM
Are bands offering refunds or rescheduling gigs?
Festivals look to be giving out rescheduled dates.
I presume if a date is rescheduled you can get a refund if the rescheduled date doesnt suit?
Im not sure that will be the case with all organizers when hearing about some terms and conditions.
Also some hotels seem to be offering vouchers instead of refunds.
i never pay up front for a hotel so i dont know about that,but if an event is rescheduled its usially the case they have to offer a refund.
Some 3rd party sites want money up front so that's where it could become sticky.
Think air b and b want half up front and the other half on arrival?
Gigs will be the last thing to start up again too, it's a killer. I wonder how many bands or venues this will sink. A single potential upside maybe if it flushes some bands out, im not talking about bands who's lives depend on it but just in Dublin, there's fucking thousands of bands clogging up the place.
Surely the raison d'etre of any band, or at least any worthwhile band, is the exploration of ideas and creativity. How a lack of gigs could 'sink' a venture that should be about taking an idea and running with it to create something new and, hopefully, individual makes absolutely no sense to me. If it kills of a few careerists then who cares. Even the biggest Irish metal bands don't make a living out of gigs so it should have zero impact on their continued existence. It might bring a bit of reality back to the game for some people and may even help to refocus bands' attentions back to the important and essential reason for their existence in the first place. Plus, how fucking deluded would a band have to be to think that the 'exposure' from a metal fest in the wilds of Leitrim would boost their career... that mentality just gives me the willies.
That final remark was a response to your comment in the thread about Hills of Metal Boggerphilfest or whatever the fuck it was called.
Quote from: Eoin McLove on April 18, 2020, 02:44:13 PM
Surely the raison d'etre of any band, or at least any worthwhile band, is the exploration of ideas and creativity. How a lack of gigs could 'sink' a venture that should be about taking an idea and running with it to create something new and, hopefully, individual makes absolutely no sense to me. If it kills of a few careerists then who cares. Even the biggest Irish metal bands don't make a living out of gigs so it should have zero impact on their continued existence. It might bring a bit of reality back to the game for some people and may even help to refocus bands' attentions back to the important and essential reason for their existence in the first place. Plus, how fucking deluded would a band have to be to think that the 'exposure' from a metal fest in the wilds of Leitrim would boost their career... that mentality just gives me the willies.
The only parts related to this that could be sunk are venues and promoters, a lack of easy gigs will whittle out anyone who's not doing it for honest creative reasons anyway, which is completely fine for the genres we would be thinking of anyway. But yeah you've the nail on the head for all of that really.
It could impact promoters but I'm sure the likes of H, who has been doing this for a long time and built up the appropriate contacts and trust, will be back up and running asap. I've no idea what his savings are to survive the down time, but I've no doubt he'll survive in the long run. But I see that as a completely different situation.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/coronavirus-gatherings-of-over-5000-people-to-be-banned-until-september-1.4234326
Mass gatherings of over 5,000 banned until at least September.
Easy one to see coming - and I know restrictions could be increased just as easily as they could be decreased - but it might prove to be an interesting positive outlier. We're specifically being told with this that the government's current threshold for immediate social gatherings in an ideal post lockdown is the 5,000 mark.
Bad news for big gigs, but could be something to hope for there with anyone running sub 5,000 venues. Will be hoping Monolith is still on the cards in August, myself. This announcement could have put the bar at 1,000 people, 500, 100 but they haven't.
Whilst taking this seriously - I've been isolating for weeks - we've surely got to start sticking our necks back out sooner or later and go for somewhat of a herd immunity. These measures were only ever intended to take pressure off the health system by flattening the curve and spreading out cases, but a lot of folks now seem to think everything is off the cards until a golden egg vaccine just pops up anywhere from a few months to a year from now. I'm not necessarily sure is that right. Again I take this very seriously but there's fucking thousands of people out there who've caught this and had it run through their system without going on the books or presenting any notable symptoms. I'm glad we took the steps we did take, I'm just wondering how long they ought to be considered valid whilst up against trashing our way of life. A lot of the emotional reactions to this that ignore the complexities of the situation don't seem to realise it's not always the economy versus lives. The economy IS lives.
Anyway, not sticking my flag in the ground on either side, just thinking out loud I guess. Interesting times.
I think another important question is what to expect from the forthcoming recession. It will be a different experience to the 2008 one, perhaps. Will it hit harder or will it not be as widespread? Will it be as long lasting? And let's not forget about Brexit which hasn't gone away and is yet to possibly impact the UK and Irish economies.
I'm about as qualified an economist as I am an epidemiologist but conventional wisdom would suggest we are in a better position to jump back out of a recession than we were in 2008-2012, provided these restrictions don't last too long. A lot of the economy is more on hold than completely fucked like it was last time. We are Irish, so we'll encumber ourselves with the usual negative whataboutery, but that's how I choose to read it anyway.
Linerick looking a good possibilty now for the end of August. :)
Maybe belongs in the off-topic thread but as raised here, Govt's expectation is that we'll be back to where we were in 2022 in relation to employment levels and growth. And I don't think the herd immunity will work as WHO said you're not protected from getting re-infected.
I read today that about 2-3% of those who've recovered have developed antibodies. Low figures but it's something to go on at least.
Herd immunity models generally require a vaccine. The amount of people who have been infected with this is actually a tiny percentage of the population. Without a vaccine, herd immunity will take a long, long time and involve a lot of death. At some point, yes, there needs to be a balance with economic interests but restarting the economy involves opening the borders, ports and airports and we're back to square one in terms of containment. It's not going to be an easy one to get right for any country.
This is worth reading
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-52305055
Clutch take a shot at Scooter's championship title
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIhWErtLTe8
Quote from: Juggz on April 22, 2020, 06:56:35 AM
Herd immunity models generally require a vaccine. The amount of people who have been infected with this is actually a tiny percentage of the population. Without a vaccine, herd immunity will take a long, long time and involve a lot of death. At some point, yes, there needs to be a balance with economic interests but restarting the economy involves opening the borders, ports and airports and we're back to square one in terms of containment. It's not going to be an easy one to get right for any country.
This is worth reading
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-52305055
Did u really attach a BBC link? Their news reports are unbearable
I went there, brah.
Maybe I'm being a bit too literal about it, but is this announcement only aimed at 5000+ events.
It doesn't say anything about events less than 5000 being good to go... yet!
As much as I hate to say it, but it could be like when the restrictions were initially imposed and they are just softening blow of the full long term impact.
I agree with you, John. I think this is the new normal for a good while and people are going to need to get their heads around it. Looking at wiki, it's saying the Herd Immunity Threshold for Covid19 is between 29 to 74% of the population. I recall the British saying they needed around 60% to achieve herd immunity when they were sitting on their holes not taking action. That's at least 1,500,000 people in Ireland alone, just to get to 30%. We're officially at 15,652 people infected as of today. There's obviously more to it but it doesn't look like anything is going to happen for a long, long time.
Quote from: Juggz on April 22, 2020, 07:20:39 AM
Clutch take a shot at Scooter's championship title
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIhWErtLTe8
Enjoyed that, even though I don't know their music at all.
https://youtu.be/1qaZRa-oJXg
Nile ,Eamon Dorans 2001
Kill the gig withdrawals for an hour.
Il see your Nile gig and raise you the De Mysteriis concert ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukARfq1sK6s
Quote from: Paul keohane on April 23, 2020, 04:32:42 AM
https://youtu.be/1qaZRa-oJXg
Nile ,Eamon Dorans 2001
Kill the gig withdrawals for an hour.
Is that Chief Spires or Vesano? They look similar. I remember this being on but was only getting into them.
Quote from: open face surgery on April 24, 2020, 05:08:36 PM
Quote from: Paul keohane on April 23, 2020, 04:32:42 AM
https://youtu.be/1qaZRa-oJXg
Nile ,Eamon Dorans 2001
Kill the gig withdrawals for an hour.
Is that Chief Spires or Vesano? They look similar. I remember this being on but was only getting into them.
Spires
I remember hearing it was him but wasn't sure looking at that vid.
I must have missed that gig. I saw the one with Sinister and Gorerotted. Ferocious gig!
Quote from: Eoin McLove on April 24, 2020, 09:19:46 PM
I must have missed that gig. I saw the one with Sinister and Gorerotted. Ferocious gig!
That was the one with Vesano,brilliant gig,probably Niles best front man!
Odds on Brutal Assault? Going stir crazy here looking up ticket prices. I imagine flying to it won't be a problem come August, but the line up might be gutted of a few top acts. Who knows. I'm creaming myself looking at it, though, as a potential post lockdown bash :-\
Quote from: Paul keohane on April 24, 2020, 11:26:35 PM
Quote from: Eoin McLove on April 24, 2020, 09:19:46 PM
I must have missed that gig. I saw the one with Sinister and Gorerotted. Ferocious gig!
That was the one with Vesano,brilliant gig,probably Niles best front man!
I saw them in '03 with Vesano and it was Misery Index and Dew Scented supporting.
Quote from: Airneanach on April 25, 2020, 12:19:47 AM
Odds on Brutal Assault? Going stir crazy here looking up ticket prices. I imagine flying to it won't be a problem come August, but the line up might be gutted of a few top acts. Who knows. I'm creaming myself looking at it, though, as a potential post lockdown bash :-\
I have a ticket for it myself but pretty much resigned to it not going ahead. Would be shit too if it went ahead without certain acts.
There have been some vid updates from the organisers but not sure they give any useful info yet.
I've a ticket for Bloodstock and I'm just waiting for the cancellation announcement at this point. Surely with so many fests pulling the plug on this summer already it's not going to be worth it for any bands to make the effort with so many off days
Quote from: open face surgery on April 25, 2020, 07:12:19 AM
Quote from: Paul keohane on April 24, 2020, 11:26:35 PM
Quote from: Eoin McLove on April 24, 2020, 09:19:46 PM
I must have missed that gig. I saw the one with Sinister and Gorerotted. Ferocious gig!
That was the one with Vesano,brilliant gig,probably Niles best front man!
I saw them in '03 with Vesano and it was Misery Index and Dew Scented supporting.
Aye was at that. Really enjoyed misery index that night.
I do miss having gigs to look forward to in general. I know it's a very minor thing in view of the larger picture at the moment and I understand the very real risks to our health at this time. It's just that it makes getting through a monotonous day or week that much tougher without the carrot on a stick.
In lieu of that I'm making an effort to make all of the little things (cooking, music, going for a stroll or reading) a bit more pleasurable through proper attention and focus.
Please don't take this as me belittling the impact to individuals, family and society of the virus. I've had family members with the virus and I know others on here have too.
Tl, Dr, I miss gigs
Quote from: open face surgery on April 25, 2020, 07:12:19 AM
Quote from: Paul keohane on April 24, 2020, 11:26:35 PM
Quote from: Eoin McLove on April 24, 2020, 09:19:46 PM
I must have missed that gig. I saw the one with Sinister and Gorerotted. Ferocious gig!
That was the one with Vesano,brilliant gig,probably Niles best front man!
I saw them in '03 with Vesano and it was Misery Index and Dew Scented supporting.
Vesano is an absolute slab of a fellow and easily their best front man.
Saw them in 2005 with Dying Fetus supporting and they were still great. I'll always rage a bit that Necrophagist were on that bill but one of them couldn't get into the country (or something to that effect).
Quote from: Ducky on April 25, 2020, 02:23:31 PM
Quote from: open face surgery on April 25, 2020, 07:12:19 AM
Quote from: Paul keohane on April 24, 2020, 11:26:35 PM
Quote from: Eoin McLove on April 24, 2020, 09:19:46 PM
I must have missed that gig. I saw the one with Sinister and Gorerotted. Ferocious gig!
That was the one with Vesano,brilliant gig,probably Niles best front man!
I saw them in '03 with Vesano and it was Misery Index and Dew Scented supporting.
Vesano is an absolute slab of a fellow and easily their best front man.
Saw them in 2005 with Dying Fetus supporting and they were still great. I'll always rage a bit that Necrophagist were on that bill but one of them couldn't get into the country (or something to that effect).
I was at that one too. Pity about necrophagist all right. Was mad to see them. Still a great gig though. Myself and the missus ended up drinking with Nile and Dying Fetus till the wee hours in the venue.
I think that Vesano gig was 2002,Sinister supported,a masterclass!
The one I was at was Nov '03 anyway.
Wonder when Belsonic is going to announce the plug being pulled. Could do with the money back from the maiden show.
And then there's the Rammstein. That was near 90 quid a ticket.
Yeah, most of the other belsonic gigs have been postponed til next June. But then again, most of them is one unknown wanker on the stage moaning. Bit more difficult rearranging a world tour by maiden.
As for Rammstein, who really cares about a bunch of camp Germans dancing about? 😂😂
You wouldn't be saying that if they won the war.
Quote from: Blitzer666 on May 03, 2020, 12:57:11 PM
Yeah, most of the other belsonic gigs have been postponed til next June. But then again, most of them is one unknown wanker on the stage moaning. Bit more difficult rearranging a world tour by maiden.
As for Rammstein, who really cares about a bunch of camp Germans dancing about? 😂😂
Doesn't do it for ya unless they're in uniform and shiny boots eh?
Atheist have just announced a Euro tour for September this year. Seems a bit of a crazy risk in terms of potentially wasted time and effort to take at this stage of things!
Have some faith.
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on May 06, 2020, 09:42:03 PM
Atheist have just announced a Euro tour for September this year. Seems a bit of a crazy risk in terms of potentially wasted time and effort to take at this stage of things!
Anathema did the same.
Monolith fest in Cork rescheduled.
Was on course to catch a few bands live this year that ive wanted to scratch off the list,
Cancer (Monolith fest)
Autopsy (Uk deathfest)
Blood Incantation (Limerick,not cancelled but i expect it to be)
Sligo Whiplash 2020 is cancelled.
Will be back for 2021 with hopefully the same line up.
Brutal Assault gone.
Just got an email that Rammstein is to be rescheduled, no further information than that.
On the smaller end, the pub the wild duck here in Dublin is starting having bands in from August.
20 years ago today,remember this one lads?.Hoping for a 2021 date!
Was one of my first gigs. Stage was tiny and audience were within touching distance of the band. Think that was their Hate Campaign Tour. Caught them in the Voodoo in 2008 for their self-titled album tour and later on that summer in Sydney. Got all albums autographed by Matti and David. Another post reunion visit to these shores would be welcomed when normality starts to return. Hopefully next year.
Quote from: Paul keohane on May 19, 2020, 11:15:00 PM
20 years ago today,remember this one lads?.Hoping for a 2021 date!
Gatherings of 300 allowed here (Switzerland) as of end of May now. Not that I'm really holding out for any major gig action - we might be allowed 300 people but not much use if the rest of Europe can't support a tour.
Still find myself wondering how much social distancing will actually be enforced once all the phases are complete , which looks set at the moment to not be too much of a problem given the bottoming out numbers.
It seems to depend who you talk to. I know the term 'the new norm' is being bandied about a lot, but technically the last phase is in August. Whilst larger gatherings might still be a way off, there's technically no advisory stance or regulations at the moment post August for something the size of, say, a Dolan's gig right?
Maybe it'll come down to your own tolerance and threshold for such gatherings. I know as soon as I can, I'll be back at them and would much rather be bumping shoulders. Life's got to, invariably, go on even if your local gig is only a small part of that in the grand scheme of things.
Airneanach: It seems to depend who you talk to. I know the term 'the new norm' is being bandied about a lot, but technically the last phase is in August. Whilst larger gatherings might still be a way off, there's technically no advisory stance or regulations at the moment post August for something the size of, say, a Dolan's gig right?
As per https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/dd26a8-easing-the-covid-19-restrictions-on-10-august/#cultural-and-social
Indoor recreational venues, such as bowling alleys and bingo halls, can reopen where numbers can be limited, cleaning can be maintained, and social distancing can be complied with.
Pubs, nightclubs and casinos can reopen, where social distancing and strict cleaning can be complied with.
Festivals, events and other social and cultural mass gatherings can take place only in accordance with both indoor and outdoor number restrictions and where social distancing can be complied with.
Joyous scenes if Blood Incantation actually happens the end of August!
Well that clears that up, then. I remember reading detailed breakdowns of the various phases before but clearly I took a pass on the last phase and just assumed it to mean "Everything else on the go now, too." Oh dear.
I have to concede then that at this point it'd be better for the head to just write off 2020 entirely on the gig front, barring some potential increased relaxation of the provisions in place. It's a real shame, and ultimately tempts you into viewpoints that perhaps sound a little brash compared to the higher priority of public health. That's just being stir crazy as well, of course. After a certain point where community transmission is still flatlined you're bound to start wondering "What arbitrary date are you planning where 50 people banging heads is safer than it is right now?"
The gigs are the only thing I proper miss. Nobody in my circle of friends particularly minds the pubs being shut. Few Brown Bears from Aldi out each others backyards is a whole lot more wholesome than the way pubs have become accustomed to fleecing us for years.
Ah well. Glad I started working on a record collection two years prior to this mess. It's a brilliant way to give and get from the scenes you're into. The no fans gig compromises are lovely in theory, but just not for me.
Yeah last weekend I chucked on Sepultura Under Siege in Barca and Kreator in East Berlin for a bit of life, I couldn't bear to watch something without a crowd.
More cold water for thoughts of attending a gig any time soon in Dolan's etc:
The bad news is that your favourite pub is unlikely to reopen if the two-metre physical distancing guidance remains, according to Brian Foley from the Vintners' Federation of Ireland.
"This is because it would reduce capacity by up to 87% of standing customers and 65% of those seated in a typical bar layout. So it would simply not be viable for many pubs to run a business
Clang in the national stadium, for all of what I know. Is going ahead
Just bit on Incineration next year.
I know it's technically a bit of a gamble in these times, but we got the flights on the house with the Ryanair voucher I had in lieu of being able to fly to Download today. Hopefully we'll be good to go by then. The setup looks fantastic and both myself and herself like the blacker end of things so I'm really excited. Emperor and Dark Funeral are high on my extreme bucket list.
So a whole day of the devil's music, a handy stay in Camden and it worked out cheap as chips.
2020 gigs :(
https://twitter.com/DoroOfficial/status/1271942239418269696
Quote from: Juggz on June 14, 2020, 04:23:04 PM
2020 gigs :(
https://twitter.com/DoroOfficial/status/1271942239418269696
Would Doro still get it is what I want to know?
Yes.
Interesting but obviously not practical in terms of touring bands.
Quote from: Juggz on June 14, 2020, 04:23:04 PM
2020 gigs :(
https://twitter.com/DoroOfficial/status/1271942239418269696
Jaysus it's exactly like Pixar's Mater's Tall Tales episode "Heavy Metal Mater" (Cars spin-off).
Quote from: Snare on June 14, 2020, 09:21:44 PM
Quote from: Juggz on June 14, 2020, 04:23:04 PM
2020 gigs :(
https://twitter.com/DoroOfficial/status/1271942239418269696
Jaysus it's exactly like Pixar's Mater's Tall Tales episode "Heavy Metal Mater" (Cars spin-off).
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Have you seen it? Very alike to be fair. Skip to the latter section of this:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KcwT5aFJdx8
Dolans are running 2 of the "drive-in" concerts on the site of the docklands gigs that were due to happen. Gavin james and hermitage green. very non metal but it is definitely something that can be pulled off here. Not something we'll be doing with metal but it is happening in Ireland!
What amazes me is that the way they do these is by having everyone tune in on their car radios so there won't be a big PA there as such!
We ran a poll there asking what peoples thoughts would be on running shows in August. The amount of morons who can't wrap their head around the fact that social distancing is going to be happening is amazing. No- there won't be moshing allowed, if we're even allowed to run shows at all.
Also- forget bands from the US for a while. and Brazil. They will flat out not be able to get here.
The Music Venue Trust here in the UK wrote an open letter to the Government:
https://www.scribd.com/document/466569754/Open-Letter-to-the-UK-Government
I think this was partly based on a survey they had asked people to fill in about their views on venues reopening and gig goers were pessimistic about the wanting to go to a (real, packed in, small venue) gig any time soon.
Quote from: Halo on June 26, 2020, 12:55:34 PM
The Music Venue Trust here in the UK wrote an open letter to the Government:
https://www.scribd.com/document/466569754/Open-Letter-to-the-UK-Government
I think this was partly based on a survey they had asked people to fill in about their views on venues reopening and gig goers were pessimistic about the wanting to go to a (real, packed in, small venue) gig any time soon.
The UK is going to be hit extra hard after this too when Brexit and their new VISA rules come in.
Looks like Vader and Marduk are playing Poland next month.Interesting to see how that one pans out and if other bands will follow.
Revel In Flesh played in Munich the other night, to a restricted, seated (at tables) crowd. Not sure how feasible that approach is in the long run but they seemed happy about it.
Honestly it wouldn't interest me going to watch any metal band in that setting!.
Live gigs are about the band feeding off energy of a packed crowd.Imagine sitting around tables socially distanced at something like Blood incantation in Dolans?.
It'd do me for now. Actually it's probably the way forward for the creaky old bones at this stage
Depends on the kind of gig, for me. Hardcore would look a little daft but black and doom ought to be grand for the local bands. Down here in Cork 90% of the crowds just stand still anyway with their arms folded for most of that stuff anyway, like. The issue is space, then, for most venues. But other than that, theoretically I'd bite the hand off you now to get to sit at some tables with some like minded folks, sipping on a drink bopping my head to some spooky music.
Spooky music :laugh: :laugh:
The way things are going this thread should be called "No gigs til 2022"
Yeah Even things down for next year are still getting me wondering. Ramnestien in June, while still ages away....you just don't know.
Got to keep the faith
Could be the end for some bands that rely on gigs and dont work if they cant work something out and get playing properly again.
Vreid played Oslo 2 weeks ago. Looks strange though, not sure about sitting at a table in front of the stage?? Nice to be able to crack open a few bottles though just the same. Surely not satisfying for a band to perform like this though? A few photos here:
http://www.metalhammer.no/?p=13923
It will be interesting to see the report into the experiments in Germany last week where they tried different scenarios for 3 gigs by some singer songwriter.
Whoever thought we'd miss the hairy damp caress of topless sweaty cunts at gigs? :laugh:
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Gareth Bale can't wait anyway it seems
Quote from: Snare on September 03, 2020, 11:16:00 PM
Gareth Bale can't wait anyway it seems
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All going well on the gig front in The Kingdom.. :abbath:
https://www.irishpost.com/news/kerry-hotel-hosts-concert-for-400-guests-with-no-sign-of-social-distancing-193567
No gigs til 21? Yep. At the very least it seems.
Brutal.
This looks promising. Fingers crossed...
https://www.nme.com/news/music/glastonbury-lawyer-says-2021-festival-is-going-ahead-as-planned-2799543