"Of course like many others our finances and prospects for the summer were devastated by the virus. Cancelling the tour has left us in a lot of debt.
We don't have money anymore.
Not to pay the road crew, the bus company, the merchandise costs. It was all broken by this cancellation.
We cannot get summer jobs in this lockdown period. Therefore We are broke. We all have rent to pay. None of us own homes."
It's a sad state of affairs when a really well-established band has to resort to a Go Fund Me campaign as a casualty of this Covid 19. Fellas well into their 40s talking about not being able to get summer jobs. That is highly depressing read.
https://www.gofundme.com/f/were-home-because-were-home?utm_medium=copy_link&utm_source=customer&utm_campaign=p_lico+share-sheet
I'm more surprised they've racked up over £4,000 in only an hour tbh! There'll be a wave of it now I guess, since virtually every touring band will be in the same boat, including many who are even bigger pulls than Anathema.
They should have stuck to the doom death. That's all I'm saying.
It's only the last coupla albums that their lighter/proggier stuff has annoyed me. But to see a band I've listened to for not far off as long as Metallica etc to be so close to the proverbial breadline is kinda mad to see. I'd have thought they'd all have mortgage-free houses anyway. They do loads of festivals every year, fairly close to top billing, so I'd have thought they'd be comfortable, if not necessarily wealthy. Danny Cavanagh is a bit of a whinger too, so could be making it out to be worse than it is.
Mayhem caught big style too - Meant to start a major US tour (with Abbath) tonight I think but all called off last minute. They're not doing a Gofundme but are asking people to buy the tour merch (they're stuck with thousands of T shirts and -ironically enough - Mayhem face masks). Made the point that the major costs of touring are mostly upfront and they're 70 grand in the hole cancelling at this stage. Still, I'd imagine they can weather it better than most bands as they seem to be doing very well these days (they fly business class!).
Devin Townsend seems to have done alright out of it....
https://www.gofundme.com/f/DevinTownsendSupportTeam
LOL re Mayhem face masks!! Business class = :abbath: is fair surprising
Be interesting to see how creative some bands get and how some may just ask for money and do nothing.
I mean you can't exactly ask for money and sit on your hole and not do anything. ie exactly what Devin is doing.. sticking content up at the same time and not just.. log in 'give us money' and logs back in to check every day how much is there.
Quote from: Aborted on March 20, 2020, 09:50:55 PM
Be interesting to see how creative some bands get and how some may just ask for money and do nothing.
I mean you can't exactly ask for money and sit on your hole and not do anything. ie exactly what Devin is doing.. sticking content up at the same time and not just.. log in 'give us money' and logs back in to check every day how much is there.
Eh? He's already put out two songs and is planning other things
Quote from: Emphyrio on March 20, 2020, 08:03:11 PM
It's only the last coupla albums that their lighter/proggier stuff has annoyed me. But to see a band I've listened to for not far off as long as Metallica etc to be so close to the proverbial breadline is kinda mad to see. I'd have thought they'd all have mortgage-free houses anyway. They do loads of festivals every year, fairly close to top billing, so I'd have thought they'd be comfortable, if not necessarily wealthy. Danny Cavanagh is a bit of a whinger too, so could be making it out to be worse than it is.
Yeah Im shocked its that bad for them as they usually have very healthy crowds at their gigs and thought they would have been somewhat financially comfortable.
Anyone know why Jamie left ?
Probably a dumb question but is there no type of insurance that would mitigate against this. Festivals can get insurance against uncalled for cancellations as far as I'm aware.
Luca turilis rhapsody got massive backlash for starting one!
Quote from: Trev on March 20, 2020, 10:40:01 PM
Quote from: Aborted on March 20, 2020, 09:50:55 PM
Be interesting to see how creative some bands get and how some may just ask for money and do nothing.
I mean you can't exactly ask for money and sit on your hole and not do anything. ie exactly what Devin is doing.. sticking content up at the same time and not just.. log in 'give us money' and logs back in to check every day how much is there.
Eh? He's already put out two songs and is planning other things
Not referring to Anathema specifically, just bands etc in general.
No, I meant Devin has put out two songs already and says he'll be releasing more in the next few weeks, and starting livestreams and podcasts
Quote from: blessed1 on March 21, 2020, 09:40:33 AM
Luca turilis rhapsody got massive backlash for starting one!
Being Italian, not so surprising.
Quote from: Trev on March 21, 2020, 11:51:28 AM
No, I meant Devin has put out two songs already and says he'll be releasing more in the next few weeks, and starting livestreams and podcasts
Oh thought I'd used him as an example in my comment about what is a good way to go about it, clearly forgot that bit ::)
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on March 21, 2020, 12:03:03 PM
Quote from: blessed1 on March 21, 2020, 09:40:33 AM
Luca turilis rhapsody got massive backlash for starting one!
Being Italian, not so surprising.
Their excuse was they didn't realise how bad the situation was back home ha.
I would have though they would be fairly well off money wise.
I was working on that Anathema tour as merch seller.
The tour being pulled was a financial disaster, as I'm sure is no surprise to anyone.
Any bands who got cancelled before setting off were slightly luckier...being able to cancel their bus, no crew wages even for travel days (usually 50% of a working day's rate).
We were in Bilbao on Tuesday 10 March and heard the Vienna and Madrid shows were pulled and at that point I just knew once it started everybody would follow.
Madrid was already sold out - 1,100 tickets. Zurich was on around 1,400 tickets. Budapest about 1,000. So that made it sting even more.
So in Lisbon the next day word came down that we were going home the next day.......and I know that booking all the last minute flights with baggage/instruments to check in came to around €4,000. And cos the German shows were not pulled, the bus had to park up and wait for word on whether it was to be held for Germany or sent back.
That was another two days at around €1,500 a day for the bus.
Disaster. For everyone!
And regarding insurance, I asked the tour manager about this and he said there was no entitlement for insurance companies in a case like this. Falls under Force Majeure
Doro's going to pay?
It's a real shitshow, this will be the breaking of more than a few bands who can't afford to take a hit like this.
Devins on twitch now doing live streams and writing songs with the chats imput.. watching it atm
https://www.twitch.tv/devin_townsend?fbclid=IwAR3rB7vmtcbPWh8vglcgdfJzt3q7FsmbD-OXh16EQQZx-yvg6MhSFamExBI
Over 16k raised.
Anathema asking for money for nothing reeks of desperation. If you're that stuck, get a day job for a year and go back to music when all of this dies down.
Quote from: Killchain on March 31, 2020, 04:12:10 PM
Anathema asking for money for nothing reeks of desperation. If you're that stuck, get a day job for a year and go back to music when all of this dies down.
Yeah, like they'll have absolutely loads of jobs to choose from after this pandemic blows over.
Musicians by and large make almost nothing or sometimes a loss on their recorded output.
Touring will bring in some revenue but even then you'll have some bands literally begging you to buy merch because ticket sales alone just about cover the cost of the tour itself.
I'm not sure if Anathema have done any video casts or released anything like Devin Townsend has done during this but I would like to think they have done something to say thank you for the no doubt much needed funds.
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Quote from: Killchain on March 31, 2020, 04:12:10 PM
Anathema asking for money for nothing reeks of desperation. If you're that stuck, get a day job for a year and go back to music when all of this dies down.
loads of jobs out there at the moment alright...ffsakes
Just looking at the anathema one
65min podcast on 23rd
71 min podcast on 30th
And for some reason they are releasing a video of a performance with Hawkings of a pink floyd song back in 2016.. but not until the 2nd of April.
Unless I
I see Anathema are going to try kick off the tour again in september which seems a bit risky to me as nobody knows if things will be back to normal by then.