Are we all fucked?

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

Speaking of Ireland's dire record of voting the same gobshites in over and over again, The Phoenix shared this archive picture of an issue from 1989 when Gorbachev visited:

[astfgyl]

 

The more things change yeah

[The Demiurge]

White British people only account for about 45% of the population of London at the moment. At what point is there enough?

And what about black British people?

IMO unfettered immigration is a bad thing. Nothing wrong with having that opinion. The dog whistles aren't subtle at all though. Fuck off.

[astfgyl]

I asked that a couple of pages ago re the immigrants here. At what point do they become Irish? Had this conversation with a young polish lad lately and he didn't know the answer.

In related news lately I came across a story that white people were to be banned from Nigerian ads. Must find out if it's true or not because let's be fair everything is exaggerated these days

[hellfire]

White British people only account for about 45% of the population of London at the moment. At what point is there enough?

And what about black British people?

IMO unfettered immigration is a bad thing. Nothing wrong with having that opinion. The dog whistles aren't subtle at all though. Fuck off.

What about them? And the millions of Eastern European whites. I was talking about demographics changes you ignorant little tard.

Here

[Caomhaoin]

White British people only account for about 45% of the population of London at the moment. At what point is there enough?

And what about black British people?

IMO unfettered immigration is a bad thing. Nothing wrong with having that opinion. The dog whistles aren't subtle at all though. Fuck off.

Dog whistles? White British people, as in, the indigenous population. Some lads, you among them, can't help but get their backs up when that fact is uttered. There is nothing remotely dodgy about it. Well, there used not to be, until the whole world lost its marbles.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

Indigenous since when? What's the starting date? Hugeonot descendents, are they in or out like?

[hellfire]

Well done Demiurge. You woke the Shepard. We had finally got him to be quiet for a couple of hours.

[Caomhaoin]

Indigenous since when? What's the starting date? Hugeonot descendents, are they in or out like?

Here we go. If you know your history, and you've proven many times on this board that you do not, that the numbers of French Protestant refugees, over two centuries to both Ireland and Britain is insignificant, both numerically and culturally. Certainly compared to between Windrush (why is the queen of England lauding these people, are they special?) and now, DIVERSITYLAND.

[Caomhaoin]

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[Black Shepherd Carnage]

So, you're not counting the Hugeonot descendents among the indigenous population. Cool. The Normans? Or are Saxon descendents the only real indigenous white British? They weren't the first either. You tell us Kev, if white British, as you claim, refers to the indigenous population, then who's in and who's out? Irish descendents from 150 years ago who consider themselves white British, they have to be out, right? Jesus, this is confusing.

[Caomhaoin]

Well, Britain/ The United Kingdom came into being in 1707 with the union of the English and Scottish parliaments, so that timeframe covers all three of those groups you've mentioned. You could argue it's 1603 with the union of the crowns, but England and Scotland remained separate entities for 104 years, albeit with a common monarch.

Irish and British people are genetically almost indistinguishable, galling as that may be to some.

It's not that complicated, in spite of the cheek reddening ignorance you're displaying.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

Well, Britain/ The United Kingdom came into being in 1707

By that logic, the Indians and West Indians who migrated to England while their native lands were part of the British Empire were as much British subjects as the Irish. Certainly the English neither viewed nor received the Irish as being "their kind" at the time they arrived in the 19th century. The point is that, nonsense assertions about "indigenous population" aside, the term "white British" indicates that, in the eyes (figuratively and literally) of the person using it, children born in Britain to white immigrants are somehow more statistically representative of "Britain" than coloured people (African, Indian, West Indian, Roma, etc., descent) who could be up to fifth generation or more British. Talking about the percent of London's population that is not "white British", as opposed to simply "not British", as an indicator that London is losing its Britishness is racist, intentionally or otherwise. Ask a non-white British person! Even though he hasn't earned it, I can be charitable to someone like hellfire and presume he wasn't intending to be racist BUT the ultimate sources responsible for an Irish lad even having stats defined in that particular way in his head, I would put money on them being white nationalist racist. In the classical BNP sense.

[hellfire]

Financial times you overly excitable dildo. I already posted the damn link. A lot of the reason your posts are so long is because you are lying. It's much easier be brief while telling the truth.

I've made the link a vit clearer for those among us with communist eyesight.

THIS IS THE FT link

You'd like myself and Kev to be the equivalent of the BNP because at least then your ridiculous Marxist positions make sense.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

I'm not a subscriber to the FT so can't read the link. I'm not challenging the statistic. I'm challenging what you're trying to make it mean. (Edit: Just to unpack that, I could be wrong, and that would be great, but I find it difficult to believe that you randomly stumbled upon that article in the FT while perusing its archives from a decade ago.)

It's roughly another 20% on top, by the way, of London's population who are British but not white. And the top three countries that make up the ~35% of London's population that wasn't born British? India (part of the British Empire until 1947), Poland (white, so their kids should be grand, right?), and Ireland.