Are we all fucked?

[jobrok1]

https://youtu.be/lUs6iUpa4U4

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiYuq6Ac3a0

So, looks like war then.

[livingabortion]

Experts appear to have put a number on the climate deadline.  Twelve years to halt the destruction of the environment or there is no turning back.  We might already beyond the point of no return. On top of that we have the advancement in AI which could be a double edged sword- rendering the human workforce obsolete could be viewed from several angles I'm sure.  There was a report on the radio a few years back that described how the Earth's human population appears to cyclically reduce to a ludicrously low number like 300,000 every 30,000 years, so perhaps we are heading back into that cycle of decline.  Is it all hysterical nonsense or are we fucked? It feels good to recycle and do our bit to cut down on plastic waste, carbon emissions etc but is it a waste of time? It seems obvious to me that countries setting targets for 2035 or 2050 are burying their head in the sand,  or just refusing to take the matter seriously,  but maybe I've just been brainwashed.  What are your thoughts? Hype or Armageddon?

Cut your losses, kill yourself. You're going die anyhow so jump before you're pushed.

[Mower Liberation Front]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiYuq6Ac3a0

I prefer the Mega Drive version with the vocals replaced by the screams made by the characters when they get killed.

[livingabortion]

Greenpeace have been saying it for decades, so to have the likes of Great Thunerg and Extinction Rebellion coming along and stating the obvious is a load of bollocks, but they're good for the kiddies I suppose.
We know we have been using too much fossil fuels, we know we have been creating too much waste and causing too much pollution for it to be at a level that could last for long.
The litany of all that we're doing wrong goes on and on and what we are doing to try and make things better is too little too late as we are in a comfortable way of doing things that's nice and profitable and they don't want to upset the apple cart.

Bags For Life and Battery Powered Vehicles are as much use as  balls on a bishop. 
This may sound harsh, but considering what we've known for decades people should have stopped procreating as it would have just been sending generations into a terrible future.

Were Donald Duck'd!.

[Pedrito]

The answer lies in the Western countries along with the more progressive regions investing in technology. The only way we beat climate change etc is through scientific breakthroughs and backing our governments to invest heavily into solving the issue.

I've said it for a long time that Trump is totally right about China on an economic level, but we could extend that environmentally also. The world's biggest polluter which pretends to sign up to all sorts of protocols and agreements but is taking the piss whe  it comes to any implementation. They simply don't care and, like it or not, we need a strong US to push back on them. Are the United States free from blame..no, but they are far ahead of the worst polluters in the world.

So, agreements aren't worth the paper they're written on. The solution lies in technology and investment..people aren't going to go back to the one cow on a farm, going to the well for water approach so it's the only way the mess gets solved.

[Airneanach]

The answer lies in the Western countries along with the more progressive regions investing in technology. The only way we beat climate change etc is through scientific breakthroughs and backing our governments to invest heavily into solving the issue.

I agree with this line of thinking. I also think it handily rubbishes those "But I bet scientists get planes to climate conventions, what about that, huh?" arguments.

I'll be the first to admit that I'm a naive layman in terms of the real science behind climate change, but as far as I can tell the damage has been done too much for all of us to revert back to some mystical agrarian lifestyle. Whilst science and industry polluted our planet, I'm adamant they also hold the keys to our salvation.

The world mightn't ever look as green again, but we have to continue pushing the envelope with technological advancements. I love themes and tropes pertaining to us becoming out own gods through scientific enquiry. The world is indeed fucked, so we may as well go about building and conquering new ones.

Reversing trends and lifestyles on a macroscopic level is preposterous, and a sure fire way to disenfranchise Joe Soap. The solutions lie in improving and advancing existing progress. And somehow keeping in check and mediating the small percentage of lunatic industries who do most of the polluting, of course.

[The Butcher]

Chinese Co2 emissions have dropped by over 25% with most of the country on lockdown...so just about 75% Co2 required just to have most of the country idling, not making much, people in their homes using heating/electricity etc...so how do you have a meaningful reduction in Co2? 🤔


https://time.com/5786634/coronavirus-carbon-emissions-china/

[Necro Lord]

I just want society to collapse already so I can go live in the woods and not get bothered by the government.

[Eoin McLove]

Why not just go and live in the woods?

[Eoin McLove]

Earth Hour tonight between 8.30 and 9.30. Going to turn everything off and save the world. You're welcome. Seriously though, anyone else joining in the gesture?

On a separate but related note, I wonder what sort of positive side effects the Corona Virus is having on the world's environment. I saw a headline about the hole in the ozone layer healing itself and there have been reports about the air quality in China improving and the water in the canals in Venice becoming cleaner. Might be something to keep in mind as our brains get a bit melty during lockdown.

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On a separate but related note, I wonder what sort of positive side effects the Corona Virus is having on the world's environment. I saw a headline about the hole in the ozone layer healing itself and there have been reports about the air quality in China improving and the water in the canals in Venice becoming cleaner. Might be something to keep in mind as our brains get a bit melty during lockdown.

Good call

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

So y'all missed the news of the EPA lifting all water and air pollution regulations for all businesses during the crisis? USA! USA!

[astfgyl]

I was waiting for all of the weird shit to start going on while our backs are turned. There will be a lot more of this

[Eoin McLove]

Fuck.