Are we all fucked?

[Pedrito]

Should just start eating eachother 

[Eoin McLove]

Are you asking me out?

[The Butcher]

I agree with all the sentiments involved here. I'd love to see battery tech improve to the point where you only need a few solar panels and some battery storage and that's you off grid. Single use plastics? Yeah get rid. Electric cars? Yeah sure  I don't want to be breathing in those fumes. Lab plant based meat? Another great idea to get people to switch (tried the impossible burger and it was surprisingly great, the beyondmeat one was terrible).

The climate action plan for Ireland is laughable though...nothing can touch the agri sector which is the main source of emissions here. Carbon tax not ringfenced for any green initiatives like retrofitting or electric charging points?!

All this is grand but it pales in insignificance to the US/China machine (and soon to be India). Just us plebs getting taxed and jobs will be lost to automation is a whole different story that we aren't prepared for. I don't see anything down the tracks to stop them. What will be will be.

[The Butcher]

double post

[Pedrito]

Are you asking me out?

well we wouldn't be short on pillow talk   

[Emphyrio]

The climate action plan for Ireland is laughable though...nothing can touch the agri sector which is the main source of emissions here. Carbon tax not ringfenced for any green initiatives like retrofitting or electric charging points?!

And that's the nub of the problem in Ireland. Really regressive measures, the government passing the buck on to the consumer, riding the crest of a green wave but doing it utterly back-arseways. And trying to curry favour with those who are environmentally conscious, they're likely to now bring about more protests, a la the water charges fiasco, because no thought has been put into it.

Agriculture got away very, very lightly in the programme, especially considering the impact of that sector.

[Scáthach]

Yeah, taxing is not a way out of this, especially when the most polluting sectors (beef farming, transport and aerospace) are getting somewhat of a pass. Then again I'm naturally geared towards pessimism so let's fiddle while Rome burns. (or play the lyre)

[Ducky]

We're totally fucked.

Big ol' industrialised nations have become far too comfortable with their standard of living, which isn't sustainable.

Smaller places like Ireland are socially fucked too because all the retail jobs/town centres are being killed off by streaming services and the giant online retailers like Amazon. Then AI and increased automation will nuke lots of manufacturing jobs.

[Mr Moonlight]

We are all fucked, but it's grand. Earth won't miss us, and neither will we.

About right

[Scáthach]

Always reminded of something Attenborough said, to the effect that should the insects die, all other life on the planet would collapse. Should humanity perish, the rest of life on earth would get along quite well. Attenborough, the original black metal misanthrope.

[Mr Moonlight]

Abbath-enborough

[Makeshiftatomsmasher]

What's really depressing, but not surprising, is knowing how fucked we are, trying your best to be as eco as you can, then watch this.
https://youtu.be/Pe42q8ZmjGU

[jobrok1]

Fucking Hell...  No wonder we're all bollixed.

[Rodge]

I'm must admit to being something of a climate skeptic...

Here's a bunch of predictions scientists were making in 1970.. Pretty much on the same scale as Nostradamus himself!!

http://www.aei.org/publication/18-spectacularly-wrong-predictions-made-around-the-time-of-first-earth-day-in-1970-expect-more-this-year-2/

[Trev]

I'm must admit to being something of a climate skeptic...

Here's a bunch of predictions scientists were making in 1970.. Pretty much on the same scale as Nostradamus himself!!

http://www.aei.org/publication/18-spectacularly-wrong-predictions-made-around-the-time-of-first-earth-day-in-1970-expect-more-this-year-2/

I'd be pretty certain the technology available now for making predictions is a bit more reliable now than in 1970 though