Are we all fucked?

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

Okay. But just so you know that the video with Leonard Nimoy, which spurred you into a spiel about "cuntology", was already a minority belief when it was aired, due to progress in science which you are free to poo-poo as you wish. The rationale for doing so escapes me tbh, as it would almost require that the robustness of science in every other discipline was being used as a cover for this one narrative, which I guess is why stuff like this is popular with flat earthers, since they'd have no problem believing that. As they form their online communities using phones that have built-in GPS devices. Who knows, maybe in 200 years people will share clips from Ancient Aliens to try and say that in the 21st century the belief was that aliens had built the pyramids and directed evolution 

[astfgyl]

Okay. But just so you know that the video with Leonard Nimoy, which spurred you into a spiel about "cuntology", was already a minority belief when it was aired, due to progress in science which you are free to poo-poo as you wish. The rationale for doing so escapes me tbh, as it would almost require that the robustness of science in every other discipline was being used as a cover for this one narrative, which I guess is why stuff like this is popular with flat earthers, since they'd have no problem believing that. As they form their online communities using phones that have built-in GPS devices. Who knows, maybe in 200 years people will share clips from Ancient Aliens to try and say that in the 21st century the belief was that aliens had built the pyramids and directed evolution 

No not just this one discipline, it's all of them. Infected by money.

I do thank the stars that I've a counterpoint in you in general and please don't ever change

Edit: Cuntology: the sciences of cunting

[astfgyl]

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/rte-news-boss-apologises-for-broadcaster-not-linking-recent-extreme-weather-events-to-climate-change/40692616.html

There ye go

Spastics.

Weaponising good weather and anyone who buys in is retarded

[Hellyeah]

Agreed. Was doing a delivery last week and as all good drivers do "got chatting about the weather" to said customer are you enjoying.
Response " no not enjoying at all, this climate change is terrible"
I can't believe people, if your that worried about your carbon footprint and all that bollix just kill yourself.

[Eoin McLove]

Hot weather in summer. What next- cold weather in winter?! We're all doomed 

I am still on the fence on this one,  surprise, surprise. I think this sort of scare mongering bullshit is ridiculous and doesn't really offer a solution other than raising people's stress levels and possibly contributing to people deciding not to have kids, which could pose other sorts of problems down the line for society.

I do believe that climate change is real and I do think something needs to be done, but I think it is being done in the places where it may actually make a difference. Electric cars and renewable energy, while currently imperfect, should in time help to reduce emissions.

The worry is that it's too late whatever we do. There might be a reasonable humanitarian argument to be made for western countries to help to engineer cities in developing countries, to defend them from the fallout of rising sea levels, which seems to be the major concern.

As always anything that can be done to protect and conserve wildlife in all forms, regardless of climate change, should be made paramount.

But putting the shits up people over a heat wave is just bullshit. Ireland is no stranger to occasional bouts of extreme weather.

[hellfire]

The oversell by people who are outright lying about everything else is the only thing that raised any suspicion on my part. Like everything else these days there is probably a point in there somewhere. Wading through the river of nonsense and hysteria to get at it has proved entirely too difficult though.

[Caomhaoin]

Agreed. Unless you agree wholesale with the current gospels, you are a heretic, skepticism is nazism.

Covenanting Calvinists in 16th and 17th century Scotland (total fanatics) have nothing on the current wankers decreeing to you and I.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

Covenanting Calvinists in 16th and 17th century Scotland (total fanatics) have nothing on the current wankers decreeing to you and I.

I must have missed the news of torture and beheadings of climate skeptics 

Difficult balance to strike, regarding reporting on the weather. Living somewhere where the increasing heat is tangible in a far from comfortable way for a lengthening amount of time every year, it's maybe a little different. Several meteorologists here last year were ripping into the media for not talking about global warming while talking about it being great beach weather at the same time that forests for miles and miles around were uncontrollably ablaze. Unsurprisingly though, I see reporting of climate conditions as similar to how immigration, housing, COVID, etc., has been reported: in a way that skims over the deep underlying aggravating causes, most of which are tied up, directly or indirectly, with sponsorship and advertising deals between whichever media and whichever industries, including financial institutions. Personally, I do believe that there is a certain significant margin of life-threatening climate activity which is under human control (for the worse, as things stand). But human in this case can be too easily used to cloud over the industrial aspect. The average Paddy being made feel guilty for enjoying a day at the beach in June is not going to help move things in the right direction if our concept of "the right direction" reduces to "Sort out your recycling properly Paddy, the planet's burning!"

Beyond the activists, take a look at who else is paying attention to climate change:
https://www.rte.ie/news/environment/2023/0601/1386813-climate-change-tourism/

This article here, from June 1st, is one of those occasions where someone lets the cat out of the bag in terms of bottom-dollar candidness:

One such sector where opportunities will arise is tourism. The fact that Europe is warming twice as fast as Ireland means that the risk of extreme weather events in Europe - during the summer months in particular - are growing twice as fast as in Ireland.

That means far greater risks of a family summer to Europe being ruined by extreme heat, forest fires, flash flooding, and other climate disasters. It also means that many European holiday makers will be on the lookout for some relatively cool weather during the peak summer months. Where better to come then, than Ireland?

Fáilte Ireland, which is responsible for promoting Ireland as a tourist destination for domestic and international holidaymakers, has its eyes firmly on this prize and is beginning to recognise that climate change could have some positive benefits for its sector.

This kind of always and forever focus on virtual profit, regardless of what's happening to the physical, material resources we actually rely on as a biological species, this is the mentality that has put us in this situation. Think about it: we live on an island, the vast majority of tourists arrive by air, i.e. the worst mode of transport for the atmosphere, yet projecting into a future where the atmosphere will already be measurably less welcoming to our own life-form than it is now, those who stand to profit are already preparing to promote increased air transport.

In short, enjoy your day at the beach, and when you get home in the evening, think about how you can help topple capitalism 

[hellfire]

Agreed. Unless you agree wholesale with the current gospels, you are a heretic, skepticism is nazism.

Covenanting Calvinists in 16th and 17th century Scotland (total fanatics) have nothing on the current wankers decreeing to you and I.

Yeah,it's protected along with the other commandments of our lord and saviour woke. heresy

[Caomhaoin]

'Extreme weather events'. What is this daft cunt even on about.

[hellfire]

In a country that recently overturned the presumption of innocence who knows anymore.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

Yeah, scientifically defined concepts, fuckin' woke bollocks! 

[Caomhaoin]

Yeah, good man, thanks.

Trust the science folks.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

Any time someone talks about extreme weather events it's objectively possible to state whether the use is accurate or inaccurate without resorting to mocking the term itself. It's just a question of probabilities.

[Caomhaoin]

Yeah but the language is inappropriate for the average viewer. A hurricane is an extreme weather event for the regular punter, not a heat wave.