What would you like to see more of at shows?

[Yung Led Zeppelin]

Quote from: Jward on April 02, 2025, 07:13:52 PM
  Allow a band play an extra song if the crowd give a rapturous response/roar

Quote from: open face surgery on April 02, 2025, 07:50:08 PM
  Defeats the purpose of giving set times.


How does playing 1 song as a 'proper' encore defeat the purpose of stage times?
- Band has started as planned
- Band play a stormer
- Crowd love it
- "We want more! We want more!"
---- let them play another f*cking tune ffs!

Go home if you want, as governed by the pre-ordained stage times
All you'll miss is the crowd/band soaking up the final remnants of a great gig

Because changeover times are already tight as it is, even when everything is going right.

[Pentagrimes]

Will never understand how they landed that, industry wankers

Get over it for fucks sake.

[Eoin McLove]

   fuck sake.

[Maggot Colony]

Strangers With Grudges

[Jward]

Quote from: Jward on April 02, 2025, 07:13:52 PM
  Allow a band play an extra song if the crowd give a rapturous response/roar

Quote from: open face surgery on April 02, 2025, 07:50:08 PM
  Defeats the purpose of giving set times.


How does playing 1 song as a 'proper' encore defeat the purpose of stage times?
- Band has started as planned
- Band play a stormer
- Crowd love it
- "We want more! We want more!"
---- let them play another f*cking tune ffs!

Go home if you want, as governed by the pre-ordained stage times
All you'll miss is the crowd/band soaking up the final remnants of a great gig

Because changeover times are already tight as it is, even when everything is going right.

I know
I'm more on about venues allowing 4 minutes at the end of the gig
I know bands need to pack up, and venue staff want to get home/go out

Sometimes it would be nice to hear a bit more

[Jward]

Bring back Woodstock, where it could finish at 11:00am !!! 

[Yung Led Zeppelin]

Quote from: Jward on April 02, 2025, 07:13:52 PM
  Allow a band play an extra song if the crowd give a rapturous response/roar

Quote from: open face surgery on April 02, 2025, 07:50:08 PM
  Defeats the purpose of giving set times.


How does playing 1 song as a 'proper' encore defeat the purpose of stage times?
- Band has started as planned
- Band play a stormer
- Crowd love it
- "We want more! We want more!"
---- let them play another f*cking tune ffs!

Go home if you want, as governed by the pre-ordained stage times
All you'll miss is the crowd/band soaking up the final remnants of a great gig

Because changeover times are already tight as it is, even when everything is going right.

I know
I'm more on about venues allowing 4 minutes at the end of the gig
I know bands need to pack up, and venue staff want to get home/go out

Sometimes it would be nice to hear a bit more

Yeah, totally depends on the venue/situation really. Some venues are stricter than others, some events are really under pressure with regulations they have to stick to, you'll get hassle or maybe even fined (as if the margins aren't thin enough) if you take liberty with it.

I've had to shut off the PA and tear down in front of 400 angry people because we were already 15 minutes over and the festival would have been in pretty serious shit if we just disregarded the prerequisites for the event to happen. You have to compromise to sustain it. That one was a real case of see ye in 7 hours to do another 18 hour day of it, you ungrateful cunts 

[Evaninka]

You know what he means, 4mins will hardly throw off indicative stage times.

with 15 minute changeover for supports 4 minutes then leaves a band 11 minutes which bring the next band on late which then brings the whole thing on late

No issues with one more tune for headliners but not with supports. That's my rule anyway. Supports have a very specific allotted time and fuck acting and going over your set time then cuts into the headliners

[Yung Led Zeppelin]

Exactly and I don't think some people realise any delays are both cumulative, and one only take away from a total - you do not get that time back unless you really really push to get everything else moving faster.

Although, was on a festival crew before who managed to turn a 2 hour delay starting the day (perfect storm of mad tech issues and artists not showing up on time for sound check) to back on schedule about halfway through, without cutting anyone's sets. Fairly fucking smug about that one we were, lol

[Evaninka]

actually love when local bands engage in banter and there is back and forth with people they know

Christ can think of nothing worse.

Also can't stand when a local band gets a support to a touring act and goes on and on about what a privilege it is to support such legends when they clearly hadn't heard of said band until they got the call to do the show.

Case in point the art students supporting Jesus Lizard the other month

Will never understand how they landed that, industry wankers

Promoter sent a list of support requests. Jesus Lizard and their management chose them. I've no idea where you'd get an industry plant from haha

[StrangersWithGuns]

actually love when local bands engage in banter and there is back and forth with people they know

Christ can think of nothing worse.

Also can't stand when a local band gets a support to a touring act and goes on and on about what a privilege it is to support such legends when they clearly hadn't heard of said band until they got the call to do the show.

Case in point the art students supporting Jesus Lizard the other month

Will never understand how they landed that, industry wankers

Promoter sent a list of support requests. Jesus Lizard and their management chose them. I've no idea where you'd get an industry plant from haha

I didn't go as far as saying plants, Duane venison wrote back to me saying they just left these things to the local promoters, so was some sort of pre existing relationship in play

[StoutAndAle]

Duane venison wrote back to me

Oh deer.


There were different supports for the two Dublin Jesus Lizard show, right?

I'm not sure to which band you are referring.

Or are you taking umbrage with both?

[Pagan Saviour]

The Art Students that supported on the first night. Can't remember their name - they were god awful to be fair.

Having said that, it's luck of the draw with the support slots - you win some you lose some. No big deal.

[StrangersWithGuns]

Duane venison wrote back to me

Oh deer.


There were different supports for the two Dublin Jesus Lizard show, right?

I'm not sure to which band you are referring.

Or are you taking umbrage with both?

They both supported both nights, swapped who was opening in Belfast

[Mower Liberation Front]

Bands taking a decent amount of XXL shirts along to sell.