If I weren't so busy quaffing champagne and grooming my luscious pubes, I'd drop home and vote strategically for whichever local option would best contribute to the first proper Dail shake-up in a century, because more than anything else that imo is what the country, and certainly its complacent FFG political class, needs.

I agree, but there's fuck all doing here in tipp that would constitute a shake up. Last time out I voted for the shinners but I just can't bring myself to do it this time. Of all the parties, SF have let me down the most with their absolutely pathetic performance as the strongest opposition. I would have loved for them to be a feasible alternative, I really would.

If we get FFG again I'm going to shave off my pubes in protest

Quote from: Carnage on November 23, 2024, 11:56:13 AMHe's all contrition today because of the backlash, wants to meet her and 'engage'. Damage limitation, it's Gordon Brown and the "awful woman". Sure the FG cult will excuse him for it all day.

Could they not have found somebody who wasn't an absolute wanker, to provide this new energy? Like fuck it's a joke. These cunts are definitely living in a bubble.

Saying that though, the only thing more shit than what we have is the absolute lack of a credible alternative.

Fully agree with the Shepherd that the whole thing needs a shake up but I can't see how we'll get it.

Sure it's on brand. Varadkar was worse, completely out of touch with the reality of life for people who didn't have doddy's money behind them all their life. He played the role of a caring yet patronising Führer, whereas the current cabbage can't even be bothered to do that much. The gaslighting cunt.

Quote from: astfgyl on November 23, 2024, 04:49:22 PMIf we get FFG again I'm going to shave off my pubes in protest

As this will indeed happen, I'm happy to get you a post shave balm for your bollox.

Quote from: Emphyrio on November 23, 2024, 07:13:10 PM
Quote from: astfgyl on November 23, 2024, 04:49:22 PMIf we get FFG again I'm going to shave off my pubes in protest

As this will indeed happen, I'm happy to get you a post shave balm for your bollox.

Yeah I've the feeling I'll be needing it  :'(

Looks like Aontu have shot themselves Sinn Fèin style on the nationalism front with Toibìn saying he wanted to tackle ethno-nationalism head on and it has no place etc etc. He'd have been as well off to skirt around that one, even though I get what he's saying and broadly agree.

He will have lost a fair few potential votes to the National Party and The Judean People's Front with that comment.

It's the biggest mistake Sinn Fèin made, not taking into account how many of their voter base were still associating them with the IRA and freedom from foreign invasion and so on, even though they haven't changed tack on their immigration stance at all that I can see - they still should have done their homework on who it is that votes for them and tried not to antagonise them.

Ah well, hard luck Peadar and Mary Lou...

Remember to get out and vote today  y'all.  :)

I agree with pretty much all of your contributions there lads. Astfgyl, when's the new stand-up show or podcast? Some great one liners! 😜

Id love to see a shake up as Shepherd said but realistically I can see FF/FG doing well for several reasons. One being a lot of voters across different age groups but mostly older, not having read a line of any manifestos will vote FF/FG as if the candidate is an independent because "Ah he's a grand fella". There's Nimbyism and also someone mentioned a great point earlier in the thread, that some people are secretly delighted with their lot and want this to continue. I think that's definitely true.

Long story short:
More of the same with Labour/Aontú in place of greens.

Quote from: astfgyl on November 27, 2024, 08:59:33 PMLooks like Aontu have shot themselves Sinn Fèin style on the nationalism front with Toibìn saying he wanted to tackle ethno-nationalism head on and it has no place etc etc. He'd have been as well off to skirt around that one, even though I get what he's saying and broadly agree.

He will have lost a fair few potential votes to the National Party and The Judean People's Front with that comment.

It's the biggest mistake Sinn Fèin made, not taking into account how many of their voter base were still associating them with the IRA and freedom from foreign invasion and so on, even though they haven't changed tack on their immigration stance at all that I can see - they still should have done their homework on who it is that votes for them and tried not to antagonise them.

Ah well, hard luck Peadar and Mary Lou...

Peadar already did that during the local elections the week of he came out and said anyone who had any issues with the refugees getting a vote was a racist. Mary Lou has said over and over again that it's our duty to look after those that come here looking handouts. Sinn Fein were also all for the hate speech bill then back tracked on it a few months ago when they realised how unpopular it was and tried to claim they had been against it from day one. Then of course they did nothing when it was pushed through last month.

It's just sad that the next 5 years is going to be more of the same and people just happily accept it. Imagine what state the country will be in by the time the next election comes around.

The best we can hope for in this election is that cunt McEntee and the prick O'Gorman are both gone. Too many people in Ireland with short memories and no interest whatsoever in looking properly into who they are voting for. Once they have that can of larger and the Champions league life is all good.

Was chatting to my Latvian workmate today and she says to me fuck sake I'm getting so sick of dealing with foreigners all day :laugh:

I asked her if she could vote but she isn't a citizen and doesn't want to be and thinks non citizens shouldn't be voting because it's not their country. She has been here 13 years. Thought it was interesting to hear it from that perspective. I don't think refugees should be able to vote tbh, shaping the policies in a country where they are guests, but the political parties don't seem to see it that way at all. I know they're not saying that for any decent reason so I think it's just that they're making money off it and could buy a few votes at the same time.

I hear a lot of people where I am say they're going to go independent, as I am myself in a few minutes but there isn't a great choice here really and lots of new faces that I know nothing about so yeah I'm with Mick on this one, nothing will change in any meaningful way.

This was the most scuppered I've been trying to decide who to vote for. On paper all parties have stuff I align with but by the same token, they all have policies I completely disagree with. On paper, FFG would be closest aligned but because they're such sheisters, I couldn't in good conscience have them up near the top. Independents here are also either nobodies or right wing fuckin galahs so voted mostly left wing-ish.

Won't count a jot, of course, but you're not entitled to complain unless you exercise your vote.

Went in a couple of hours ago, nobody around. Turnout seems to be low around the country, ~40%.

Met one of the candidates at the door, two people I met since have said she was there at different times. So much for the 300m exclusion zone.

I went independent almost all the way in the end, other than givingthe 3rd choice to the Sinn Fèin chap that I told not to come near me this time out.

There wasn't a single right wing straight up racism candidate in my constituency. Wouldn't have voted for them anyway, same as in the locals and euros. Chatting to a few people down the polling station and all seemed to be going independent, which will likely see us back at the booths again before we know it, such is the state of things. There seemed to be a feeling of resignation and defeat among the voters, as if all they could do was stop the parties forming a government rather than change anything in any meaningful way

Talking to the workers and they said they were getting the same feeling and that the turnout was only so so as well, so that backs up what I was thinking, that there was nothing to excite anyone at the end of the day and the turnout would be low as a result. In 2020 at least we had Sinn Fèin giving us a hope of change but that's long dead after their performance in opposition.

Quote from: Emphyrio on November 29, 2024, 07:19:56 PMWon't count a jot, of course, but you're not entitled to complain unless you exercise your vote.

That's the part that bugs me. People fucking banging on cribbing about things but none of them getting off their holes and even doing the most basic thing. Didn't see any of the local hardcore unemployed there at all