Quote from: Count Magnus on June 28, 2024, 09:14:00 AMI remember being captivated by the drumming on this when I saw the music video on Headbanger's Ball. Sandoval is a fucking beast.


First Morbid Angel track I ever heard. Instant obsession with them  :laugh:  :abbath:

All the rototom madness on Pleasure to Kill is the first thing that came to mind


Quote from: Eoin McLove on June 29, 2024, 10:44:41 AMThe modern tech dudes sitting there with headphones on, almost entirely still while they do incredible things behind the kit... it jars. I want to see a drummer fucking kill it. Lombardo was a beast. Even watching Lars, despite his limitations as a technician, is a hundred times more entertaining than watching a YouTube shredder.

I was watching the Seattle 89 show again lately. What he lacked in ability he definitely made up for in enthusiasm. Which has been my criticism of him in recent years. Nobody is looking for him to be George Kollias, but Christ man, stop riding the snare, stick on a couple of more toms and have a rattle around the kit.

That show is monumental. Even if it's overdubbed to shit, I don't care. It's unreal.

Quote from: Eoin McLove on June 29, 2024, 07:57:22 AM
Quote from: Bürggermeister on June 29, 2024, 04:46:57 AMModern drumming ability has overshone it a little but, back in the day, the bass drum bit was the most amazing fucking thing ever


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TnRZhLRv6eM

I don't think modern technical drumming outshines peak Lombardo. Ben listening to South of Heaven a bit recently for the first time in decades and his playing is spectacular. It's clean, super heavy and full of character. The production is pristine too. 

I agree here. Lombardo was one of the first of the more "extreme" drummers I've ever heard, and that set my stall out in terms of wants; ability backed up by taste and character. A lot of modern drummers lack the latter two things for sure.

Gene Hoglan is interesting as he seems to have an on/off switch. His playing with say Death and Dark Angel occupy that same space as Lombardo, but he can also do the "I'm a human click track" thing and play with much less feeling like he does with Fear Factory and SYL.

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Quote from: Ducky on June 29, 2024, 11:14:19 AM
Quote from: Eoin McLove on June 29, 2024, 07:57:22 AM
Quote from: Bürggermeister on June 29, 2024, 04:46:57 AMModern drumming ability has overshone it a little but, back in the day, the bass drum bit was the most amazing fucking thing ever


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TnRZhLRv6eM

I don't think modern technical drumming outshines peak Lombardo. Ben listening to South of Heaven a bit recently for the first time in decades and his playing is spectacular. It's clean, super heavy and full of character. The production is pristine too. 

I agree here. Lombardo was one of the first of the more "extreme" drummers I've ever heard, and that set my stall out in terms of wants; ability backed up by taste and character. A lot of modern drummers lack the latter two things for sure. Think I heard Danny Herrera for the first time shortly afterwards, and his playing was cool but very much lacking in Lombardo's zest.

Gene Hoglan is interesting as he seems to have an on/off switch. His playing with say Death and Dark Angel occupy that same space as Lombardo, but he can also do the "I'm a human click track" thing and play with much less feeling like he does with Fear Factory and SYL.

Some of my faves here...not too into the overly produced sound of David Diepold etc even though he's amazing...so I really like the guys that mix craziness and accuracy with a natural production:

Totally natural sound real jazzy

Dobber Beverly - seems to add more strokes into every fill or roll, amazingly smooth

John Engman...

Quote from: Mithrandir on June 29, 2024, 10:56:05 AMAll the rototom madness on Pleasure to Kill is the first thing that came to mind



What ever awards the Germans give out to the arts nowadays, surely it's time for a lifetime achievement to the majestic Roto Toms for services to music!

The bit starting about two minutes in where Hoglan starts in half-time and then bumps it up for the second half, it transforms the riff completely. Lovely work.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XlcApCaBvJM


Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on June 29, 2024, 10:53:48 AM
Quote from: Count Magnus on June 28, 2024, 09:14:00 AMI remember being captivated by the drumming on this when I saw the music video on Headbanger's Ball. Sandoval is a fucking beast.


First Morbid Angel track I ever heard. Instant obsession with them  :laugh:  :abbath:

Same here. This and Hypocrisy's 'Pleasure of Molestation' music video were revelatory. They sounded unhinged especially in comparison with shite like The Almighty and Pro-Pain.


Very surprised to see no mention of Darkside from Mgla here - in a world of clinical high speed blasters he makes things much more interesting. His skills aren't necessarily immediately apparent on listening (for a non drummer anyway) - it's when you watch him you see the magic. Have a look particularly from 6:30 on:


But hey, I like the blasters as much as the next guy too! David Diepold is inhuman:


But of the young Turks I reckon my #1 is Simon Schilling:


JP from Clutch is the man! The fact he does it all while his facial expressions look like a freshly caught carp makes him all the more entertaining.

Quote from: The Ancient Ones on July 02, 2024, 03:47:36 PMVery surprised to see no mention of Darkside from Mgla here - in a world of clinical high speed blasters he makes things much more interesting. His skills aren't necessarily immediately apparent on listening (for a non drummer anyway) - it's when you watch him you see the magic. Have a look particularly from 6:30 on:

The intro to Exercises in Futility II is the absolute business.