I read the Rolling Stone interview just now. It's hard to know if he is so used to being KK that he can't stop.

Slayer were never a band that made any attempt to grow up with their audience. They always seemed to aim for a fresh batch of impressionable teens with each release, hence why they were frozen in a creative state of perpetual clichés. This is no different as it's aimed at teenagers and/ or auld lads that are mentally still teenagers.

And sure look there's heaps of bands doing the Show No Mercy style stuff nowadays anyway.

#78 February 05, 2024, 01:42:41 PM Last Edit: February 05, 2024, 01:46:58 PM by Pentagrimes
Quote from: Anton Arcane on February 05, 2024, 12:55:37 PMSlayer were never a band that made any attempt to grow up with their audience. They always seemed to aim for a fresh batch of impressionable teens with each release, hence why they were frozen in a creative state of perpetual clichés. This is no different as it's aimed at teenagers and/ or auld lads that are mentally still teenagers.

Bit of a side bar here, just as you've nailed something that I've been thinking about a lot over the last year or so - Objectively you could argue this point for a whole lot of underground metal , in that by its' constantly backwards looking nature it's only gonna ever be of interest to people who are either new to it and haven't yet "learned the rules", or people who are nostalgic for days gone by and can't quite. It's fine like, but it's a thing I find increasingly uninteresting about a lot of current death/black/grind whatever stuff currently - punk/hardcore is even more guilty, to an almost insufferable level too - I'd rather reach for a 90s demo at this stage than a band imitating a 90s demo.

All a matter of personal taste obviously, and it's not about wether that's a good or bad thing. I'm the same myself to a degree.

Anyway,this sounds exactly like I thought it would sound, and the only shock is why someone as talented as Mark Osgueda is reducing himself to doing a Tom Arya impersonation. He's the one element that could have added something unexpected.

It's just pure 'recent' slayer, still knocks the balls of most of the shite that's around. Obviously none of u would go see him if he played limelight, too metal.
Tho calling it Kerry king is pretty gay.

Jaysus, that's some predictably derivative shite for sure.

KK - chugging cans in the streets, chugging riffs in the sheets.

Quote from: Anton Arcane on February 05, 2024, 12:55:37 PMSlayer were never a band that made any attempt to grow up with their audience. They always seemed to aim for a fresh batch of impressionable teens with each release, hence why they were frozen in a creative state of perpetual clichés. This is no different as it's aimed at teenagers and/ or auld lads that are mentally still teenagers.

Don't agree with this in the slightest. Huge difference between, say, South of Heaven and Reign in Blood. Even more so if you compare Seasons with Show No Mercy. They 'progressed' as far as possible within the limits of that style of music. Metallica tried to grow with their audience, and that's the precise reason they received so much of a backlash over the years. You can't win really.

What both have in common though, is that their later material is just so bog standard, uninspired, going through the motions stuff. There's a certain kind of idiotic metal die-hard, that laps up this kind of derivative slop without question. It's not that this music is backward-thinking...it's just shit.

It's poor as expected .

Shit riffs ,shouty angry vocal .

Angsty Slayer never did anything for me .

But he will sell alot of records and that's what this is about at the end of the day .

It's not born from a desire to express anything other than what Slayer have been peddling for years .

#83 February 05, 2024, 03:51:08 PM Last Edit: February 05, 2024, 03:53:22 PM by Anton Arcane
Quote from: John Kimble on February 05, 2024, 03:19:30 PM
Quote from: Anton Arcane on February 05, 2024, 12:55:37 PMSlayer were never a band that made any attempt to grow up with their audience. They always seemed to aim for a fresh batch of impressionable teens with each release, hence why they were frozen in a creative state of perpetual clichés. This is no different as it's aimed at teenagers and/ or auld lads that are mentally still teenagers.

Don't agree with this in the slightest. Huge difference between, say, South of Heaven and Reign in Blood. Even more so if you compare Seasons with Show No Mercy. They 'progressed' as far as possible within the limits of that style of music. Metallica tried to grow with their audience, and that's the precise reason they received so much of a backlash over the years. You can't win really.

What both have in common though, is that their later material is just so bog standard, uninspired, going through the motions stuff. There's a certain kind of idiotic metal die-hard, that laps up this kind of derivative slop without question. It's not that this music is backward-thinking...it's just shit.

I would argue that from, and including, Seasons In The Abyss onwards they have just been repackaging their brand of metal to fit with whatever they perceive the kids to be into at the time.

Which is grand. That's something that's not just common in metal but all commercial art. Pick any horror franchise as an example.

Just for my own tastes, Slayer are a bit more contrived about it than others. But I agree, it's a no win situation. Forbidden for example will release a new album in the next year or two and people will whinge if it doesn't sound like the old stuff and also if it does.

#84 February 05, 2024, 09:01:53 PM Last Edit: February 05, 2024, 09:06:31 PM by Pain Medicine
Song is okay, I like the vocals. The Rolling Stone article is interesting, says Dave Lombardo is 'dead to me' and hasn't even exchanged a text message with Tom Araya since the last show.

Also had a good laugh after he said he recorded 18 solos in one day.

The bit in that Rolling Stone article about his "creative process" says it all. Mindless.

I had no intention of reading that. But now my interest is piqued  ???

I don't know if he is refreshingly honest, playing a character he has to play or just an idiot but he seemed completely indifferent to Jeff Hanneman's death. Obviously he is not going to be screaming why why at the heavens but it seems there was nothing between any of them.

Yup, looks like they were just a bunch of different people who worked together but didn't need to see each other outside work. Fair enough.

The part about his creative process was grim.

"I don't wish Tom dead at this moment" was pretty funny though.