Crime Courts Law

[Pagan Saviour]

https://open.spotify.com/episode/5vf2s9e79OMble4wl6BiJ9?si=twQcQE2cSsWxAzyCtIBWGw&nd=1&dlsi=c9faafce04184902




Some good old fashioned thinking in this podcast.

[DISRUPTER]

https://m.sundayworld.com/crime/courts/teen-caught-with-over-1800-child-abuse-images-gets-suspended-sentence/a588953189.html

A monster among us

[mickO)))]

24? Looks more like 44. Also says teen in the headline great journalism as always. They have given his full address so I am sure someone that sees the article will at the very least want to have a chat with him.

[open face surgery]

Was 19 when arrested.

[Emphyrio]

Commit one serious crime, get one free.

https://www.thejournal.ie/family-joe-drennan-disgusted-concurrent-sentence-hit-and-run-6609827-Jan2025/

[Trev]

https://m.sundayworld.com/crime/courts/teen-caught-with-over-1800-child-abuse-images-gets-suspended-sentence/a588953189.html

A monster among us

Nolan again, he probably needs his hard drive gone through with the consistent leniency he shows with sexual offenders

[mishima]

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/courtandcrime/arid-41564950.html


"He jailed Daragh Hayes for three years with the final six months suspended, and sentenced Cian Hayes to two-and-a-half years with the final six months suspended."

Shockingly light sentences when you consider what they did.

[mishima]

Commit one serious crime, get one free.

https://www.thejournal.ie/family-joe-drennan-disgusted-concurrent-sentence-hit-and-run-6609827-Jan2025/

"In court, after the sentences were imposed, Tim Drennan, the father of Joe Drennan, asked Judge Daly: "Sorry, your honour, does that mean that this fella (Fogarty) will not serve a day (in jail) for killing my son?".

Earlier the judge had said the hit-and-run sentence would run in addition to the shooting sentence, but later the judge corrected this.

The judge, rising from his bench, did not respond to Tim Drennan's query, and retired to his private chambers."


Fuck me.

[The Heretic]

Commit one serious crime, get one free.

https://www.thejournal.ie/family-joe-drennan-disgusted-concurrent-sentence-hit-and-run-6609827-Jan2025/

This will be be appealed surely?

I don't get this concurrent shite atall, let's say I get a speeding fine for 160 and another fine of 160 for no tv licence, will single payment of 160 from me cover both?

[Emphyrio]

There will definitely be an appeal. There has to be. That judge is a disgrace. And ya, concurrent sentences should only be used in exceptional circumstances,

[Pagan Saviour]

I know people will say it's proven not to be a deterrent but I do love the sentencing in the states. In that particular case it would've been likely both sentences were longer and would've run consecutively. It's less about deterrence and more about justice being served for the families and in the interest of public safety. How many times in Ireland do we hear "Crime committed whilst on bail for x y z" 

[Emphyrio]

I hate that argument that because something doesn't work in America, it automatically wouldn't work elsewhere. Why anyone would want to compare any system in America with what we or other countries have is beyond me. They are a mess and should automatically be ruled out as a basis for comparison.

But you're right in that this chap would have served consecutive sentences in America, and rightly so. Can you imagine the family leaving the court with that scumbag serving absolutely no time for killing their son/brother. Our "justice" system is a shambles.

[Eoin McLove]

Commit one serious crime, get one free.

https://www.thejournal.ie/family-joe-drennan-disgusted-concurrent-sentence-hit-and-run-6609827-Jan2025/

Wow. Sounds like the kind of dude who should never see the light of day again. Why the leniency? Can you reform that sort of scum?

[mickO)))]

Concurrent sentences are very common in the US especially for more serious crimes like this so hard to say how it would have turned if he was on trial over there. He would have at least done some jail time.

A lad in Drogheda was killed in a hit and run last Paddy's day. Turned out it was an off duty Garda that hit him who was pissed out of head and had been snorting all night. Guard fled the scene and your man died. All that's happened so far was the Guard was taken in for questioning the following day when they found out it was him and then he was suspended. Has been nothing else on the case since.

[Emphyrio]

Commit one serious crime, get one free.

https://www.thejournal.ie/family-joe-drennan-disgusted-concurrent-sentence-hit-and-run-6609827-Jan2025/

Can you reform that sort of scum?

Having taught him in primary school, no.