#4876 January 10, 2025, 08:18:38 PM Last Edit: January 10, 2025, 08:23:13 PM by Black Shepherd Carnage
Smug or "crazy" are the only things Pitt can do alright, but he was relatively fine in Interview which I think is great. Was prob bigging it up here not so long ago. Coppola's Dracula I want to watch again: I've hated it progressively less every time I've seen it. Also recently saw a video about how it's all an allegory for the birth of cinema. Absolutely think something like that could happen again today though: big name director does big budget trainwreck. Thinking, say, Mother.

Coppola's Dracula is objectively awful. Great effects and it looked amazing but the hamminess of the acting destroyed it altogether.

That being said, it's a guilty pleasure if I'm in the mood. Tom Waits was great craic in it, and there's also Monica Bellucci. It makes a great double bill with Brannagh's equally awful Frankenstein.

Frankenstein is great. I always loved that one and watched it many times as a teen. I would love to see Eggers put his spin on the story.

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Quote from: Eoin McLove on January 05, 2025, 08:12:07 AMJust back from Nosferatu. As Mithrandir said above its a bit thin story wise, but that's fine with me. The Dracula/ Nosferatu tale is straight forward so I expected it to live or die on the atmosphere and visuals. And it was spot on in those respects. I loved how it reverted to looking like a black and white 1920s flick for the nocturnal scenes. It was stylish without being too heavy handed. It all looked like it was shot slightly out of focus as well which added to that sense of age and decay. The vibe was perfectly creepy and crepuscular throughout. I thought it looked like the perfect black metal or funeral doom video and no doubt it'll be plundered for samples and visuals. The overall sound I thought was incredible. It was cold, minimal and barren and heightened the creepiness. Orlok's vokillz were killer too. It sounds like Sarsgard had watched a few interviews with Atilla Csihar! The accent, the voice, the slow staccato delivery... perfect. Hard to fault it really other than the lack of kangaroos. I think there might have only been one or two in the whole film.
2/10

Saw it last night at last. The whole way through I was thinking how black metal it all looked so it's funny to come back and read you thought the same  :laugh:

I have slightly mixed feelings overall. The whole thing looked and felt incredible. The cinematography, sets, sound design and score were all utterly amazing. It had a dreamy/nightmarish quality throughout you could really get sucked into.

...And then get completely sucked back out of because I thought the acting was across the board terrible. A bunch of Americans chewing the absolute christ out of the scenery and failing to stick the English accent/Victorian nobility thing (why is everyone English despite the film being set in Germany?). Lily Rose Depp in particular I thought was awful in paying a loving tribute to the terrible acting of Keanu/Winona in the Coppola one (though she was actually pretty good in the possession scenes...). I'm also just not a fan of Skarsgard either. He's basically the grown up version of Jonny Depp (who I also hate), but with a touch more brooding and a touch less buffoonery.

Without giving too much away I did like the style they went with for the count bar one specific thing (the part that's actually accurate to the book funnily enough, but it just didn't look right to me). People have been praising the way he spoke, but honestly it grated on me.

Overall though I enjoyed it and would watch again just for the visuals and atmosphere. Still think the Coppola one is the best adaptation though.

Aaron Taylor Johnson is English and even he sounded like an American putting on a British accent!

 :laugh: I think in a way that adds to it. Think of all those old black and white films with the pinched unnatural Englishy accents. It harkens to that I reckon. Plus, it's Germany so who cares what accents they use, they are probably all Nazis.

Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on January 10, 2025, 08:18:38 PMAbsolutely think something like that could happen again today though: big name director does big budget trainwreck. Thinking, say, Mother.

Mother was so fuckin bad 😄 My missus didn't recommend a movie for months after that.
I was surprised at how gay Dracula was when I first saw it. It's like a musical. Pure ham.
Going to see Nosferatu this evening so will report back.

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Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on January 10, 2025, 08:18:38 PMAbsolutely think something like that could happen again today though: big name director does big budget trainwreck. Thinking, say, Mother.

Mother was so fuckin bad 😄 My missus didn't recommend a movie for months after that.
I was surprised at how gay Dracula was when I first saw it. It's like a musical. Pure ham.


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I paid money to see Mother in the Cinema. I was absolutely furious

I'd have been the same.

Loved Nosferatu.

Any Bond fans on here? Just seen there are more odds on actors now. I love the whole build up to the next 007 I have to say.

Who's in the running?
Only one's I've heard mention...

Cillian Murphy.
Eh! Just NO!

The very obvious choice would be Cavill.
But is it too obvious? He'd certainly give it 100%, I reckon.

Not sure about that Taylor-Johnson guy. He may have the look but I don't think he has the bond factor.

Anora. Grand. Lots of ridin', lots of shouting, reminded me very slightly of Uncut Gems, though not as good.

Quote from: Necro Red on January 13, 2025, 10:45:47 AMAny Bond fans on here? Just seen there are more odds on actors now. I love the whole build up to the next 007 I have to say.

The Broccoli's seem to be deploying their friends in the tabloids an awful lot in the past few months trying to derail Amazon.

There's too many cooks when it comes to Bond.
Amazon:who just want a solid Bond movie

The Broccoli's, who get cuntish over the smallest thing and do side deals all the time.

Sony who still have a piece of the theatrical side of it.

Amazon did suggest Chris Hemsworth as someone who could do a decent job and importantly a fresh take. And once they got Henry Cavill for Warhammer, he was another suggestion.

But he's disqualified by the Broccolis as he made Bond knock offs with Matthew Vaughn & Guy Ritchie

Sony want Aaron Taylor Johnson, who talks like a child and is married to Nosferatu, but he's pretty good.

Broccolis want money and someone who will do all the product placement and not complain about being a whore.

They absolutely fucked the Brosnon run with shilling.

As for the revolving door of actors who the Tabloids say "is this the next Bond". It's usually them & their PR making shit up in the hope they get the gig.

Idris Elba & Tom Hiddleston would have been in serious contention but they would mention it anytime the tape recorder was out so that fucked them.


Ideally they'd pick a good relatively unknown actor who hasn't been doing the rounds in all of the big franchises for the past 15 years. Just realised I never watched any of the Bond films since Skyfall (which was good), any use?

Watched A Real Pain last night, written and directed by Jesse Eisenberg, who also stars with a fascinating take on Jesse Eisenberg, also has Kieran Culkin as an annoying little bollix, but it is a surprisingly nice film.

Quote from: ldj on January 13, 2025, 02:38:02 PMJust realised I never watched any of the Bond films since Skyfall (which was good), any use?

No, Skyfall was the last decent one.