Ah Jesus, subtitles all the way!

Aye. Theres something wrong with people who watch dubbed versions of anything.

The entire nation of Spain does it and it is an absolute pain in the balls. Very few cinemas here show the original version of films, and I live in Madrid.

Quote from: Caomhaoin on November 13, 2022, 10:35:12 AMThe entire nation of Spain does it and it is an absolute pain in the balls. Very few cinemas here show the original version of films, and I live in Madrid.

For fuck sake. Cant watched a dubbed version. Totally ruins the flow of a film. Are the Spanish just lazy?

Quote from: Ollkiller on November 13, 2022, 11:51:40 AM
Quote from: Caomhaoin on November 13, 2022, 10:35:12 AMThe entire nation of Spain does it and it is an absolute pain in the balls. Very few cinemas here show the original version of films, and I live in Madrid.

For fuck sake. Cant watched a dubbed version. Totally ruins the flow of a film. Are the Spanish just lazy?

I'm fairly sure that's the generic slur against them alright  ::)

The Mrs says 'I don't go to the cinema to read'.

Says it all really.

More related to the cultural shadow of Franco's war against everything not Spanish language (including Basque, Catalan, etc.) than with inherent laziness, imo. Essentially all the school teachers and parents of our generation grew up under Franco, and many of the teachers and parents of younger generations too. I think it's changing now though. Even Pamplona has a couple of cinemas now that have subtitled screenings, and lots of younger people prefer watching their Game of Thrones, Netflix latest, etc., in the original language because they're more than ever exposed to a "global" culture.

In France it's about 50/50 dubbing versus subtitles. For example, in contrast to Spain, Bordeaux has just one cinema that exclusively shows dubbed films, and that more and more means they're restricted to showing only blockbusters and animated movies, since French fans of independent cinema don't want them dubbed meaning there's not enough €€ return to make it worthwhile dubbing them in the first place.

Spain will be like this within a couple of generations. 

The independent place shows the originals here alright.

Most of my students (teenagers) prefer to watch films etc dubbed. Unsurprisingly, the ones with less lamentable levels of English grew up watching cartoons in English at their parents insistence.

Franco was a Galician, yet undermined the native tongue.

I watched the dubbed version of All Quiet... but in my defence I was watching it with two young lads. Definitely going to watch it again with the subs. English accents they had in the dub

Quote from: Eoin McLove on November 13, 2022, 08:54:18 AMAh Jesus, subtitles all the way!

Absolutely. I saw a bit of a dubbed version of Depardieu's "Cyrano De Bergerac" on a hotel TV in the US years ago. The dialogue was basically gibberish.

Back in the halcyon days of Kung Fu flicks on VHS you very rarely got the option of a subtitled version. Not til Tartan Video gained a foothold in the 1990s and sold both options.

The only time that I watch dubbed movies now is when I get home half cut with a bag of chips and I want to watch Jackie Chan or Sonny Chiba kick the ever-loving shit out of a load of lads.

I watched "Manchester By The Sea" - great film. Never drags. One of the truest representations of what it's like dealing with someone dying out of the blue and the ensuing aftermath. Sad, frustrating and all the while funny because you just have to get on with things.


Also watched "Clerks III" - wasn't expecting much after the the debacle that was the last Jay & Silent Bob effort but (with a caveat that you have to had been a fan of Kevin Smith's at some point) this sequel is pretty damn good. Granted - there's the usual Smith self-referencing navel gazing but there's a lot of great jokes in there and a lot of heart too.

Brian O'Halloran and Jeff Anderson - essentially still amateurs in terms of film acting - both knock it out of the park. O'Halloran has two scenes in particular that show what chops he has.

Quote from: StoutAndAle on November 14, 2022, 10:11:29 AMI watched "Manchester By The Sea" - great film. Never drags. One of the truest representations of what it's like dealing with someone dying out of the blue and the ensuing aftermath. Sad, frustrating and all the while funny because you just have to get on with things.


Also watched "Clerks III" - wasn't expecting much after the the debacle that was the last Jay & Silent Bob effort but (with a caveat that you have to had been a fan of Kevin Smith's at some point) this sequel is pretty damn good. Granted - there's the usual Smith self-referencing navel gazing but there's a lot of great jokes in there and a lot of heart too.

Brian O'Halloran and Jeff Anderson - essentially still amateurs in terms of film acting - both knock it out of the park. O'Halloran has two scenes in particular that show what chops he has.
I agree about Clerks 3. I watched it last week and honestly wasn't expecting much. A decent trilogy now

I didn't realise Clerks 3 was out yet, I must get on that.

Watched Dr. Twrror's House Of Horrors last night, a horror anthology from the '60s. Very silly, very of its time, good craic.

Quote from: StoutAndAle on November 14, 2022, 10:11:29 AMBrian O'Halloran and Jeff Anderson - essentially still amateurs in terms of film acting - both knock it out of the park. O'Halloran has two scenes in particular that show what chops he has.

Yes, even Jay was stunned into silence during that scene, for a guy who got a lot of flak over the years for not being able to act, O'Halloran proved his critics wrong in this movie.

I did not know Clerks III was out and I'm delighted it's getting good reviews. Cant wait to watch it. The original Clerks is fantastic.