The Tube.

[Nail_Bombed]

Back into The Umbrella Academy - second season on now. Still pretty good stuff, not as great as the first season but still rolling along nicely, with the whole stuck in the 1960s "Who really shot JFK" plotline.

[Ollkiller]

Back into The Umbrella Academy - second season on now. Still pretty good stuff, not as great as the first season but still rolling along nicely, with the whole stuck in the 1960s "Who really shot JFK" plotline.

Is it any good. I watched 3 episodes of the forst season a d was bored beyond belief. Does it get better?

[Nail_Bombed]

Is it any good. I watched 3 episodes of the forst season a d was bored beyond belief. Does it get better?

IMO, yeah - it's certainly a slow burn but it gets a lot better a third or so of the way in.

[Caomhaoin]

That 'Immigration Nation' on Netflix is quite good. It's as woke as you'd expect from Da Flix, but it's not totally one sided. And fair dues, some the behaviour of the the border guards is reprehensible, liking emptying out water bottles left out by locals in Southern Arizona for the poor sods who have to traipse across the desert for days with nothing.

The family separation stuff is very hard to come to terms with, anyone with a sprog or sprogae will empathise fully. Anyways, handy mini-series if yer stuck.

Had a dose of the food poisoning there so I watched 'Castaway' for the first time (I enjoy watching other lads having a bad time when I am), grandest like. Threw on 'Come and See' again aswell, it'd sober Chemical Ally up after a dozen bottles of the 'fast. It's a war movie on paper, but it's a horror film in all but name. Christ.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

So, this potentially risks derailing the thread for a bit (or not), but here's one for ye:

Three or four years ago, I was in Athens visiting friends and one evening we went to an outdoor concert where, at one point, they played the Game of Thrones theme tune as part of a medley. I asked the girl beside me if she'd seen the show, no she said. It's really good, I said (at the time, it still was). Have you seen Lost? she asks me. Ah, GoT is better than Lost, I didn't even finish Lost!

Thereupon followed a two day spate of her mocking me for giving an opinion on something I hadn't even finished. I stopped watching at the end of season 4...moving to France, going back to uni, all that plus I just wasn't really interested at the time contributed, and then when the general vibe a couple of years later was that it was the worst finale of all time, I just decided to forget about it totally. Until these conversations with this girl, which started an itch. Couple of years later, I find out the missus has never seen any of it, while we're in Athens together and this subject comes up again with the same friend. Then, making it finally inescapable, it appears on Amazon Prime a few months back, during lockdown, so we decide we'll go for it, from the beginning right to the end, come what may, the two of us having in our heads both the general vox populi that the end was shit but also this friend's opinion that it was the best tv show.

We finished it last night, semi-binged over 2 months, and I have to say - helped certainly by watching accompanied by fresh eyes - I was thoroughly entertained all the way through to the controversial ending. Compared to more recent "fantastical" shows, the characters, the dialogue, the vibe, all stay up at a high level. I was expecting seasons 5 and 6 in their entirety to be a chore. Sure, the finale seems a weak curve ball on the surface, but for whatever specific reasons (prob a lot to do with having spent the intervening years floating about with stuff like Socrates' Phaedo, Gnostic traditions, Bardo, etc.) it just worked for me, and for herself.

So there, 15 years after starting it, I got closure on Lost last night, and - surprising even myself - I'm really glad I did!

[Emphyrio]

Yup, great show and I'm a big fan of the finale. It just worked.

[Caomhaoin]

Never bothered with Lost, and the bird only likes watching mini-series. Never watched more than an episode of the walking dead either. I used to watch Fair City and Home and Away religiously for years, so I'm not a thespian by any stretch of the imagination.

[Carnage]

I called the finale in season 2 and nobody believed me. I thought it was fairly crap though, or at least badly done.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

I called the finale in season 2 and nobody believed me. I thought it was fairly crap though, or at least badly done.

I don't see how you could have called the finale in season 2, unless - like many, many other people - you mis-/over-interpreted the ending.

In this quite confrontational interview (from around 2012 it seems), Lindelof explains that the explanation some viewers had already come up with half way through the first season (presumably the same one you came up with in season 2, and which was definitely one possible explanation), is not actually it at all:

https://youtu.be/B5chCMRsEVo

[Carnage]

Huh. It seems that I did misinterpret it - to a degree, at least, I'm not gonna go into detail in case anybody's planning on watching it. It's been 10 years since it ended so my memory's a bit fuzzy, and there's obviously a huge amount that I've forgotten, I'm gonna have to watch it again at some point.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

Huh. It seems that I did misinterpret it - to a degree, at least, I'm not gonna go into detail in case anybody's planning on watching it. It's been 10 years since it ended so my memory's a bit fuzzy, and there's obviously a huge amount that I've forgotten, I'm gonna have to watch it again at some point.

I know on a subconscious level I was kind of "infected" by that interpretation, think I may have heard whispers despite myself many years ago, and initially last night, it's how I understood it too, and I was even more or less happy with it that way. But the missus instantly picked up something else, and in talking with her afterwards, things started to take a different, much more satisfying shape, until eventually we landed close to what Lindelof lays out there. If anything, this morning I was even too hasty in looking up confirmations; I could have let it roll around in my head a bit longer.

[Emphyrio]

Finally got around to The Last Dance. I was expecting him to come off as an asshole after previous reviews, pfft, proper man, proper athlete. Grade A legend.

Criminal that Pippen was like 122nd best paid. 

[Ollkiller]

Finally got around to The Last Dance. I was expecting him to come off as an asshole after previous reviews, pfft, proper man, proper athlete. Grade A legend.

Criminal that Pippen was like 122nd best paid.

Aye but at least Pippen made shitloads when he moved. It's a really well put together doc.

[Emphyrio]

It's brilliant. Rodman is fuckin mental. I'd say he'd be gas to go sessioning with.

[Ollkiller]

It's brilliant. Rodman is fuckin mental. I'd say he'd be gas to go sessioning with.

100%. It would the Sesh of all time