Controversial Metal Opinions

[Ducky]

Actually, I think that's one of my ultimate peeves - being a skint teenager and only being able to buy an album once in a while, only to come home with a turkey.

To tie it into the thread, I'll never forget the utter disgust on my face when I splashed out on Killers, not knowing about Paul Dianno's tenure with the band and realising that they had a period where they sounded like a glorified pub band... oh well, at least the album sleeve was cool.

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Actually, I think that's one of my ultimate peeves - being a skint teenager and only being able to buy an album once in a while, only to come home with a turkey.

To tie it into the thread, I'll never forget the utter disgust on my face when I splashed out on Killers, not knowing about Paul Dianno's tenure with the band and realising that they had a period where they sounded like a glorified pub band... oh well, at least the album sleeve was cool.

Reminds me when I went to buy Fear Factorys demanufacture on cd and mistakenly picked up remanufacture (total shit show remix album). Got home and copped what I'd done after flicking through a few tracks. Went back to the shop and the utter CUNT behind the counter wouldn't take it back. Guess he finally managed to shift the piece of shit. I gave him so much abuse and kicked the counter a few times, bounced the cd off the desk and stormed out in utter rage.

I can laugh about it now but jesus what a cunt for not taking letting me exchange even though i came back within half an hour 

[Carnage]

I'll agree with you on Hell Awaits, very poor album in every respect (songs, playing, production - all subpa4), apart from the title track it's crap, just above Fiabolus at the bottom of their album rankings.

Nothing wrong with Killers, however. Like you, I'd heard Dickinson material before knowing anything about D'ianno. Went to a local music stall to buy my first Maiden album and went for Killers as it had the most songs. Even though the vocals were different (and yes, inferior) I was still blown away. I still get hairs rising on the back of my neck when The Ides Of March kicks in.

[Ducky]

Actually, I think that's one of my ultimate peeves - being a skint teenager and only being able to buy an album once in a while, only to come home with a turkey.

To tie it into the thread, I'll never forget the utter disgust on my face when I splashed out on Killers, not knowing about Paul Dianno's tenure with the band and realising that they had a period where they sounded like a glorified pub band... oh well, at least the album sleeve was cool.

Reminds me when I went to buy Fear Factorys demanufacture on cd and mistakenly picked up remanufacture (total shit show remix album). Got home and copped what I'd done after flicking through a few tracks. Went back to the shop and the utter CUNT behind the counter wouldn't take it back. Guess he finally managed to shift the piece of shit. I gave him so much abuse and kicked the counter a few times, bounced the cd off the desk and stormed out in utter rage.

I can laugh about it now but jesus what a cunt for not taking letting me exchange even though i came back within half an hour 

One of the lads made the very same mistake with Remanufacture! Out record shop guy was sound at least and allowed him to swap.

[Ducky]

I'll agree with you on Hell Awaits, very poor album in every respect (songs, playing, production - all subpa4), apart from the title track it's crap, just above Fiabolus at the bottom of their album rankings.

Nothing wrong with Killers, however. Like you, I'd heard Dickinson material before knowing anything about D'ianno. Went to a local music stall to buy my first Maiden album and went for Killers as it had the most songs. Even though the vocals were different (and yes, inferior) I was still blown away. I still get hairs rising on the back of my neck when The Ides Of March kicks in.

I stuck on the first two albums there (haven't heard them in years) and there's three decent tracks on the first one (Phantom, Transylvania and Remember Tomorrow) and two on the second one (err, the two instrumentals).

My toes curled listening to some of DiAnno's shenanigans, especially Murders in the Rue Morgue and Prodigal Son. I keep calling it pub rock, but I've heard better pub bands than this drivel.

[Ducky]

Darkness Descends still the 1986 release which to these ears has yet to be bettered.

Wow. I mean the music is great, but Don Doty is one of the most untalented hacks to ever be falsely allowed near a recording studio. I say "one of" because Sean Killian should've been sent on a one way trip to the sun for his crimes against singing.

The pair of them make Mustaine sound like Pavaroti.

[Bogmetaller]

Pleasure to kill is the best thrash album of 1986 by a mile too 

[Carnage]

Nuclear Assault's Game Over for me.

[Ducky]

Speaking of Maiden, McBrain's playing peaked within the first few seconds with the intro to Where Eagles Dare.

Technically a great player, but horrible to listen to a lot of the time.

[Carnage]

I much preferred Burr's playing alright.

[Pagan Waltar]

All this talk of Maiden's first 2 lps being of "pub band" standard is just bollicks.

Yes there was excellent material released by other NWOBHM bands at the same time but Maidens early output was certainly at least on par with their contemporaries.

While not my favourites of theirs by any means, they were a rougher, less fluid  but charming version of things to come. Both the s/t and Killers are much better than Number of the Beast which is a completely inconsistent album.

And yes, Clive Burr was an amazing drummer.

[Mower Liberation Front]

Sean Killian should've been sent on a one way trip to the sun for his crimes against singing.

Now that's just crazy talk. 

And Slayer's finest album and moment is South of Heaven, and Ghost of War.

[Ducky]

All this talk of Maiden's first 2 lps being of "pub band" standard is just bollicks.

Yes there was excellent material released by other NWOBHM bands at the same time but Maidens early output was certainly at least on par with their contemporaries.

While not my favourites of theirs by any means, they were a rougher, less fluid  but charming version of things to come. Both the s/t and Killers are much better than Number of the Beast which is a completely inconsistent album.

And yes, Clive Burr was an amazing drummer.

NWOBHM may as well stand for "shite pub bands" in my book. I get their influence on what was to come, doesn't mean it isn't aural pollution to my ears.

NotB is inconsistent for sure, but it's their first one that doesn't have the pork pie/ASBO-enthusiast at the mic, so to me it's Maiden's first real album.

[open face surgery]

Some truly shocking shite in this thread.

[Kurt Cocaine]

Some truly shocking shite in this thread.

Absolutely. I swear some of them are making it up just to get a reaction..