Controversial Metal Opinions

[Carnage]

I love Nothing, it's my favourite of theirs (the re-recorded/remastered/whatever version, I've only heard the original once). Obzen is a more mellow version of their sound IMO, my favourite of the subsequent releases, but yeah, it's generally been variations on a theme since.

[Ducky]

I thought DEI being Meshuggah's best album was the general consensus? I know it's my fave by a longshot.

[ochoill]

It's Catch 33 by an absolute mile.

[Ducky]

I think Catch 33 is a better experience, but it's not as enjoyable musically.

[John Kimble]

Nope, all wrong. It's Chaosphere.

[Ducky]

Ooooffff, I dislike Chaosphere to the point where I'd say I actually hate it. Bay far their worst album for me.

[astfgyl]

I'm in the Catch 33 camp as well. then Nothing, then I.

I bought the 8 string version of Nothing lately and I prefer the downtuned 7 string version. The difference isn't massive on the face of it, but there is an extra bit of filth from the downtuned 7 vs the 8 albeit with a small loss in clarity but I just prefer the extra dirt on the original.

I find Chaosphere is a very tough listen and I wouldn't really be bothered with it though I found it intriguing when it first came out

DEI has a certain charm as well and stands out as very different to a lot of the rest. I'm going to lash it on now altogether be grand for a bit of painting.

[Giggles]

Are they even together these days? I know Dexter Holland went back and finished his PhD in molecular biology a few years ago. For a lad that has enough money to last several lifetimes, fair dues to him going back, think he was working in research towards a cure for HIV.

They're working on a new album. Be hard to follow up on this absolute banger from the last release 

https://youtu.be/0eJZo1Hs8yk

That surely has to be a piss take??

It surely is a piss take and it surely is an absolute banger   


I don't think Meshuggah have a bad album. They're some craic to have on when one is doing a spot of housekeeping 

[astfgyl]

I listened to Destroy Erase Improve and Catch 33 last night and they were both brilliant. I don't necessarily think any of their albums are bad but they got a bit samey for me as time went on. Still that takes nothing from the first few. I thought Koloss was great at first but it fell away pretty quickly for me and now I can't remember a note of it.

Is it controversial to say I love listening to metal but I can't stand looking at it for the most part? I got a copy of Meshuggah Nothing and it had a free DVD and I couldn't enjoy it looking at the head on yer man making the hard man faces. There is a lot of posturing involved with all types of metal, but I suppose as it is essentially role play that is inevitable as they have to get into character to give the performance. A lot of it reminds me of WWE though.

[open face surgery]

Chaosphere was my introduction and prob still my favourite but, on a whole, despite liking them, I couldn't care less about them at this point. I always thought he looked deadly live. Mad head on him.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

Possibly the most uninteresting vocalist in metal all the same. Did they purposely decide to have the vocals be the one-dimensional anchor to tether the musical madness?

[Scáthach]

I think so, it's yet another rhythmic instrument in the mix.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

I have no recollection of anything rhythmically interesting happening at the level of the vocals, but I'm not a good judge; I never got anything more than the novelty value of Meshuggah's wow factor, always got bored of them by day two or three of trying.

[Eoin McLove]

I saw them supporting Machine Head in 95 and thought they were really heavy and cool but even then, at 13, I found them sterile and boring on CD. I'm happy to watch a couple of songs live on YouTube from time to time,  and marvel at their playing but, man, they are a boring band.

[Pentagrimes]

Dool are just Him for people who like black metal