Controversial Metal Opinions

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Scum is sick!

[Carnage]

If Barney had sang on Mentally Murdered it'd be their best release. But he didn't so it isn't.

[astfgyl]

Mechanize is Fear Factory's best album

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

Don't get me wrong, I love Arise but, controversial opinion:

...For Victory is the album Arise tried to be 

[Pentagrimes]

Sijjin are fucking overrated garbage.

[Sworntothecans]

Mechanize is Fear Factory's best album

It's up there for sure. Gene Hoglan killing it as per usual.

[Trev]

Mechanize is Fear Factory's best album

I'd go Archetype, Demanufacture, Mechanize.
Everything since has been sticking a bit too closely to the formula, not bad albums, just nothing noteworthy

[astfgyl]

Mechanize is Fear Factory's best album

I'd go Archetype, Demanufacture, Mechanize.
Everything since has been sticking a bit too closely to the formula, not bad albums, just nothing noteworthy

Picked up Archetype a year or two ago for 50c in a charity shop and it was much better than I'd remembered. I can't remember a single song off anything after Mechanize

[Carnage]

Archetype is underrated for sure, I love the rawer sound on it. And then the abortion that followed it...

Was it The Industrialist that they used a drum machine for? Whichever one it was they've reissued it with live drums, presumably by their current drummer.

[astfgyl]

Archetype is underrated for sure, I love the rawer sound on it. And then the abortion that followed it...

Was it The Industrialist that they used a drum machine for? Whichever one it was they've reissued it with live drums, presumably by their current drummer.

I think that hape of shit yoke had potential in some ways but jaysus it turned out fair bad

[Carnage]

Two covers and they were still the best songs on it.

[Sworntothecans]

Archetype is underrated for sure, I love the rawer sound on it. And then the abortion that followed it...

Was it The Industrialist that they used a drum machine for? Whichever one it was they've reissued it with live drums, presumably by their current drummer.

Yeah, Dino sneakily did it and neglected to tell Hoglan. One rumour was Gene was going to negotiate better terms of course Dino's gonna Dino. The lad that falls out with everyone.

I'd go Demanufacture/SONM/Archetype/Mechanize

[ochoill]

Archetype is underrated for sure, I love the rawer sound on it. And then the abortion that followed it...

Was it The Industrialist that they used a drum machine for? Whichever one it was they've reissued it with live drums, presumably by their current drummer.

Yeah, Dino sneakily did it and neglected to tell Hoglan. One rumour was Gene was going to negotiate better terms of course Dino's gonna Dino. The lad that falls out with everyone.

I'd go Demanufacture/SONM/Archetype/Mechanize

Used to think he was a bollix too but now I'd stand up for Dino for almost everything FF related after reading the court docs and various shit online behind the scenes of the band (tl;dr the other three tried to litigate him out of the band but it backfired badly, after years of dragging him through shit anyway) - but I'll never understand why they did that to Hoglan.  He was told he was recording it then suddenly it's already done.  It was while Bell was back in the band anyway and it was around this point the whole thing fell to shit again so I wonder if he had a hand in it too, Bell had went bankrupt at this point.

Anyway it's no good.  Archetype is also terrible lads I dunno why everyone raves about it.  And that dogshit afterwards, sweet jesus.  Mechanise is the only album post-Obsolete worth any time.

Demanufacture / SOANM / Obsolete / Mechanise for me anyway.  Wouldn't even put on a new song if it was released now mind but I listen to those three still regularly.

[leatherface]

'Genexus' had some good moments I thought. No 'Soul of a new machine ' or 'Fear Is the mind killer ' but decent nonetheless.

[Carnage]

There's something good on all of the albums bar Transgression, that's clearly fucking terrible. Even the last few, they're worth a listen. No classics there obviously, but they're not shit. I have zero hope or interest in the post-Bell incarnation of the band, the fact that he got a Bell clone in (including the hairstyle and mannerisms) shows that there's no interest in progression or evolution there, it's just gonna be shoddy rehashing of former glories. Dead band.