They can have 'em  8)
Wearing jeans and leather, not crackerjack clothes


To clarify, anyone who's been going to rock/metal gigs for decades has  met all colours/strands/dresscodes/sexualitys/...like,...it's not even an issue. My problem is seeing the hideous word 'woke' and all it's whiney ,poor me, therapy sessions booked connotations  beside the stand alone independence of Metal.   
Wearing jeans and leather, not crackerjack clothes

Ah fuck it, away to bed with the original pressing of Vol.4 and not the super deluxe edition with his and hers eggcups.
Wearing jeans and leather, not crackerjack clothes

Quotehistorically, metal has also been a hostile space for women, people of colour and the LGBTQ+ community

Hear hear, It's about time somebody came out and said it!
Hopefully this article draws a lot of attention, so that the likes of Phil Lynott and Rob Halford can finally be acknowledged for their outstanding contribution to metal on an international scale  :laugh:

If there's one thing I love to do it's seek out LGTBQ individuals for the appropriate abuse at metal concerts. It's what I specifically spend tickets for goddammit.

It's grand that there is some representation for the disenfranchised in metal, but other than LOA who are long past their best I dunno about any of em. Does it really matter what they are saying anyway if the music is any good?

Surprised Liturgy didn't get a mention with Triple H getting turned into a woman.

Quote from: Giggles on May 05, 2021, 12:08:28 PM
Quotehistorically, metal has also been a hostile space for women, people of colour and the LGBTQ+ community

I nearly didn't read it after that opening salvo, but the article was benign enough and sure if it gets more of the youth playing metal we might even get a few good tunes out of it in the future

The Kerrang style rock/metal scene has always been a safe space for the weirdos, outsiders, homosexual, bullied etc etc types. It was when I was a kid in the 90s and no one batted an eyelid.

Your independent lone wolf metal head tended to gravitate to the underground scene and either stuck with it or 'grew up'. The alternative Kerrang crowd were usually only in it for reassurance and friendship until they too grew up. Today's crowd seem to want attention and recognition whether deserved or not. A result of the look at me internet age....

#23 May 05, 2021, 02:06:52 PM Last Edit: May 05, 2021, 02:29:20 PM by Paul keohane
God i nearly needed to be woke after reading that shite!.

I only found out very recently that the LOA front man is now a women,a band i had a passing interest in back in the 90s.

I'm actually quite down with the whole LGBTHIV+ movement myself.
I think Herr Kristoph's ramblings have finally gotten to me  :-[

My problem with this is simply that most of the bands just seem fucking terrible to me  - I listened to one Tertarch song and it's some generic metalcore or nu metal bullshit, if these are the bands changing the face of metal you'd think they'd have more memorable tunes?

Well metal music is sometime about killing people - sometimes with extreme prejudice - so a Cannibal Corpse type band singing about getting along or rainbows n roses doesn't really appeal. Especially for someone like myself who hates everyone equally.

All those bands are absolute shite, when there is shite spouted about bands having "diverse" members they never talk about actually decent "diverse" bands like Mythic , Nuclear Death, Blasphemy, Bolt Thrower, Electric Wizard, Adorior, Derkéta etc. tis always shite nu-metal or hardcore bands where the focus is on how woke they are and not the actual music.