#105 February 08, 2021, 07:56:34 PM Last Edit: February 08, 2021, 07:58:22 PM by Nazgûl
Quote"Rape is the most unreported crime across the globe."
What a load of utter scutter, not petty theft, not common assault, not vandalism, no, "rape is the most unreported crime across the globe"
Bullshit.

Would you mind pointing me in the general direction of these sources you get your information from so that I can have a right fucking laugh?, you say there is no shortage of them.

The National Crime Victimisation survey, the British Crime Survey, and all of the others of the same type relevant to their particular country. There's also Crisis centers, etc. As BSC said, this stuff is easily found from a Google search and isn't some mystical, hard to source information.

Ya, I think the general direction he's looking for is just away from his own arse.

#107 February 08, 2021, 10:23:38 PM Last Edit: February 08, 2021, 10:27:45 PM by Ollkiller
Quote from: son of the Morrigan on February 08, 2021, 07:23:05 PM
"Rape is the most unreported crime across the globe."
What a load of utter scutter, not petty theft, not common assault, not vandalism, no, "rape is the most unreported crime across the globe"
Bullshit.

Rape is vastly under reported. Around 75% or 3 in 4 rape cases will not be reported to police. The mostly women (but a small percentage of men) will not report it due to the shocking treatment of victims in the criminal justice system. Of those reported cases only 5 to 10 percent will lead to a conviction.

Where I learned this was through my cousin who was the head of the Irish rape crisis centre for many years.

Quote from: Kunt 4 Life on February 08, 2021, 07:16:01 PM
On The BBC news site it mentioned Brian took pics up a girl's shirt at a festival. It also mentioned that Trent Reznor still denies that they both sexually someone together which was mentioned in Manson's biography.
This is the first I heard of this. What was it that was said in the book? If Reznor denies it couldn't he have also sued?



Back in the day when the book came out, Reznor said it was bullshit and fell out with Warner. Made up with him later though and now says he was finished with him for nearly 30 years which is a bit mad when Warner appears in the Starfuckers, Inc video in 2000, after the book and reported falling out and reconciliation.

Has anyone come out sticking up for MM yet?

Quote from: son of the Morrigan on February 08, 2021, 07:23:05 PM
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on February 08, 2021, 12:04:38 PM
Quote from: Blackout on February 08, 2021, 11:56:53 AM
Anecdotes, really? I assume you have plenty of statistical evidence and factual information to back up your posts then?

Anecdote as in an individual personal account, an individual case, as opposed to analyses of all available cases, which estimate that only around a quarter of all sexual crimes are reported and that rape is the single most underreported crime across the globe. No shortage of sources for that information via a quick google search.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
fucking brilliant, a group of experts analysed "all available cases" and  their expert analyses of these cases led them to "estimate" that for every one they had analysed, there should be three more. Again, fucking brilliant.
this auld rubbish is being bandied about by interest groups, cranks, crackpots and cunts on a regular basis and it really boils my shite.
What method was employed to come by this estimation?, did they ask Mystic Meg or something?
How does one count crimes that are not reported?
Bullshit.

"Rape is the most unreported crime across the globe."
What a load of utter scutter, not petty theft, not common assault, not vandalism, no, "rape is the most unreported crime across the globe"
Bullshit.

Would you mind pointing me in the general direction of these sources you get your information from so that I can have a right fucking laugh?, you say there is no shortage of them.

Many apologies.
I took the entirely wrong tone here, sarcasm is the lowest form of wit and this is certainly not a subject one should attempt to be witty about.
I should have just enquired as to what sources you were referring to, If its any defense I had drink taken.

I will take a look at the sources suggested above and I am more than open to having my mind changed on the matter.
The percentages being quoted here just seem insane to me, given the instances of rape that are being reported.
Perhaps I have a overdeveloped sense of the morality and humanity of my fellow man.

#110 February 09, 2021, 01:37:19 PM Last Edit: February 09, 2021, 01:40:56 PM by Ollkiller
First fair play for the apology. The drink can do quare things to a person's posts. I have learned that the hard way. Regarding the numbers they can seem large but I think they bear up to scrutiny. For the people that go to a rape crisis centre it's a low percentage that will go to the police afterwards. Sad but true. And to your last point. The vast overwhelming majority of men have that morality and humanity. But a certain tiny percentage don't and it's hard for someone with a good moral compass to envision how those type of people can carry out such a vile act. Also I'm not a fan of trial by social media either but it's the times we live in and on some level for victims I think it's a way of taking back control but that's only me thinking out loud.

If someone gets raped repeatedly over many years by the same person, each one of those rapes is a separate crime. This is a very basic, empirical fact that seems too easily to escape our attention and reasoning without us even realising it. Victims of serial child abuse, for example, are not victims of a single crime. So, one individual not officially reporting an attacker or attackers (but possibly speaking about them to a counsellor or psychiatrist, etc.) may represent dozens of unreported crimes. Then multiply that by the low percentage of individuals who do actually officially report that they have been abused at all, and yes, I think the numbers do stand up. Take Rachel Evan Wood as an example; let's ("for argument's sake" disclaimer for those who may need one) say that everything she is saying is fact. She still, as far as we know, hasn't "reported" any of it, yet it would represent dozens of sexual abuse crimes dating back over ten years. 

Oh dear, old Marilyn's in the slammer. The orange jumpsuit looks well on him in fairness...


https://youtu.be/JqQzhdF32D8

His eyebrows, or lack thereof, really give him a weird looking face

Apparently a criminal investigation has started so at least the truth has a chance to come out.

Arrest warrant issued.  I'd imagine he is fucked now.

David Ellefson and Manson should start a band ha ha

Quote from: Blackout on May 26, 2021, 10:15:41 AM
Arrest warrant issued.  I'd imagine he is fucked now.

For spitting at someone in 2019. This place is as bad as the tabloids.

Quote from: open face surgery on May 26, 2021, 04:16:44 PM
Quote from: Blackout on May 26, 2021, 10:15:41 AM
Arrest warrant issued.  I'd imagine he is fucked now.

For spitting at someone in 2019. This place is as bad as the tabloids.

I will admit I didn't read the article but I stand by my assertion he is fucked because he technically is kthxbai.

Manson is back touring in the US. A new single just released and a European tour announced for early 2025. It looks like he has bounced back like Rammstein.

https://lambgoat.com/news/43547/code-orange-guitarist-reba-meyers-joins-marilyn-mansons-band-on-first-tour-in-years/