Quote from: Caomhaoin on November 03, 2020, 08:12:25 PM
There should be task forces to keep tabs on this scum. Boils my fucking blood.

You'd think having a conviction for terrorism would make them keep more of an eye out but obviously not.

There's no way to see how this will stop anyway. As long as America keeps fucking up countries it will give sadistic people an easy weapon to radicalize young males with either mental health conditions or a hatred of the West. Like does anyone actually see a way out of it?

All the 'yeah but what about all these assholes who aren't Muslims' is hard to understand in the current discussion. The French teacher who got his head off certainly got the 'he was asking for it' treatment previously.

I agree about American foreign meddling, despite being a fan of the gaff. Just fuck off. Libya, Iraq obviously. The list goes on. Still though, I think it's not the main factor, and even if it were, this attacking people having a pint or going to a show needs a violent and vehement reaction. They're just laughing at us otherwise.

Quote from: Caomhaoin on November 03, 2020, 08:33:56 PM
I agree about American foreign meddling, despite being a fan of the gaff. Just fuck off. Libya, Iraq obviously. The list goes on. Still though, I think it's not the main factor, and even if it were, this attacking people having a pint or going to a show needs a violent and vehement reaction. They're just laughing at us otherwise.

Watched the BBC recent doc on Iraq. Amazing show. If u haven't watched it check it out. The level of hatred some Iraqis have is so justified when you see what they did to the gaff. So many monumental fuck ups. Amazing interviews with soldiers too.

As regards retribution. Find out who is responsible and more importantly who is funding it. Finding the group responsible is easy. It's the government or big player like say for example Hezbollah that's funding it. And then annihilate them (the government, not the country). Show other governments that's what happens if you fund terrorism.

That's all perfect. It's inarguable. But what about in the mean time, before France, Europe and the US unfuck the Arab world, with beheadings, stabbings and shootings, and now England going into high alert? It's the public yet again who get fucked (I know,  I know,  it's the public in the Middle East getting fucked too). What help do innocent Europeans get? What protection? It's all well and good to wring your hands apologetically on behalf of your state and be understanding of the reason why you are being attacked, but most people choose life! Who wants to be fucking decapitated because they happen to be French and their country happened to act badly in the past? It's no excuse.

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Quote from: Emphyrio on November 03, 2020, 07:37:32 PM
"The 20-year-old assailant who was shot dead had a previous criminal record and was on the security and intelligence radar."

If it gets to the stage where you're on the intelligence radar, there should be special, almost pre-emptive measures that could be taken. These cunts simply do not wish to get on in society, they don't add anything beneficial. I actually don't understand how these people are deserving of equal rights in society. They are not equal, they are less. Might sound blunt but fuck 'em.

He was deported in Turkey back to Vienna (where he was born) for trying to get to Syria for Isis recruitment. Did 9 months of a 22 month sentence -- due to his age and the criminal laws over there for 18-20 yr olds -- put into a deradicalisation programme which he apparently faked convincingly and passed.

So at that point he didn't commit any unspeakable crimes. Its fucked. Obviously those types of programmes are needed and in this case sounds like he was put into it far too early/prematurely. But what the fuck do you do otherwise?


The idea of deradicalisation programs always seems so wishy washy to me. It's like a pray the gay away pyramid scheme that is designed only to delude the snake oil salesman himself. Maybe I'm just too cynical, but like, really?

What's the alternative before any serious crimes have been committed though, whereby the person in question may just be found taking an interest in such groups (being potentially radicalised).





Something like this will inevitably happen in Ireland in the future it's just an issue of when.

Well we had a few pikeys try to decapitate another pikey with a hatchet today in Dublin.

Quote from: Bigmac on November 03, 2020, 02:58:13 PM
Watched this last night and it kind of fits here, towards the end it goes into some of the issues around migration, Islam etc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toft6H11-a0&ab_channel=KeithWoods

Echoing what Varg was saying too. I guess the irony here is that, on the whole, people like Varg have tended to stoke tensions between those whose interests are common against the real powers that be. Certainly that is the general vibe from his subscribers and video commenters of yore.