Qobuz is lossless audio quality and better artist compensation, but prob the smallest library (with "only" 72 million tracks).
Deezer also supposedly has better artist compensation, don't know specifics of the library though.

YouTube Music is a great extra from Premium, granted that's 11 quid a lot of people are unwilling to spend on principal.

Being an evil hater of various marginalised groups, I obviously don't have principals :)

Quote from: Caomhaoin on December 06, 2021, 12:09:25 PM
My apartment does not have the space for giant LP collections

I have all my Lps in flight cases. If I was caught for space they stack on top of each other handy enough.

I see there's something of a movement of artists taking all their music off the platform, God Speed You! Black Emperor being the latest I saw today. They've actually gone a step further and removed their music from all streaming platforms except Bandcamp.

King Gizzard was another big one. Mostly smaller artists in the grand scheme of it at the moment but still enough to make people at leas think about it for two seconds, finally.

From comment sections I see certain people seem to have swallowed the shit on Helsing's landing page though and seemingly are giving artists shit, saying this is one of the good weapons manufacturers, actually.

Like, the fucking state of this shit. https://helsing.ai

Nice website, modeled on the insert sequences from a Verhoeven dystopia  :laugh:

#36 August 19, 2025, 04:54:51 PM Last Edit: August 19, 2025, 04:58:56 PM by Pentagrimes
Quote from: Blackout on December 06, 2021, 01:03:44 PMBands are still allowing their music to be uploaded to Spotify anyway so if they're so vehemently opposed to same why aren't they boycotting?



Possibly labels - I'd rather not have  any band I've been in on there.  but the Drainland stuff  was uploaded by some crowd connected to Southern Lord and I'd have to argue with 2 labels and four or five former band members to get Vircolac removed. Labels effectively use streaming as advertising nowadays so they're loathe to jump ship from what's the biggest platform in the world right now.

Took my own current band's music off there, and it was a surprisingly large pain in the arse to do (thanks Distro Kid). Made absolutely no difference to a small band like us tbh, bandcamp has always been more our thing, and streaming was actually technically costing us money.

As a listener, I moved to Deezer a while back and I'm happy with it. Chose it because I could move playlists over automatically (mind you, it only transfers over 90-100 songs if you have a large playlist). Same selection, same quality, same price. There's plenty other options as a consumer so the whole "ah but I've all my music saved on spotify" isn't any excuse if you've an objection to this Ek cunt.

Quote from: Pentagrimes on August 19, 2025, 04:54:51 PM
Quote from: Blackout on December 06, 2021, 01:03:44 PMBands are still allowing their music to be uploaded to Spotify anyway so if they're so vehemently opposed to same why aren't they boycotting?



Possibly labels - I'd rather not have  any band I've been in on there.  but the Drainland stuff  was uploaded by some crowd connected to Southern Lord and I'd have to argue with 2 labels and four or five former band members to get Vircolac removed. Labels effectively use streaming as advertising nowadays so they're loathe to jump ship from what's the biggest platform in the world right now.

Took my own current band's music off there, and it was a surprisingly large pain in the arse to do (thanks Distro Kid). Made absolutely no difference to a small band like us tbh, bandcamp has always been more our thing, and streaming was actually technically costing us money.

As a listener, I moved to Deezer a while back and I'm happy with it. Chose it because I could move playlists over automatically (mind you, it only transfers over 90-100 songs if you have a large playlist). Same selection, same quality, same price. There's plenty other options as a consumer so the whole "ah but I've all my music saved on spotify" isn't any excuse if you've an objection to this Ek cunt.


I tried Tidal a while back but came back to Spotify. Tidal was ok, but not a good for discovery. Spotify is good in the sense that if you're just getting into something like post-punk, for example, you can search post-punk and it will throw up a ton of playlists which serve as a great introduction to discovering bands in the genre. Tidal I found had barely anything on that front. I am definitely keeping my eye out for something else though as I would like to get off Spotify.

I never use Spotify. Maybe im a luddite but I just couldn't be arsed. I can listen to anything I need to on bandcamp and youtube.

Isn't it the Spotify cunt that's investing in drone AI tech for military use?

Somebody gave me free Spotify premium lately and it's grand. I still use Bandcamp for anything that's on there though

Quote from: jobrok1 on August 20, 2025, 12:14:59 PMIsn't it the Spotify cunt that's investing in drone AI tech for military use?

That's the one. He's been investing in military for years, but the latest announcement seems to have been a catalyst for Gizzard, GSY!BE and others.