The Donald vs Big Tech

[Pedrito]

We're facing into a masssive global economic crisis. I seriously don't see Biden lasting more than 4 years. Beating Trump is grand but reality is going to set in very quickly and at least Trump seemed like he knew what he was doing or talked a good fight. Some dithering oul lad trying to keep up with the Chinese, Putin, the economic ctastrophe..no chance.

Ah now, you can't go on about the PR work by the liberal media whole spouting the propaganda of Biden being too old for the job that the conservative side were desperately pushing.

I'm not spouting anything. One look at JB and anyone would ask themselves if he will last. I honestly hope he's a great president and brings world peace. But, being as objective as possible here, trying to drown out all the other noise, I'd be fairly concerned. I have nothing against him, he seems like an alright kinda lad. Is that going to be enough? Is there a plan? A vision? Or are we back to carefully manipulated, keep a lid on everything, status quo politics.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

Curious to know if the Trump apologists here (of the soft and strong variety) perceived his performance last night as acceptable or normal or whatever? Because to my mind it was merely a crystallization of what has been clear since the start, which is all the explanation that is needed as to why half the world is swallowing the anti-Trump rhetoric, even when it spills over into unmerited "pro-Trump's opponents rhetoric" (because, yes, Biden is an extremely poor candidate, and many voices on the left are ramping up this angle now, in light of how narrowly he's beating Trump).

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

"I saw the President's speech last night. It was very hard to watch. The President's allegations of large-scale fraud and theft of the election are just not substantiated. I'm not aware of any significant wrongdoing here."

Republican Senator Pat Toomey in Pennsylvania, the state which is likely to give Biden the victory definitively. Expect a landslide of similar statements from Republicans if Trump maintains last night's type of rhetoric past the moment where he should concede.

[Pedrito]

Et tu Brute

[The Butcher]

"I saw the President's speech last night. It was very hard to watch. The President's allegations of large-scale fraud and theft of the election are just not substantiated. I'm not aware of any significant wrongdoing here."

Republican Senator Pat Toomey in Pennsylvania, the state which is likely to give Biden the victory definitively. Expect a landslide of similar statements from Republicans if Trump maintains last night's type of rhetoric past the moment where he should concede.

The speech last night was insane alright  The GOP if clever won't hark back to the Rick Santorum type candidates, they will seek out another Trump like candidate for 2024 knowing it's a path to victory, maybe one more articulate and less of a mouth. If the democrats decide to push VP Harris throughout Bidens reign then you know they are building her for 2024...a mistake in my opinion but we shall see. Demographics over time favour the democrats, it's slowly but surely bringing Texas, Arizona, North Carolina & Georgia into contention, the cities and suburbs are growing and will outnumber the rural vote. The GOP have won the popular vote..what..once in the past 8 elections?

The FED will continue to print money as most central banks will across the globe to stave off a global hit...how long that lasts is anyones guess...heading into an era of negative interest rates and generational mortgages for crammed spaces most likely...a Japanese type future (check out their bank bust in the 90s and subsequent consequences). There is also the automation wave that will hit jobs harder than it will create and western countries need to start preparing now for when that ramps up circa 2025-2030+. A covid world for another year is likely too and the most Biden will try is mandatory masks...paper over the cracks. Hard to see a continuation of the only policy I agreed with Trump (trying to tackle China)...the damage was done in the 90s and America lost their manufacturing base and edge to Asia. In my eyes Trump was too divisive and always had the risk of being dangerous (speech last night and several other things we can point too) and I think the divide has ramped up in recent years...but after 4 years nearly 70 million thought Trump deserved a vote...that rightly or wrongly...legitimises him and his actions.

[Trev]

We're facing into a masssive global economic crisis. I seriously don't see Biden lasting more than 4 years. Beating Trump is grand but reality is going to set in very quickly and at least Trump seemed like he knew what he was doing or talked a good fight. Some dithering oul lad trying to keep up with the Chinese, Putin, the economic ctastrophe..no chance.

Ah now, you can't go on about the PR work by the liberal media whole spouting the propaganda of Biden being too old for the job that the conservative side were desperately pushing.

I'm not spouting anything. One look at JB and anyone would ask themselves if he will last. I honestly hope he's a great president and brings world peace. But, being as objective as possible here, trying to drown out all the other noise, I'd be fairly concerned. I have nothing against him, he seems like an alright kinda lad. Is that going to be enough? Is there a plan? A vision? Or are we back to carefully manipulated, keep a lid on everything, status quo politics.

Fair enough, I've just seen so much shite about his age when he's only a few years older than Trump. There's a good chance either of them could snuff it over the next four years, which goes back to what a shit choice the American public were given

[The Butcher]

Trump looking to frenzy up the crazies with his insanity ->

[Ollkiller]

True Biden is not inspiring with zero policy (overall a terrible candidate) but it was Trumps handling of the pandemic along with his idiotic loud mouth that lost him this race despite of his results. Long run for Biden will be retiring in 2022 at nearly 81 years old and leaving Harris to build up as the next candidate..which is a horrible idea I know but this is the democrats we are talking about. I would have preferred Andrew Yang myself if I had to pick but he gained zero traction with what he was saying.

Biden does have policies
https://joebiden.com/joes-vision/#

[Ollkiller]

Also Biden will the the magnolia or beige President. After the last 4 years thats not a bad thing.

[StoutAndAle]

Biden is 78 this month. Image that he (if elected) kicked the bucket between now and January. The craic would be would be something else. 

Cue the "Curb Your Enthusiasm" music.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

"You can't stop the count in one state and decide you want the count to continue in another state. That might be how you'd like to see the system work, but that's not how the system works."
Republican Senator Roy Blunt (4:20 duuuuudez!!!)

[Emphyrio]

Biden is in. And will be by a comfortable margin when all is said and done.

[Pedrito]

I see nothing wrong with making sure a democratic election is carried out fairly. The turnout was amazing. Think of some of the pathetic turnouts in elections in the past both here, the States etc. Keep a close eye on it all and make sure it's done correctly, then there can be no moaning.

[Ollkiller]

Biden is 78 this month. Image that he (if elected) kicked the bucket between now and January. The craic would be would be something else. 

Cue the "Curb Your Enthusiasm" music.

Haha. Reminds me of the Paul Gogarty Green Party curb video. Fucking hilarious.

https://youtu.be/uoMBvJ4mDfo

[Pedrito]

Biden is 78 this month. Image that he (if elected) kicked the bucket between now and January. The craic would be would be something else. 

Cue the "Curb Your Enthusiasm" music.

Haha. Reminds me of the Paul Gogarty Green Party curb video. Fucking hilarious.

https://youtu.be/uoMBvJ4mDfo

the 'fuck you' soundbites are class.