The Donald vs Big Tech

[Caomhaoin]

Trump definitely got the proud boy vote, if he didn't have it already (he did but still).

[blessed1]

Well that was a bit shit. Was hoping for more entertainment tbh. I did love when Biden told trump to shut up ha.

[Ducky]

Trump's comments at the end, calling for what essentially amounts to voter intimidation as if it's not a bother.......

They said some things alright. Calling it a debate would be a bit of a stretch though. What a joke.

Don't forget, he's definitely not a fascist.

[Caomhaoin]

Jaysus lad, let it go ffs 🤣🤣🤣

[Eoin McLove]

I think Biden came off as being much more focused and lucid, and in possession of something resembling a plan. Trump just waffled and threw insults without any real clarity of what his direction is for the country.

[Ollkiller]

I think Biden came off as being much more focused and lucid, and in possession of something resembling a plan. Trump just waffled and threw insults without any real clarity of what his direction is for the country.

Aye that was my view too. Biden just had to keep calm and be focused and let Trump keep doing his shouting act. Hopefully the next moderators can do a better job but thats being hopeful.

[Cailleach]

They both came off as two kids shouting at each other in the playground.  Biden's main appeal to  wavering voters is he's not Trump.  A lot of Americans must be thinking to themselves after watching that crap, is this the best we can do.

[Eoin McLove]

I think Biden made more of an appeal than merely playing the not-Trump angle. He was goaded incessantly and remained composed for the most part. He seemed to at least have some prepared responses whereas Trump was just winging every answer. The forest cities in Europe, for fuck sake! I mean, that was pure fantasy stuff... I dunno. Perhaps Biden is a weak candidate in the grand scheme of things but he looked to me like the real deal when contrasted with the flailing clown beside him.

[Eoin McLove]

That said, despite considering myself as a far middle person and having issues with a lot of the nutty left stuff that is currently en vogue, I utterly despise Trump. He is just the most unlikable character to have crawled into politics in recent times. I hope that we see the back of him in November, but I equally hope the BLM chaos gets reined in too. Bit of a car crash scenario all round.

[The Butcher]

Trump came off so deranged, the constant shouting and roaring and more incoherent than Biden...that could not have been the game plan his team came up with? But there would be no joy in voting for Biden after watching that "debate", his idea of giving 20 billion to Brazil to stop burning down the rainforests...I think that was actually...the only policy mention of the night from either of them?! Shambles.

But look, these debates never had any substance to them to begin with...and very little to be gained from either side. I could see Trump winning 2016 but I don't see much of a path towards victory for him now....but still plenty of time left until election day.

[astfgyl]

It's a bit mad how the debates sway people when all they have to do to judge Trump is look at how he has performed being in the position for the last 4 years.

If he has done good things, it's likely he will do them in the future. If he has done bad things, the same.

The problem with that approach I guess is how to judge Biden. The debates are a waste of time though, much like the ones we see in this country. More of a contest to see who can talk the most convincing shite before they get in and pretty much do none of it. The US approach actually seems to be like monkeys throwing shit at each other but not half as funny. Like not how good I will be, just how bad the other lad is.

[Caomhaoin]

This is it. Pure theatre, I don't think it'll substantially swing things (although Al Gore is said to have suffered with similar reaction to goading from W).

Still though, Trump came off in a very poor light, his tactics were clear, but they did backfire to an extent. Arrogant, dismissive. He behaved like a cock, and his advisors would want to be giving him a new strategy for  round 2.

[Eoin McLove]

Is he capable of strategizing? He seems like the ultimate wing and prayer type to me. Details? What are they? Ah sure,  I'll just say stuff and it'll be grand..

[Caomhaoin]

On the Biden side, it was absolutely laughable his dismissing Antifa as an 'idea'. If there was a lie count, I don't think Trump would have come out on top, particularly on the big issues (trump is one of those people who can't help but embellish).

But the interrupting and bellicose behaviour...dumb.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

It's a decent strategy by the Democrats though, to explicitly cast antifa as merely the moral notion of being anti-fascist, even if it is empirically laughable.