Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on November 06, 2024, 06:11:27 PMAm I on here talking about everything said on the unofficial propaganda arm of MAGA (i.e. Fox)? No. I mentioned something Tucker Carlson said because he said it from the podium of a MAGA rally. Context.

Yeah but you said that gullibility and detachment from reality are factors in Trump's win. It's highly doubtful you'd have said the same about democrat voters if your preferred candidate had come through.

Well to be fair to the DNC, no matter what stance they took on that one they were always going to alienate a massive amount of voters and I don't know how trump is getting away with it either because I don't see what he's going to do differently there, or indeed what anyone else might do. Do they upset millions of Islamic voters and anti genocide types or do they upset their Jewish donors?

No, I don't think anyone could win with that one. It's more divisive than covid and I didn't think that'd be a thing but here we are.

Harris just performed spectacularly badly with no charisma at all it really did look wafer thin upon any inspection. Had they come out of the blocks early with a Biden replacement maybe the Republicans might have thought twice about Trump. Maybe. I don't live there so can only speculate so much as well.

Well at least that's the end of the Biden and Harris era and hopefully there'll be a few lessons learned by the DNC after this one.

Also, the squirrel... that was symbolic

Oh, and just like everything else ever, I can see how a trump win will inevitably lead to digital ID and a surveillance state.

Quote from: Caomhaoin on November 06, 2024, 06:53:39 PM
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on November 06, 2024, 06:11:27 PMAm I on here talking about everything said on the unofficial propaganda arm of MAGA (i.e. Fox)? No. I mentioned something Tucker Carlson said because he said it from the podium of a MAGA rally. Context.

Yeah but you said that gullibility and detachment from reality are factors in Trump's win. It's highly doubtful you'd have said the same about democrat voters if your preferred candidate had come through.

That's because the DNC are imo better characterized by hypocrisy than bare-faced lying  :)

I was surprised to see Kamela tweeting for her acolytes to storm the capitol. I didn't think she had it in her. Fair play.

His speech was something else. He started off well enough for about the first 30 seconds, then it just devolved into a bunch of tangential, non-sequitur rambling. He's a little better than Biden, but it still seems like two people that escaped from the old folks home for the day and need to be gently ushered back.

I feel a little bad for the democrats (if not Biden or Harris themselves particularly) because I don't think there was much they could have done about the economy, and this win does feel like the populace punishing the democrats for the cost of living crisis; something that's happening everywhere. That plus there was no way America was ever going to be progressive enough to vote for a woman as president. I think Trump got very lucky with his timing in getting out at the right time with covid and avoiding the two big wars kicking off, plus getting back in as the economy is stabilizing (which he will of course take credit for). Will be very interesting to see what happens next as a big part of his campaign was sorting out the wars and I don't think he's actually going to do a thing about it.

Not seeing many silver linings this morning. Punk rock for the next few years is going to be lit?


Might even get a half decent Ministry album out of it!!

Ha, plenty of fodder there for sure
Wearing jeans and leather, not crackerjack clothes

This is partly what I dread- Trump-obsessed art and music. Fuck me, I can't think of anything more spiritually dismal.

Quote from: astfgyl on November 06, 2024, 09:17:32 PMMight even get a half decent Ministry album out of it!!

Haha,that's a given. Aul uncle AL last hurrahhh.

Quote from: Hellyeah on November 06, 2024, 09:37:49 PM
Quote from: astfgyl on November 06, 2024, 09:17:32 PMMight even get a half decent Ministry album out of it!!

Haha,that's a given. Aul uncle AL last hurrahhh.

This time he's definitely not coming back until next time  :laugh:

Quote from: Eoin McLove on November 06, 2024, 09:28:46 PMThis is partly what I dread- Trump-obsessed art and music. Fuck me, I can't think of anything more spiritually dismal.

It's funny because I've always enjoyed the Reagan references in 80s music, but it's weird to now be able to give real context to that artist mindset at the time.

Haha true that.  As a kid it was all remote, but now it's all too hum drum.

If someone's got a song about Russian ladies pissing on any lad, I want to hear it.

So....

Musk buys twitter for 44 billion and uses that to buy his way into a position in government by the leverage of using it to promote a trump victory.

Stakeholder Capitalism, anyone? Now where have I heard that before...?

Who'd have thought that the Amish lads would be blowing the trumpets to herald the horsemen of the technocratic apocalypse?




Anyway, I guess that's the end of any talk of Donald vs Big Tech from here on in.....