The Donald vs Big Tech

[Eoin McLove]

Americans seem to be somehow more susceptible to brain washing. Or maybe we are just getting the news about the odd simpleton outlier, which must be part of the story. I do think they have allowed themselves, through making politics a religion, to become vulnerable to being led by the nose in either direction. Don't get too deep into politics, people. Wear it lightly. It's serious business, but it's also a cesspool of complete bullshit and trickery. It's sad when these eejits end up harming themselves and the ones they love the most in the name of some silly ideology. Like, did they wear MAGA hats to their kid's fucking funeral? Tragic in more ways than one.

The unscrupulous behaviour of their leaders is another sickening story. I fear that this is the beginning of an endless downward spiral over there. I really hope the US can find its way back to reality some day soon

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

I've often wondered if there's a correlation between the level of BS and omission that's inherent to a given country's national myth (as in, the myth of how their nation came to be) and how susceptible its population will be to brainwashing.

[Blankety Blank]

I've often wondered if there's a correlation between the level of BS and omission that's inherent to a given country's national myth (as in, the myth of how their nation came to be) and how susceptible its population will be to brainwashing.

This would make a lot of sense. The whole country is built on lies, theft and genocide.
Reminds me of that Manic Street Preachers song "Ifwhiteamericatoldthetruthforonedayit'sworldwouldfallapart"

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

The drunkard adulterous Christian nationalist who wrote a book fantasizing about recreating the Crusades and also happens to be the current Secretary of Defense has put himself in it by adding the editor-in-chief of The Atlantic into a group Signal chat where the attacks on Yemen were being discussed. Maybe this administration will actually implode under the weight of its own idiocy.

[Ollkiller]

The drunkard adulterous Christian nationalist who wrote a book fantasizing about recreating the Crusades and also happens to be the current Secretary of Defense has put himself in it by adding the editor-in-chief of The Atlantic into a group Signal chat where the attacks on Yemen were being discussed. Maybe this administration will actually implode under the weight of its own idiocy.

His cabinet is full of amateurs who shouldn't be next or near a cabinet position. What a total clusterfuck.

[astfgyl]

Wonder how they'll try spin out of that one?

[Trev]

I don't even think they'll bother to put much of a spin on it, they just don't give a shite

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

Some kind of everyone makes mistakes BS at most I'm guessing.

[stearl]

The drunkard adulterous Christian nationalist who wrote a book fantasizing about recreating the Crusades and also happens to be the current Secretary of Defense has put himself in it by adding the editor-in-chief of The Atlantic into a group Signal chat where the attacks on Yemen were being discussed. Maybe this administration will actually implode under the weight of its own idiocy.

His cabinet is full of amateurs who shouldn't be next or near a cabinet position. What a total clusterfuck.

I saw somewhere Hegseth was referred to as the DUI candidate in a play on DEI    - not serious people.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

The obvious thing here is that the entire "LOCK HER UP!" debacle was over a far less serious potential security breach. In the present case, highly sensitive information was being discussed by several individuals outside of secure channels (that part is comparable but worse than what Clinton was accused of) and they then dropped a third party with no security clearance right into the middle of it. A journalist who Hegseth, initially at least, tried to dismiss as a radical "so-called journalist" who had been behind several "hoaxes." The White House has since admitted the error and hence that there was no hoax involved. Just idiocy compounded into actions worse than those for which Clinton needed to be LOCKED UP. And has this kind of thing happened before? As in, were other third parties dropped into group chats in which sensitive issues were being discussed illegally by members of the cabinet, etc.?

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

Oh wait: WH has changed story again... it's Goldberg who's doing spin, everything else is dandy:

Leavitt:
"Jeffrey Goldberg is well-known for his sensationalist spin. Here are the facts about his latest story:

1. No "war plans" were discussed.

2. No classified material was sent to the thread.

3. The White House Counsel's Office has provided guidance on a number of different platforms for President Trump's top officials to communicate as safely and efficiently as possible.

As the National Security Council stated, the White House is looking into how Goldberg's number was inadvertently added to the thread.

Thanks to the strong and decisive leadership of President Trump, and everyone in the group, the Houthi strikes were successful and effective. Terrorists were killed and that's what matters most to President Trump."

https://newrepublic.com/post/193132/white-house-leavitt-deny-war-plans-group-chat

[astfgyl]

Well that's a fuckin spin and a half!

[open face surgery]

They would try and tell you up is down if they thought it'd help them. A lot of people would believe them too, and back them up.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

True. Sure half the electorate seemingly believes them that "drain" means "fill to overflowing"

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

After the denials (e.g. Hegseth: "Nobody was texting war plans"), The Atlantic has published the rest of the exchange from the illegal chat Goldberg was added into ("illegal" because held outside of approved secure channels subject to state archiving, etc.)

Let us pause here for a moment to underscore a point. This Signal message shows that the U.S. secretary of defense texted a group that included a phone number unknown to him—Goldberg's cellphone—at 11:44 a.m. This was 31 minutes before the first U.S. warplanes launched, and two hours and one minute before the beginning of a period in which a primary target, the Houthi "Target Terrorist," was expected to be killed by these American aircraft. If this text had been received by someone hostile to American interests—or someone merely indiscreet, and with access to social media—the Houthis would have had time to prepare for what was meant to be a surprise attack on their strongholds. The consequences for American pilots could have been catastrophic.

https://archive.is/vnPIk

The worst, stupidest, most dishonest US cabinet of all time? Certainly a contender.

Also worth underlining one element the liberal Atlantic and its former IDF member editor-in-chief couldn't give a fuck about, precisely because it is standard US (and Israeli) practice:

At 2 p.m., Waltz responded: "Typing too fast. The first target – their top missile guy – we had positive ID of him walking into his girlfriend's building and it's now collapsed."

This is the selfsame strategy the IDF call "Where's Daddy?" Wait for a target to arrive home, regardless of whether that's a house or an entire apartment block, then raze it to the ground along with anyone who happens to be in it at the time.