Trump is going on Rogan today. Harris was suppose to be going on as well but the rumour is she decided against it at the last minute.

The only possible outcome is that Trump will potentially try and ease the middle east situation for bragging rights but even that's unlikely.

Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on October 25, 2024, 07:01:18 PMOnly clips I've seen is her floundering over their position on Gaza, which is completely untenable. I've been trying to get my head around it: the DNC supports Bibi, but Bibi wants Trump, who the DNC call fascist. So folk (i.e. "swing voters") who don't want a fascist (accepting the term for argument's sake) are being implicitly primed to also oppose a man (moreover called fascist by DNC equivalents in his own country) who the supposed alternative to fascism nevertheless supports.

It's insane. I don't recall voters being put in such a dissonant bind before.

Ah lad she has floundered on stringing a sentence together since she was announced. What are her policies at all?

I meant the only clips I've seen from yesterday's CNN yoke specifically.

#3799 October 26, 2024, 08:34:30 AM Last Edit: October 26, 2024, 08:37:08 AM by Ollkiller
Quote from: astfgyl on October 25, 2024, 11:25:17 PM
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on October 25, 2024, 07:01:18 PMOnly clips I've seen is her floundering over their position on Gaza, which is completely untenable. I've been trying to get my head around it: the DNC supports Bibi, but Bibi wants Trump, who the DNC call fascist. So folk (i.e. "swing voters") who don't want a fascist (accepting the term for argument's sake) are being implicitly primed to also oppose a man (moreover called fascist by DNC equivalents in his own country) who the supposed alternative to fascism nevertheless supports.

It's insane. I don't recall voters being put in such a dissonant bind before.

Ah lad she has floundered on stringing a sentence together since she was announced. What are her policies at all?

They werent that hard to find at all. It's on her website. Link https://kamalaharris.com/issues/

Also if you want to see her speaking coherently look up her interrogating Bill Barr at the senate hearings. She was a prosecutor.

You want lads to look her up speaking coherently? Ha ha. Ah yer messin now.

Quote from: Caomhaoin on October 26, 2024, 08:47:38 AMYou want lads to look her up speaking coherently? Ha ha. Ah yer messin now.

Couldn't give a fuck what lads do tbh.

Quote from: mickO))) on October 25, 2024, 07:36:05 PMTrump is going on Rogan today. Harris was suppose to be going on as well but the rumour is she decided against it at the last minute.

Listened to it this morning, very enjoyable. Talked a bit more UFC than I was expecting but he came off well. Good point about Whoopi Goldberg and those other harpies loving him when he was just a media personality and turning on him utterly as soon as he got into (the wrong) politics.

I'm sure the media is all hands on deck to take stuff out of context, but they're sat nothing you ask me. 6 million views on YouTube alone already.

Quote from: Caomhaoin on October 26, 2024, 10:09:15 AM
Quote from: mickO))) on October 25, 2024, 07:36:05 PMTrump is going on Rogan today. Harris was suppose to be going on as well but the rumour is she decided against it at the last minute.

Listened to it this morning, very enjoyable. Talked a bit more UFC than I was expecting but he came off well. Good point about Whoopi Goldberg and those other harpies loving him when he was just a media personality and turning on him utterly as soon as he got into (the wrong) politics.

I'm sure the media is all hands on deck to take stuff out of context, but they're sat nothing you ask me. 6 million views on YouTube alone already.

Watching some of it here myself and he's coming across very well and is pretty funny. Good move by him to go on Rogan. I really hope Harris does something similar so we can all see how eloquent she is  :laugh:

Quote from: Ollkiller on October 26, 2024, 08:34:30 AM
Quote from: astfgyl on October 25, 2024, 11:25:17 PM
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on October 25, 2024, 07:01:18 PMOnly clips I've seen is her floundering over their position on Gaza, which is completely untenable. I've been trying to get my head around it: the DNC supports Bibi, but Bibi wants Trump, who the DNC call fascist. So folk (i.e. "swing voters") who don't want a fascist (accepting the term for argument's sake) are being implicitly primed to also oppose a man (moreover called fascist by DNC equivalents in his own country) who the supposed alternative to fascism nevertheless supports.

It's insane. I don't recall voters being put in such a dissonant bind before.

Ah lad she has floundered on stringing a sentence together since she was announced. What are her policies at all?

They werent that hard to find at all. It's on her website. Link https://kamalaharris.com/issues/

Also if you want to see her speaking coherently look up her interrogating Bill Barr at the senate hearings. She was a prosecutor.

Somehow I don't think she came up with any of that by herself any more than Biden did but it's better looking than I expected to be fair about it. She's as thick as two short planks though, as much as trump is a narcissist. During the entire campaign she hasn't come across well even once unless one considers random wild cackling to count as coming across well.

I honestly thought trump was on a hiding to nothing this time around because he was so unwanted last time that Biden got in while being obviously senile so the Democrats have made an awful mistake here and there must be some actually coherent members of the Democrat party wondering why they didn't get a shot at it given how inept she is, but then again it was basically a coup on Biden that has her running at all

#3805 October 26, 2024, 12:31:36 PM Last Edit: October 26, 2024, 12:33:12 PM by Caomhaoin
She was the least popular of all the candidates in the primary when Biden got the ticket, and no hope she getting was asked to be his running mate if she weren't a woman and let's say 'exotic' looking. Lads are desperately trying to convince themselves she's viable or qualified or a safe bet or whatever else I've read (and that's just on this forum). Every man Jack knows deep down she's an appalling candidate whose only redeeming factor is that she is not the other lad. All the guff about defending democracy and all the other choreographed nonsense in the news, no-one has voted for her.

I'll give her one thing, she looks very well for 60. But that's it.

Quote from: astfgyl on October 26, 2024, 10:55:31 AMGood move by him to go on Rogan. I really hope Harris does something similar so we can all see how eloquent she is  :laugh:

Trump has been trying to get onto the podcast for the last 3 years but Joe wouldn't have him on. He doesn't like Trump although in the last year or so he does seem to be warming up to him. Joe even wore his black shirt that he only wears when he's doing commentary for the UFC  :laugh:

I was looking forward to Harris going on more but it would have destroyed her she would have just been talking in circles. Her team and security staff met with Joe last week to discuss her going on but it looks like she pulled out at the last minute. It's funny now seeing everywhere even on here all the people who thought she had a chance are now starting to come to the realisation that she hasn't a hope and the more she opens her mouth the worse things are looking for her.

Evaluating Harris's "objective" qualities as a candidate would be all well and good were she not up against someone who, apart from the fact that he happens to have occupied the position before, is objectively less qualified in terms of standard political qualifications. There's no desperation needed to demonstrate that. You not agreeing is a different matter, but there's no scramble: it's easy to defend Harris as a better (this being different to good) candidate because Trump remains a thoroughly despicable person who appeals only to the cynical or those who take his propaganda at face value, something that literally demands stupidity. As in, you truly have to be stupid, or force yourself to be stupid, to accept at face value many of the things he says which have simply no connection to reality. MAGA has made, is making, and plans to continue to make the US stupider. Explicitly so.

Basically, I stick to my position that MAGA has all the worst and most hypocritical aspects the DNC also undeniably has... but then a whole other level of shit on top.

I haven't liked her at all at any stage and think she is by far a worse candidate than trump, but because he was so divisive, it seemed to me that all the Democrats had to do was get somebody to play towards the centre a bit and it should have been an easy win. But instead they picked her for some reason and now it looks bad for their chances, even with all the celebrity endorsements and media in her favour. Seems like a real own goal.

Now saying all that, I think a sneaky tenner on her to win could still be worth it because the place there looks so divided that they'll just pick along party lines instead of policies so it's probably not going to be as comprehensive a victory for Trump as right leaning media would have us believeand I still think there's a chance she'll be sworn in.

You're a great lad for tarring people who disagree with you as cynical, stupid etc etc. Fellas with intellectual biceps far more impressive than yours (only my actual biceps are bigger than yours) are backing Trump, maybe you can explain why?

He said himself in the interview be exaggerates, he's a politician now, what do you expect? Donald Trump talks pish. Absolutely. Why not listen to the interview and critique his performance instead of repeating your anti-Trump manifesto for the umpteenth time.

Why not pull up Tim Walz on his endless stream of bullshit? You were licking his earlobe a few months back.