The Donald vs Big Tech

[astfgyl]

Further to my previous post, regarding social media, I see reports of John Sullivan being a member of BLM, Antifa, working with CNN, being a secret MAGA patriot, trying to take down BLM from the inside, being a government/secret service shill and even a poor confused young lad. It's like pick a narrative and run. There are some posts from last november from BLM groups warning of him being an agitator ready to besmirch their clean reputation and other stuff saying he was trying to besmirch the MAGA good name.

The whole story whatever it is, is certainly representative of the current mess with the level of conflicting reports which already abound. Even if the real one does come to light, how many people will have made their decision on which to believe before that?

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

Not I!

Who is John Sullivan?

[astfgyl]

Some bloke who was at the Capitol and also active in BLM. Was interviewed on CNN that evening and now video (allegedly) emerges of him celebrating the break-in saying "we did it" to the woman he was with. Cue many wildly varying narratives as to his motives. He is currently under arrest somewhere.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

So, a hooligan, basically.

[astfgyl]

Seemingly so. I think there will be more coming out in the wash but I think you are likely on the money.

[Nazgûl]

Watched an interview with a cop that was at the scene earlier. Groups of people grabbing at his ammo clips, badge, etc. At one point he said there were people shouting "kill him with his own gun." Scummy pricks. Anybody here making excuses for them needs to get fucking real. "People have had enough of BLM protests and this is what you get" mentality. Get real.

Edit: disclaimer that I don't condone the BLM rioting either, but everything on this forum needs to be spelled out most of the time.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

https://twitter.com/oliverdarcy/status/1350170423602896896?s=19

Legal threat leads to complete retraction of accusations levelled against Dominion, stating now they were "completely false"

Be careful Nazgul; that's liberal favourable hearsay there. Only conservative favourable hearsay is allowed on here

[Nazgûl]

Yeah I just spend enough time reading and not responding and every once in a while flip the table over But look, I have absolutely no reason to believe that cop was lying about that particular situation he found himself in, so fuck them all. 

[Ollkiller]

Watched an interview with a cop that was at the scene earlier. Groups of people grabbing at his ammo clips, badge, etc. At one point he said there were people shouting "kill him with his own gun." Scummy pricks. Anybody here making excuses for them needs to get fucking real. "People have had enough of BLM protests and this is what you get" mentality. Get real.

Edit: disclaimer that I don't condone the BLM rioting either, but everything on this forum needs to be spelled out most of the time.

Bang on. That cop said he had to shout I have kids and then some people copped on and probably saved his life. As the cop said for those people he thought thank you, but fuck you for being here. Those rioters were indeed fucking scum.

[astfgyl]

Watched an interview with a cop that was at the scene earlier. Groups of people grabbing at his ammo clips, badge, etc. At one point he said there were people shouting "kill him with his own gun." Scummy pricks. Anybody here making excuses for them needs to get fucking real. "People have had enough of BLM protests and this is what you get" mentality. Get real.

Edit: disclaimer that I don't condone the BLM rioting either, but everything on this forum needs to be spelled out most of the time.

Bang on. That cop said he had to shout I have kids and then some people copped on and probably saved his life. As the cop said for those people he thought thank you, but fuck you for being here. Those rioters were indeed fucking scum.

All rioters are scum from one perspective or another. Their main problem is that they all think they have good reason and the reasons never get properly addressed.

I see a lot of the "who has the better reason to be breaking the place up?" lately and I honestly think all of them and none of them. Whole thing is fucked. No winner.

[Ollkiller]

Watched an interview with a cop that was at the scene earlier. Groups of people grabbing at his ammo clips, badge, etc. At one point he said there were people shouting "kill him with his own gun." Scummy pricks. Anybody here making excuses for them needs to get fucking real. "People have had enough of BLM protests and this is what you get" mentality. Get real.

Edit: disclaimer that I don't condone the BLM rioting either, but everything on this forum needs to be spelled out most of the time.

Bang on. That cop said he had to shout I have kids and then some people copped on and probably saved his life. As the cop said for those people he thought thank you, but fuck you for being here. Those rioters were indeed fucking scum.

All rioters are scum from one perspective or another. Their main problem is that they all think they have good reason and the reasons never get properly addressed.

I see a lot of the "who has the better reason to be breaking the place up?" lately and I honestly think all of them and none of them. Whole thing is fucked. No winner.

I don't disagree with any of that. I think the common denominator is a lot of people on all sides are fucking clems.

[astfgyl]

I reckon most of them have the same basic feeling going on but it just comes out for different causes. I probably identify with most of what every protester is breaking things over in one way or another and yet I have a normal life to be trying to keep up with so not really in a position to commit myself to anything other than getting up in the morning and keeping the dinner on the table and clothes on the kids' back. Probably in the vast majority but where is the headline in that?

Experiencing the world's events vicariously as I do it's easy to get caught up in thinking that everyone is gone demented but for the most part shit just goes on and the major difference these days is that some bollix going on in some far away parts of the world suddenly feels less far away than it used to.

Weird how I have so many thoughts about the US situation and it's all so pointless to think about from my perspective where I can do fuck all about anything.

It's enough to make me feel like smashing things

[Pedrito]

Fuck that. First world temper tantrums. I spent time in the States working. You could sneeze and get a job. They have the best of everything: restaurants, nightlife, the women are unbelievable goers, the countryside is amazing, you'd get a mortgage no problem at all. There's a whole lot of places could do with you worrying about them instead.

[astfgyl]

Amazing that they have all that potential and yet seem intent on eating themselves from the inside out

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

Yes, it's the Guardian, but it's also about someone who took a private jet from Texas to participate in the Capitol protests. That might be one other significant difference between this instance and the BLM riots; I don't think even Jedward arrived by private jet!

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/16/us-capitol-rioters-donald-trump-pardons

Interesting to see what Trump does here; technically they do deserve a pardon, but only insofar as he would be taking the blame for them...and he's really not much of a Christ-like figure in that regard!