Coronavirus

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[astfgyl]

The more they write, the less we read.... 

[astfgyl]

BBC: "Hundreds of people marched from Hyde Park to Westminster"

Reality:

https://youtu.be/NkLgR_l002U

Hundreds. Technically not lying, BBC, but not hard to see why people might not trust national media so much.

Sky news reporting between 400 and 500 in the march.

Watched nearly an hour of that and didn't see one person getting the shit batoned out of them. Waste of my time as well as theirs...

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/03/how-do-you-treat-coronavirus-here-are-physicians-best-strategies

[astfgyl]

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/03/how-do-you-treat-coronavirus-here-are-physicians-best-strategies

That's a bit depressing. No wonder folks cling to faint hope when articles like that give none.

Here's a very reasonable guy who is not a conspiracy theorist in any way at all and has been a mine of decent info since the beginning speaking about HCQ trials and explaining some of the deeds done to discredit it. Sure, it may not work, but actively trying to discredit it is a different story. No one trying to actively discredit the monoclonal antibodies or vaccines though, oddly enough.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uzXHnUViro

Also not a mention of Ivermectin being tried in that piece, for some reason, but this beaut:

"Most patients also get remdesivir, the lone COVID-19 treatment that's been formally approved by FDA." Which has been shown to do nothing, but costs a fortune, so let's keep trying.

Here is Dr Campbell with a fair review of the evidence around the IVM, which is well worth a look.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLWQtT7dHGE

Edit: Further reading re IVM and a nod given to Remdesivir, which is still in use at 1000 quid a go..

https://www.manilatimes.net/2021/03/21/opinion/columnists/ivermectin-game-changer-vs-covid-19-whats-the-controversy/853847/

[astfgyl]

Here, for balance, some potentially good news:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/22/business/astrazeneca-covid-vaccine.html

From my best pals at the NYT and Big pharma, but sure fuck it if it works it works. Hopefully these trials weren't designed to succeed like the initial ones and in opposition to how the therapeutic trials have been rigged.

[Kurt Cocaine]

Double Mutant Variant coming your way.... 

[Mower Liberation Front]

We've now got a New York variant, which is apparently starting to spread aroung the world, in addition to the California variant, the UK variant, the South African variant, the Brazil variant. Is anyone still catching the original one?

And isn't it nice how everyone can refer to the other strains with geographical names without any problem whatsoever, but dare to use that geographical name for the original, and the shit hits the fan.

[Caomhaoin]

Yeah it's gas. Fox got called all kinds of racists for calling it the Wuhan Corona Virus. Which is accurate, and making jokes about Chinese phone books or what have you.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

Wasn't part of the reason for not wanting it to be referred to as the China virus (or whatever) that the US is over-flowing with violent idiots just looking for any vague excuse to lash out at others? That's much less likely to happen to someone wearing an NYC cap or a Brazil jersey, isn't it? If you actually think about it for a second, right? Right? Right.

[astfgyl]

Yes, we must be careful to avoid discrimination for certain groups while being absolutely fine with it for others. We must shape our response based on our assumptions that some countries have more stupid people in them than others. Kent variant AOK, China version not so much. Have we stopped using the uk based nomenclature to avoid bringing the general undercurrent of racism towards the British to the surface in this country? No,we are too civilised for all that lark... oh wait, we sort of did with the B.1.1.7 so maybe we are in the dumb fuck club as well.

By the way, that scary variant stuff is a complete load of shite and a ready made excuse if the jabs don't perform as hoped and also the key to eternal booster shots and lockdown whenever it suits. If anyone wants to look up how B.1.1.7 is detected vs the o.g version it's a bit of a laugh.

There's a version now which can't be detected by the current tests. No really. It's called the white person variant so as not to upset anyone.

[Kurt Cocaine]

Chay-nah Virus......


Chay-nah Virus......


Chay-nah Virus......

[astfgyl]

Don't be so white, man.

On a different note https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/irish-pubs-update-rules-bars-23784854

I can honestly say that if that's how the pubs have to operate when reopening they can go fuck.


https://edition.cnn.com/videos/health/2020/09/28/coronavirus-wrap-white-house-responds-dr-atlas-criticism-lead-field-vpx.cnn

Watch and weep..

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

Yes, we must be careful to avoid discrimination for certain groups while being absolutely fine with it for others. We must shape our response based on our assumptions that some countries have more stupid people in them than others.

So you think Fox and Trump weren't playing to the gallery by choosing to call it the "China virus" rather than, say, its actual name of SARS-CoV-2? Whatever about Trump, Fox regularly work on the basis of an assumption that their audience is composed largely of highly manipulable idiots who will consistently come back for more and more if you stroke their sensibilities in just the right way whenever you can, consequences be-damned. I mean, that's been Murdoch's (among other media moguls of course) modus operandi around the globe for decades.

[astfgyl]

Yes, we must be careful to avoid discrimination for certain groups while being absolutely fine with it for others. We must shape our response based on our assumptions that some countries have more stupid people in them than others.

So you think Fox and Trump weren't playing to the gallery by choosing to call it the "China virus" rather than, say, its actual name of SARS-CoV-2? Whatever about Trump, Fox regularly work on the basis of an assumption that their audience is composed largely of highly manipulable idiots who will consistently come back for more and more if you stroke their sensibilities in just the right way whenever you can, consequences be-damned. I mean, that's been Murdoch's (among other media moguls of course) modus operandi around the globe for decades.

Ah yeah they were 100 percent aiming to please a certain xenophobic (patriotic? ) element, and although the argument could be made that the actions of the chinese government and the WHO in the initial stages contributed greatly to the situation we find ourselves in, it's not an argument I'd be willing to stand over given that the evidence points to the thing being in circulation long before we or even the chinese heard of it. They basically appealed to the stereotypical trump supporter with that chy na stuff in much the same way the Irish nationalists here use the unfairness of lockdowns to drum up support for whatever it is that they actually stand for. 

Tldr I agree with you and I was mostly just bollixing in the response, making a joke of the conflating of the nomenclature with woke culture