Quote from: astfgyl on March 04, 2021, 05:21:59 PM
Ok lads, some info if you know anyone who needs help.

https://www.newstalk.com/news/what-to-do-if-a-loved-falls-down-the-conspiracy-theory-rabbit-hole-1159673

The mainstream media love to point out how bad believing things you read online is. Their grip on the public consciousness is threatened now more than ever. They threw out the one advantage they had over alternative media about seven years ago. When they stopped dealing in facts and opted instead for towing the government line they signed their own death warrant. Impartial, factual and unbiased reporting is the only way they can save their dying industry.

They're fucked now so!

Yes, let's look to Israel.

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/irish-pubs-update-leo-varadkar-23606942

Now let's look to what the EU have had in the works since at least 2018

https://t.co/vSV8L6GeeL?amp=1.

It's a pdf unfortunately but do look at it and don't think for a second that these passes have anything to do with covid or a safe return to the pub.

Quote from: astfgyl on March 05, 2021, 04:56:26 PM
https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/irish-pubs-update-leo-varadkar-23606942

QuoteJamie Redknapp 'not happy' as ex-wife Louise airs their dirty laundry in tell-all book

Imagine, there's people who give a fuck about Jamie Redknapp and Louise in 2021!

#2644 March 05, 2021, 05:35:35 PM Last Edit: March 05, 2021, 05:44:10 PM by Nazgûl
Quote from: astfgyl on March 05, 2021, 04:56:26 PM
Yes, let's look to Israel.

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/irish-pubs-update-leo-varadkar-23606942

Now let's look to what the EU have had in the works since at least 2018

https://t.co/vSV8L6GeeL?amp=1.

It's a pdf unfortunately but do look at it and don't think for a second that these passes have anything to do with covid or a safe return to the pub.

The amount of legal and ethical scrutiny (which already is being highlighted by many) this will need to go under before any sort of working system is in place will be massive, so I wouldn't be quick to pass judgement on it yet personally. Although I'm only seeing it from the point of view of keeping people safe against a virus. I'm not sure as to what dreaded or esoteric reasons for implementing you're insinuating.

I mean that last part in all honesty, I still can't grasp what the bigger picture is in your mind. (bear in mind also I'm not following this thread to the post)

I've had a vaccination passport for years. Well, that's not true, I lost it. I do hope the vaccination centre have a digital record though; some of those shots were damn expensive, and good for up to 10-15 years!

Quote from: Nazgûl on March 05, 2021, 05:35:35 PM
Quote from: astfgyl on March 05, 2021, 04:56:26 PM
Yes, let's look to Israel.

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/irish-pubs-update-leo-varadkar-23606942

Now let's look to what the EU have had in the works since at least 2018

https://t.co/vSV8L6GeeL?amp=1.

It's a pdf unfortunately but do look at it and don't think for a second that these passes have anything to do with covid or a safe return to the pub.

The amount of legal and ethical scrutiny (which already is being highlighted by many) this will need to go under before any sort of working system is in place will be massive, so I wouldn't be quick to pass judgement on it yet personally. Although I'm only seeing it from the point of view of keeping people safe against a virus. I'm not sure as to what dreaded or esoteric reasons for implementing you're insinuating.

I mean that last part in all honesty, I still can't grasp what the bigger picture is in your mind. (bear in mind also I'm not following this thread to the post)

Nothing dreaded or esoteric. Just pointing out that this is being painted as some sort of new idea due to covid, but in fact the plan for the common vaccination passport has been available on the EU website for years.

The big picture in my mind is not any one single overarching picture at all. What I do see however is that an opportunity has been presented, with the emergence of this novel virus, to every rotten profiteering entity who wants to better their own lot and worsen mine. Another example of the type of thing I mean is today's news that over 20 German politicians are making massive profits from the masks (source: https://www.sueddeutsche.de/politik/masken-lobbyismus-bundestag-korruption-1.5225744). Things like that, and many of them. Look at the UK's awarding of contracts for covid related products and services. It is in the best interests of big businesses to keep this going while the getting is good, to the extent it has been blown out of all proportion. Have a look at this BMJ article regarding the Wellcome trust and the profits they are generating (https://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n556) and then look at every single pandemic pushing scientist that appears in the media and they are all funded by the Wellcome trust or have links to the pharma industry. These people do not want to save us all, they want personal gain and to expand their customer base to include everyone. The likes of Tony Blair then sticking his oar in saying we need a vaccine passport and we all know his track record with the truth. So no, it's not any single big plan that I see, but thousands of smaller ones all taking the same opportunity while it's there. The money and power and social control involved in all of this is head spinning. The stuff I mention here is only from the last couple of days and there are so many more every day. No weird arsehole of the internet stuff or bitchute videos either. All official stuff in the public domain. I'm more than happy to be challenged on any of this stuff I post or say but it all checks out and I can post any of the links for any of the things I point out, to show it isn't shite I'm talking or conspiracy theories I'm spreading.

The news or the papers or any of the practitioners of the lost art of investigative reporting will mention or publish this stuff for general public consumption. There is no balance in the debate.

Now it is getting to the stage where there is talk of making my 5 year old sons wear a fucking mask all day in school when there is no actual evidence that the masks actually work other than a sort of idea that they might and fuck it every time I dig into anything around this shit it doesn't hold up to scrutiny. Not the disease itself, but the response to it is what I mean when I say it doesn't hold up. Keep seeing all this follow the science shit. Whose science exactly? NPHET saying pcr tests must be used instead of rapid antigen tests for the last year when a member of NPHET runs a PCR testing lab which makes money from testing. The shit goes on and on and the lists are endless.

Think about the irony of experts saying you'll kill your grannies when there were patients transferred from hospitals to nursing homes without being tested. Who killed the grannies lads? When is the enquiry? Look at Cuomo in NY, hailed by oul Fauci as the gold standard in pandemic management. Except now it turns out he is in serious shit for transferring positive patients into nursing homes and his pals are gone fierce quiet on him. Like I said, the level of bollixing worldwide and the fear being pumped out doesn't really hold up but here we still are.

Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on March 05, 2021, 06:34:14 PM
I've had a vaccination passport for years. Well, that's not true, I lost it. I do hope the vaccination centre have a digital record though; some of those shots were damn expensive, and good for up to 10-15 years!

I'm 99% sure all of those records are kept. My wife needed proof of all her shots lately for a new job and was sent copies of all the original documents in no time, going right back to birth.


Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on March 05, 2021, 05:24:45 PM
Quote from: astfgyl on March 05, 2021, 04:56:26 PM
https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/irish-pubs-update-leo-varadkar-23606942

QuoteJamie Redknapp 'not happy' as ex-wife Louise airs their dirty laundry in tell-all book

Imagine, there's people who give a fuck about Jamie Redknapp and Louise in 2021!


Is that supposed to in some way diminish the credibility of the Varadkar quotes, them being published in a rag paper?

Quote from: astfgyl on March 05, 2021, 08:00:57 PM
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on March 05, 2021, 05:24:45 PM
Quote from: astfgyl on March 05, 2021, 04:56:26 PM
https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/irish-pubs-update-leo-varadkar-23606942

QuoteJamie Redknapp 'not happy' as ex-wife Louise airs their dirty laundry in tell-all book

Imagine, there's people who give a fuck about Jamie Redknapp and Louise in 2021!


Is that supposed to in some way diminish the credibility of the Varadkar quotes, them being published in a rag paper?

No, it just jumped out at me from the sidebar. It's like when people send links to stories from the Mail; you invariably end up just staring at the thumbnails of celebrities in bikinis which seems to be 90% of their related stories.

Here is another good one. NPHET yesterday announced 39 deaths, average age of 81, and age range of 0 to 97.

This means that they have counted the 4 stillbirths mentioned by the deputy CMO that have been in no way proven to be due to covid. No wonder I keep calling chicanery.

Let's pick at it a little...

From Irish Examiner https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40238090.html

"The Deputy CMO has said the Department of Health is aware of four preliminary reports of stillbirths associated with a condition called 'Covid Placentitis.'

Dr Ronan Glynn said the reports should be interpreted "with caution", given that coroners have not yet concluded their findings."

Ok so, why then add them into the total, given no one knows if it was that or not?

So that's 39 deaths minus the 4 stillbirths gives us 35.

Then take away the "Twelve more occurred in February, 13 in January and three occurred last year. One other death remains under investigation." which gives us 35 minus 12 minus 13 minus 3 minus 1, equalling a total of 6 new deaths to be announcing, without any mention of the age or the condition of said patients.

See what happens when it is even picked at in the slightest way? 39 becomes 6.

That's numberwang.

Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on March 05, 2021, 08:20:28 PM
No, it just jumped out at me from the sidebar. It's like when people send links to stories from the Mail; you invariably end up just staring at the thumbnails of celebrities in bikinis which seems to be 90% of their related stories.

That is fair and true. I always end up looking at the pictures of scantily clad women as well. They are both fantastic and also like a sort of novocaine for the brain

And The Guardian can fuck away off too.....


https://youtu.be/7Qj8FNqWs5E

Haha, "What is their intent?" Hahaha

https://twitter.com/Corks96FM/status/1368203100562092041

Look at these violent, far-right bollixes with their violent, far-right rhetoric. Scum the whole lot of these Covidiots....

Or...

Quote from: astfgyl on March 06, 2021, 02:45:38 PM
https://twitter.com/Corks96FM/status/1368203100562092041

Look at these violent, far-right bollixes with their violent, far-right rhetoric. Scum the whole lot of these Covidiots....

Or...

Definitely the kind of speech that needs to be amplified, and preferably bundled in with absolutely no new world order type extrapolations as it's being spread along.

I agree. It's those sort of points that affect the ordinary joe and jane rather than some plan for the transhumanist enslavement of the human race. I also wouldn't deny for a second that simple points like this have been pounced upon by those who will simply protest against anything at all and are only crying out for a bit of violence in their lives to make them feel like they are doing something.

I really hope this stays perfectly peaceful, and that goes for the Gardai as well as the protesters.