The Dahl family have come out and apologised for remarks made by the man himself in 1983. "There is a trait in the Jewish character that does provoke animosity, maybe it's a kind of lack of generosity towards non-Jews."

The poor Jews get an awful doing.

Cancel the cunt, tear up all his books, find any statues or waxworks of him and tear them down, ban all films based on his works and deny he ever existed from here on in. That should be a reasonable enough response. Then 20 minutes taking the knee to remind ourselves how virtuous we are.

Forced apologies on behalf of dead people for relatively meek comments taken totally out of context and era.

Amazing

Quote from: Caomhaoin on December 06, 2020, 05:19:58 PM
Forced apologies on behalf of dead people for relatively meek comments taken totally out of context and era.

Not quite sure how 1983 and 1990 can be "out of era" for the comments in question...? From what I read this morning (albeit in passing), the apologies, for what they are, were slipped into backpages on the official website, but have been amplified to front and centre by the media.

#1204 December 06, 2020, 05:45:03 PM Last Edit: December 06, 2020, 05:49:24 PM by Caomhaoin
1983 and 2020 are clearly different eras, and those remarks would barely have raised an eyebrow at the time, which you know perfectly well.

No obstante, and regardless of where they were 'slipped in', only a committed Stalinist re-education advocate like vous would try to explain this shite away.

Why have Jews always had a hard time? Is it the Jesus thing? They Shylock stereotype? Or the weird hairdos?

Quote from: Caomhaoin on December 06, 2020, 05:45:03 PM
1983 and 2020 are clearly different eras, and those remarks would barely have raised an eyebrow at the time, which you know perfectly well.

Statements are from 1983 and 1990, but in either case this just isn't true. Those remarks would have and did raise eyebrows at the time. He was, in fact, asked himself to apologize for the remarks, but refused. Which is his right, and takes nothing away from his works.

There's nothing being "explained away", but it simply is true that anti-semitic remarks have been considered beyond the pale for a very long time, especially in the UK and US.

#1207 December 06, 2020, 06:21:42 PM Last Edit: December 06, 2020, 06:23:26 PM by Caomhaoin
They are wildly different eras in the sense that communist style show trials by social media are an almost daily event now, and even the dead aren't safe from the mob. Do you think they'll dig up Martin McGuinness' bones soon and string him up á la Cromwell in 1660 until he apologises for the dodgy stuff he came out with in 1985? They might.

You simply cannot compare this bloodthirsty hysteria to the early 80's. I'm not saying prejudice was accepted or acceptable but by and large, people had what they and I considered to be more important on their minds and to deal with than a vaguely 'offensive' comment.  It was the commies who shuffled you out in front of a camera, pointing guns at you until you apologised, not the free world.

Unfortunately with all the pansies and crybabies with media to socialise and virtue to signal in 2020, that's no longer the case.

Quote from: Emphyrio on December 06, 2020, 06:05:13 PM
Why have Jews always had a hard time? Is it the Jesus thing? They Shylock stereotype? Or the weird hairdos?

Being successful in business and flourishing in Europe bred envy, resentment and eventually hatred. The killing Jesus didn't help, of course.

The Spanish crown borrowed heavily from them in the 1490's and instead of paying them back, just fucked them all out of the country. There are even worse examples from earlier in European history, and of course, the later atrocities we all know about.

Just stupid....if he was still alive his reaction would probably be suck my dick..its my view so fuck you....so what's the point in apologising on his behalf?

Quote from: Caomhaoin on December 06, 2020, 06:28:37 PM
Quote from: Emphyrio on December 06, 2020, 06:05:13 PM
Why have Jews always had a hard time? Is it the Jesus thing? They Shylock stereotype? Or the weird hairdos?

Being successful in business and flourishing in Europe bred envy, resentment and eventually hatred.



I thought there would have to have been more than that to it, without actually having gone and researched the area myself. Seems a silly reason. I mean, they don't go around beheading folk.

#1211 December 06, 2020, 06:38:37 PM Last Edit: December 06, 2020, 06:41:05 PM by Nazgûl
Quote from: Emphyrio on December 06, 2020, 01:28:08 PM
The Dahl family have come out and apologised for remarks made by the man himself in 1983. "There is a trait in the Jewish character that does provoke animosity, maybe it's a kind of lack of generosity towards non-Jews."

The poor Jews get an awful doing.

You left out the next sentence of that quote, which would fairly amp up the controversy of it I reckon for many.

"... I mean, there's always a reason why anti-anything crops up anywhere; even a stinker like Hitler didn't just pick on them for no reason."



Quote from: Nazgûl on December 06, 2020, 06:38:37 PM
Quote from: Emphyrio on December 06, 2020, 01:28:08 PM
The Dahl family have come out and apologised for remarks made by the man himself in 1983. "There is a trait in the Jewish character that does provoke animosity, maybe it's a kind of lack of generosity towards non-Jews."

The poor Jews get an awful doing.

You left out the next sentence of that quote.

"... I mean, there's always a reason why anti-anything crops up anywhere; even a stinker like Hitler didn't just pick on them for no reason."

I did, because anything Hitler/Jew related is too obvious.