The PC and Perpetually Offended Brigade

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

Gender affirming, boo. Opinion affirming, yay! 

[son of the Morrigan]

 

[Kunt 4 Life]

Buck Angel is an infamous ex of Lana Wachowski (of The Matrix fame) and real piece of work. Didn't know he'd shifted right all the way to playing house negro though.

Wait, didn't the two brothers who made the matrix become women? When did Buck jump aboard, before or after?

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

Yeah. His wife left him for, then, Larry Wachowski. So he went to the tabloids with the story, in which he outed Larry as a transsexual.

[astfgyl]

Okay probably a little bit stirring a pot of sorts here but I thought of a question in my head as I often do..

So without researching of any kind beyond what one already knows...

Is there such a thing as Ethnic Irish?

It seems to be the crux of a lot of discord in the media and in political discourse in general the last few years and the thought got in to my head as to where we might draw the line in terms of definition.

Was a random thought and maybe even might have fit in that thread but there's only so many threads that can be infected with this sort of thing before the whole board has gone to shit

[Bürggermeister]

If you translate your surname and it starts with an O' or Mc... yeah

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

Funny thing is, the previous population our modern Irish DNA most closely resembles genetically arrived here after Newgrange was built. 600 years after (still a very long time ago, obvs). Any DNA samples they've extracted from earlier human remains aren't close to ours at all. So we can identify ourselves with a population that arrived something like 4,500 years ago, which is pretty impressive, all things considered. But we do know that they were a migrant population with respect to the culture who built Newgrange. So which one is "ethnic"? Course, the people bringing up this shite probably think white people in the US are ethnic, so I wouldn't bother if I were you   

[Grim Reality]

It's a good one, astfgyl. Sure there's no real 'right' answer and no cut off point for ethnicity. I'd just go on gut feeling probably! It's a funny one but you see the liberal left get all in to this stuff these days. Like The Jews aren't really The Jews from Israel, they are European by DNA. SF/IRA heads are false cos they've a bit of Norman in them so stfu with their nationalism malarkey. Nobody in Ireland is ethnically Irish and we are all migrants in the context of Newgrange 
Lads are tying themselves up in knots over this stuff 

I'd say you'd want 4 or 5 generations of traditional oul white Catholic Irish on at least one side of your family to be considered ethnically Irish but sure I've only pulled that out of my arse and wtf do I know?

I have a Norman name on my mother's side and English on that side also not that far back. The other side is the usual peasant Irish. I'm definitely Irish ethnically. For example Chio Ogbene or Adam Idah aren't. That's obvious. But it doesn't stop them being Irish in a broader sense.

Anyway 

[Ollkiller]

First homo sapiens came here approx 30 thousand years ago. Is that the answer.

[Mooncat]

I'm sure even most Ulster-Scots hardcore Unionists could find a branch of their family tree that goes back Irish hundreds of years so it's pretty much a moot point at this stage 

[astfgyl]

Ah yeah there's probably no answer really but a lot of people seem to sort of know the answer as well. Anyway it was just one of those random thoughts rather than me making any sort of point about it

[ldj]

It's kind of mad seeing the amount of 'free speech purists' or whatever celebrating people getting fired for taking the piss of a dead YouTuber.

Even people I know in real life, like the US government has basically told people to go after anyone mocking him, but you'd expect that, but people in Ireland or elsewhere who didn't even know who he was this time last week, who have spent the last decade moaning about 'wokeness' or whatever, supporting people getting sacked and don't see the hypocrisy, boggles the mind.

I've a mate who has spent the last week lamenting it as an 'attack on free speech' now posting Gript videos supporting punishment for people mocking him, fucking hell.

[Kunt 4 Life]

For the last couple of months he had appearing constantly on my twitter and Facebook feed but it always picked small clips with the absolute lunatic student brigade but occasionally there were clips of him and the question asker being very civil with each other.

Obviously didn't deserve to be shot. I mean, if people think he did, then we should be allowed to shoot peadophiles and have the death penalty without anyone moaning.

[Ollkiller]

It's kind of mad seeing the amount of 'free speech purists' or whatever celebrating people getting fired for taking the piss of a dead YouTuber.

Even people I know in real life, like the US government has basically told people to go after anyone mocking him, but you'd expect that, but people in Ireland or elsewhere who didn't even know who he was this time last week, who have spent the last decade moaning about 'wokeness' or whatever, supporting people getting sacked and don't see the hypocrisy, boggles the mind.

I've a mate who has spent the last week lamenting it as an 'attack on free speech' now posting Gript videos supporting punishment for people mocking him, fucking hell.

They're hypocrites. They need some sort of enemy to blame for their own failings. Sad really.

[Emphyrio]

Calling for people to be "cancelled" is retarded.

Celebrating someone getting cancelled is retarded.