The PC and Perpetually Offended Brigade

[astfgyl]

I saw one of those protests outside the library in cork and there was defo more than 3 of them. Fucking scum harassing people working in a library as a book contained something they didn't like. Same crowd is at every "immigration" protest.

Yes, because they are on the dole and have time for that shit.

As for the library books, how would we all feel if the Juno Dawson book had been as graphically instructional but aimed at straight kids instead? Telling your daughters how to suck young lads pipe?

Hmm I think there'd be less support for that somehow. Being in the rainbow crew does not make being a sick cunt OK, as much as being in the rainbow crew does not make one a sick cunt by default.

I don't give the first flying fuck about library books. I'll leave that to librarians or whoever decides that shyte. Oh there's something in a book that might be bad for children. Lord above. They have smartphones. Which are far worse imo.

Smartphones have parental controls for minors. And you know full well that a book telling underage girls how to suck dick would be nonce behaviour and it only has support because it's rainbow themed.

[astfgyl]

Here, have some stats:

On asylum seekers:

In 2022 the top three countries of asylum seekers origin were Georgia, Algeria and Somalia, accounting for 45% of all applicants. (Source is BBC using official Irish figures).

OK, Georgia first...

At war? NO. Population 3.7 mil. Average wage about 400 euro per month. (Irish welfare at least double that).

Next up, Algeria:

At war? NO. Population 44.9 million. Average wage about 400 euro per month (Irish welfare at least double that).

And now Somalia:

At war? YES. Civil War since 2009. Population 17.6 million. Average wage about 50 euro per month (Irish welfare at least 16 times that).

So for the top three countries applying for asylum here, we have a population pool of 66.2 million who will all dramatically benefit in economic terms from coming here and simply claiming the dole and all the free shit that comes with that.

So, can any of the left types on here tell me do they honestly think we should put no cap on this and that ireland won't get full if we stay going as we are? That's just fuckin silly talk is what it is. Silly talk from state-media- brainwashed fools.

Now let's do work permits!

Top 3 countries for work permits: India, Brazil and the Philippines.

Tbh it doesn't matter a fuck what their population or average salary is because they aren't getting the dole on a work permit and they have to apply in advance of coming here rather than simply turning up with the hands swinging, looking for benefits. This will also be self limiting by the number of actual jobs on offer for the lads to apply for, so no job, no permit, problem solved.

These are the immigrants that everyone is sticking up for, and people would want to use their fucking brains for a change and get this mythical Far Right bollix out of their rte-watching heads and see what the difference between immigration and having the piss taken out of you by a load of freeloading cunts with nothing to offer to the place other than a drain on resources and public monies. We have plenty of wasters of our own and don't need to import them at all and even more so could do without importing them and not having a clue about anything about them because the little fucking chancers have no documents and know all the loopholes before they get near the place.

This new EU migration pact looks set to exacerbate the asylum problem and as such should not be rushed through without public debate in the Dáil but this is what the cunts in government are trying to do is ram the shit through without proper scrutiny and they can go fuck themselves with that.

So tell me lads, can ireland genuinely not be full in your opinions because in mine it's long past full of asylum seeking chancers and can't get full of work permit immigrants. Am I the Far Right now? Get a fucking life.

Now I'll have to come back in a bit with more because I've to tip out next door and give the Filipino lad a lend of an extension lead so he can power wash his car on his day off before he heads back to work tomorrow do he can earn a few bob and pay his mortgage and pay his taxes like anyone else. Don't fuckin tell me there's no difference between that and the ipas bullshit going on here because if one can't separate the two, then one is simply a thick cunt.

Actually, one last thing here:

I know a lot of you on the board are living in foreign countries as immigrants. Can I have a show of hands for how many of you emigrants are on the dole in the countries you live in?

Exactly.

Ireland isn't full in general but it's long past full of bogus asylum seekers coming to seek a better life on the dole at our expense and we could also do with a good and proper purge of the folks who are making money from our broken system, maybe send them out to the third world to do humanitarian work song as they like to help so much. Banty McEnany and his family would go down a treat in Somalia.

So am I racist now for pointing out the obvious stupidity of our current system?

Back to this one before it gets lost

[Ollkiller]

I saw one of those protests outside the library in cork and there was defo more than 3 of them. Fucking scum harassing people working in a library as a book contained something they didn't like. Same crowd is at every "immigration" protest.

Yes, because they are on the dole and have time for that shit.

As for the library books, how would we all feel if the Juno Dawson book had been as graphically instructional but aimed at straight kids instead? Telling your daughters how to suck young lads pipe?

Hmm I think there'd be less support for that somehow. Being in the rainbow crew does not make being a sick cunt OK, as much as being in the rainbow crew does not make one a sick cunt by default.

I don't give the first flying fuck about library books. I'll leave that to librarians or whoever decides that shyte. Oh there's something in a book that might be bad for children. Lord above. They have smartphones. Which are far worse imo.

Smartphones have parental controls for minors. And you know full well that a book telling underage girls how to suck dick would be nonce behaviour and it only has support because it's rainbow themed.

Lol. Like kids can't get around parental controls. Now it'd work for young kids but once they get to 14 or whatever they're seeing farvworse stuff on the net than any book.

As for the rest I don't go around thinking about what's in books. I literally don't give a flying shyte.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

This is true:

The highest number of applications [in 2022] were from Georgian nationals, followed by applicants from Algeria and Somalia.

But omits the primary stat:

13,651 people applied for asylum in Ireland in 2022.

https://www.unhcr.org/sites/default/files/legacy-pdf/640747d47.pdf

What I guess you don't have stats for is how many asylum seekers who are on the dole actually want to be working. And if you don't have that, then you're running with a trope about them coming here for benefits rather than being here and on benefits. We had this shite with the murderer, people saying he'd come here for benefits and then it turned out he'd actually worked here for at least a few years upon arrival.

[astfgyl]

I saw one of those protests outside the library in cork and there was defo more than 3 of them. Fucking scum harassing people working in a library as a book contained something they didn't like. Same crowd is at every "immigration" protest.

Yes, because they are on the dole and have time for that shit.

As for the library books, how would we all feel if the Juno Dawson book had been as graphically instructional but aimed at straight kids instead? Telling your daughters how to suck young lads pipe?

Hmm I think there'd be less support for that somehow. Being in the rainbow crew does not make being a sick cunt OK, as much as being in the rainbow crew does not make one a sick cunt by default.

I don't give the first flying fuck about library books. I'll leave that to librarians or whoever decides that shyte. Oh there's something in a book that might be bad for children. Lord above. They have smartphones. Which are far worse imo.

Smartphones have parental controls for minors. And you know full well that a book telling underage girls how to suck dick would be nonce behaviour and it only has support because it's rainbow themed.

Lol. Like kids can't get around parental controls. Now it'd work for young kids but once they get to 14 or whatever they're seeing farvworse stuff on the net than any book.

As for the rest I don't go around thinking about what's in books. I literally don't give a flying shyte.

Does the stuff they are seeing on the Internet contain minors fucking? I doubt it.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

The unit is currently experiencing very high volumes of applications for Labour Market Access permission. As a consequence there is currently a delay in processing applications. To avoid further day, please ensure your address is up to date with the international protection office as this is where the permit will be posted.

Processing time is approximately 150 days.

https://www.irishimmigration.ie/my-situation-has-changed-since-i-arrived-in-ireland/labour-market-access-permission/

High volumes? Surely not if so many of them are here just to be on the scratcher. 5 month processing time? Sounds like there's a fair bit of scratching going on somewhere anyway.

More than 12,000 international protection applicants – people who have sought asylum in the State under the International Protection Act 2015 – received labour market access between mid-2018, when it was first possible to obtain it, and the end of 2022.

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/2023/03/24/many-asylum-seekers-taking-up-right-to-work-but-barriers-remain-esri-finds/

Seeing lots of signs of asylum seekers looking for work. What you got for them actively not looking for work, upon which one of your argument depends?

[Ollkiller]

I saw one of those protests outside the library in cork and there was defo more than 3 of them. Fucking scum harassing people working in a library as a book contained something they didn't like. Same crowd is at every "immigration" protest.

Yes, because they are on the dole and have time for that shit.

As for the library books, how would we all feel if the Juno Dawson book had been as graphically instructional but aimed at straight kids instead? Telling your daughters how to suck young lads pipe?

Hmm I think there'd be less support for that somehow. Being in the rainbow crew does not make being a sick cunt OK, as much as being in the rainbow crew does not make one a sick cunt by default.

I don't give the first flying fuck about library books. I'll leave that to librarians or whoever decides that shyte. Oh there's something in a book that might be bad for children. Lord above. They have smartphones. Which are far worse imo.

Smartphones have parental controls for minors. And you know full well that a book telling underage girls how to suck dick would be nonce behaviour and it only has support because it's rainbow themed.

Lol. Like kids can't get around parental controls. Now it'd work for young kids but once they get to 14 or whatever they're seeing farvworse stuff on the net than any book.

As for the rest I don't go around thinking about what's in books. I literally don't give a flying shyte.

Does the stuff they are seeing on the Internet contain minors fucking? I doubt it.

Right. Don't know why I'm doing this but enlighten me. What books are you on about. Currently in Irish libraries.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

And bear in mind that many of us started reading the likes of Burroughs in our early to mid teens 

[Ollkiller]

And bear in mind that many of us started reading the likes of Burroughs in our early to mid teens 

True. And I saw far worse banned VHS videos when I was 13 or 14.

[astfgyl]

So do you think there should be no attempt to cap the numbers applying for international protection here and that we should simply stay going as we are, or would you recommend fixing anything about it?

"A myriad of global issues has increased applications for asylum in Ireland, 13,000 in 2023, nearly five times what it was in 2019. Ireland is currently accommodating more than 101,585 people between those fleeing Ukraine and International Protection (IP) applicants"

That's another quote from the BBC. So 12000 of them looked for work in the last 5 years? I think there are some left over after that....

I'm in a line of work where I give most of my day dealing with immigrants and looking at their income details. I like a lot of them, even some of the chancers, but that doesn't mean the system is not an absolute joke. I have to look at their social welfare statements of income so I know exactly what they're getting and how it's playing out here, even if you wish to be wilfully blind to it. And yes we do have doctors and engineers coming too and I was chatting with a radiologist from Congo the other day (paying savage tax the poor fucker) but they are the minority of what we have by a very long shot.

As for the books, the one causing the trouble was This Book Is Gay and the issue was that it was available for 12 year old kids. It could have been solved by moving it up to 16. And your arguments to the contrary, about burroughs and the few blue movies (without kids in them, I'd hope!!) are like me saying because I started smoking at 9 that I shouldn't mind my 9 year old taking it up.

Oh, I also haven't read the book or protested outside libraries about it, but there was an easy solution that involved banning nothing which was simply move it up a bit in the age section but because it's rainbow no quarter could be given. Do you lads honestly think it would be no different if the book was for straight kids with the same instructional nature? Pull the other one lads

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

Reading about sex doesn't cause cancer. Up your level, please.

[astfgyl]

Well I've been smoking for 32 years and I don't have cancer. You're asking me to up my level but you haven't indicated whether you'd agree that a book detailing how to suck cock for young girls would be acceptable in the 12 year old section and are using distraction to avoid answering that. Telling 12 year old girls how to do it is nonce carry on, but somehow when it's rainbow that's to be defended? Come off it

In fact, the whole book issue was a mere aside regarding the type of character who frequents the protests when the original point was about international protection applicants. I offered an easy solution for the book issue, do you not agree with my proposal which would keep everyone happy?

Also, I made a point about my own experience having to deal with immigrants day in day out and how I can see the difference between what is being sold and the reality but I guess that is to be skipped in favour of the aside about books and protesters who have no job to distract them from threatening librarians.

Actually, those cunts should be put to work as well, the Irish lads who make a career out of being on the dole

[mickO)))]

You are more than welcome to dispute any of the claims she made in the video. What part of it do you not agree with and why?

It is a very Brexit style argument to me blaming the EU for migration. Next thing I will here we need to leave to EU to take control of our boarders.
I haven't the slightest inclination to join the UK and become another Brexitland certainly not to appease some right wingers who hate immigrants.

Do you remember Nigal Farage's poster a couple of days before the referendum in Th UK ?
It happened just before the MP Joe Cox was stabbed to to death on the street by a man shouting "Britan First"
Farage said to the media afterwards the he asked himself if he could live with that and answered that he could !

Anyway I don't like that sort of politics which I'd consider pretty much useless and you politics is an old game you know.

The entire video is about a pact that at the time we were not part of nor where we being forced to be part of it but the Government without consulting with the citizens of this country as of Friday have now opted us into.

This is going to completely change country and not for the better. Most people aren't even aware of how serious it is because RTE, The Government etc. have just been telling us about how great the pact is as we will now be able turn people away faster who aren't genuine a case while neglecting to mention any of the major consequences that come with it.

A major decision like this should have been put to a referendum but it wasn't because they knew it wouldn't have a hope of being passed (some democracy isn't it). Yes this will result now in a lot of people wanting to leave the EU because once we opted into this voluntarily we cannot get out of it. We didn't have to opt into it and it was never in our interest to do so but the Government didn't care and signed us up anyway.

[astfgyl]

I agree with you there, Mick. The distraction of being racist and far right for pointing out that this is being forced through without scrutiny is working on everyone though so it will pass and by the time we see the damage that has been done it will be too late.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

I don't know the book in question. I don't know what its actual recommended age group is, so I don't know whether it turned up in the wrong place by oversight or what happened. I do know that in the early 90s, 1st year was my first sex ed class. I was 12. Oral sex was covered, along with many "worse" things since we were asked to submit our own questions anonymously too. You'd be amazed the questions 12 year olds had, well before this newest wave of moral panic. I also don't know how the book broaches the subject. Better or worse than my poor 1st year Civics teacher?