Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on March 11, 2024, 11:25:00 AMYeah, surprised at the Monarchy (of all institutions!) not being more discerning in who they bestow knighthoods on  :laugh:

At least they gave it to Jimmy Saville before they knew he was a degenerate!

My boss always says you have to play the game. It's a euphemism for eat shit, smile and say thanks for the delicious ice cream. It seems pertinent to me in regards to a lot of this online madness.

Who's eating shit here though? This Foster mook publicly called for harsh disciplinary action on the basis of an allegation, i.e. against a person who was still legally speaking not guilty of anything (as far as I know there's no incriminating audio recording or anything like that). Whether he did that out of spite, to make a point about how racism isn't called out equally, or out of genuine zeal regarding racism, it was a thick thing to do. As Kimble suggested above, it was already a fairly thick thing for the bobby in question to make a deal out of the slur, especially if the evidence boiled down to his word against hers. On the other hand, it was smart of her to make the most of the same situation and deny it. Why the fuck wouldn't she? Especially if she really was that drunk, she might not remember. Would any of ye let a cop fill in your memory for you?? "Oh grand, I said that did I, okay, well you're probably right. I sign the statement here do I?"

This isn't so much about eating shit as it seems to be about flinging shit and having the wind throw it back in your face.

Quote from: Caomhaoin on March 11, 2024, 12:03:30 PM
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on March 11, 2024, 11:25:00 AMYeah, surprised at the Monarchy (of all institutions!) not being more discerning in who they bestow knighthoods on  :laugh:

At least they gave it to Jimmy Saville before they knew he was a degenerate!

Oh they knew lad, they knew.

#5779 March 11, 2024, 06:35:03 PM Last Edit: March 11, 2024, 06:39:57 PM by Eoin McLove
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on March 11, 2024, 12:17:54 PMWho's eating shit here though? This Foster mook publicly called for harsh disciplinary action on the basis of an allegation, i.e. against a person who was still legally speaking not guilty of anything (as far as I know there's no incriminating audio recording or anything like that). Whether he did that out of spite, to make a point about how racism isn't called out equally, or out of genuine zeal regarding racism, it was a thick thing to do. As Kimble suggested above, it was already a fairly thick thing for the bobby in question to make a deal out of the slur, especially if the evidence boiled down to his word against hers. On the other hand, it was smart of her to make the most of the same situation and deny it. Why the fuck wouldn't she? Especially if she really was that drunk, she might not remember. Would any of ye let a cop fill in your memory for you?? "Oh grand, I said that did I, okay, well you're probably right. I sign the statement here do I?"


This isn't so much about eating shit as it seems to be about flinging shit and having the wind throw it back in your face.

I was making a general observation about the state of affairs on social media with everyone having to watch what they say in case the Stasi come for them.

There's a fakeness at the heart of a lot of this. Fake outrage from people who don't want to be sacrificed on the altar. Fake apologies from  people who say the wrong thing and have their jobs or reputations on the line or just don't want to deal with the ire of the mob. Everyone is smiling with shite in their teeth pretending that everything is fine.

Quote from: Eoin McLove on March 11, 2024, 06:35:03 PMEveryone is smiling with shite in their teeth pretending that everything is fine.

 :laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh:

That rather sums it up!

There has been a lot of rumblings in the media about the end of woke from the government. I would say it's highly unlikely from just one referendum. A drubbing over the next referendum or in the local elections could see them change tack.

Newstalk

Quote from: hellfire on March 12, 2024, 07:18:47 PMThere has been a lot of rumblings in the media about the end of woke from the government. I would say it's highly unlikely from just one referendum. A drubbing over the next referendum or in the local elections could see them change tack.

Newstalk

All the people I work with are the most normal rte people possible who don't do the likes of twitter and the word around the campfire is that the local elections are going to be a whitewash because anything that might bring more immigrants is going to be voted out. Now that's not my words even though I did predict that a while back but I suspect the referendum results had something to do with that sentiment and Neil Richmond making comments around that on the telly.

Whether that's for right or wrong has been done to death but that's where we find ourselves in the sticks anyway if not the cities.

They need one or two more drubbings before it will sink in. Have a few chances over the next few months. They will regroup for now and think it was a fluke or a mishandled campaign. The campaign was badly mishandled in fairness.

It was terribly mishandled when they conceived of that ridiculous wording, never mind the campaign.

I'm of the Ochoill persuasion that if it doesn't harm me but might benefit someone else then I'm up for it but this gave me the no feeling from the off once I read the words. Nothing to do with the screaming about foreigners or the supposed removing of women.

No none of that, I just felt in my gut that the lads were trying to do something far worse than the things it was actually won and lost on and that worries me a lot, that if they come back with a different campaign to do the same thing that it'll actually work if the messaging is right. That's the point missed entirely right there. Even doing it to kick them is missing the point because had they tried to do the right thing they wouldn't have needed kicking.

Examine the wording and think of the implications of removing the By Economic Necessity words instead of the woman part.

I think that was the stroke and everyone missed it, including me until the day of voting.

We fluked this one was all

If this lot put a referendum up for a tax exemption that only applied to me I'd have voted no. I think there's only one more referendum in the life of this government and I'll vote no to it. I'll even be turning out to the local elections to vote against them. I've never turned up to a local election before in my life.

Now tbf I will turn up for the local elections myself this time, which I haven't done in around 20 years and what's more is I'm going to vote for whoever are the greatest absolute clowns that are on the ballot as a protest against every party politician in the country, so I do get the kicking element as well but people needed to be smarter on this latest one as well and at the end of the day, populism won over reason when reason should have won it beyond any of the campaigning from either side.

I'm doing the same in the European elections. The craziest fool on the ballot has my full support. They do fuck all over there anyway.

Quote from: hellfire on March 12, 2024, 09:22:56 PMIf this lot put a referendum up for a tax exemption that only applied to me I'd have voted no. I think there's only one more referendum in the life of this government and I'll vote no to it. I'll even be turning out to the local elections to vote against them. I've never turned up to a local election before in my life.

Turns out there's another ref in June  :laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh:

Based on this ->
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_Patent_Court

Basically want to transfer patent decision making in this matter to an EU wide court system.

I forgot about the euro elections! Whatever is the equivalent of the mad raving loony party is getting my vote in that too.

Those lads were just ahead of their time was all