Quote from: Pagan Saviour on August 27, 2023, 04:48:20 PMDangerous is the word. Look at Grahame Linehan, cancelled and ruined. I know Grahame has his issues but his sentiments were largely reasonable I thought. It's gas, he's accused of promoting hatred yet you'd want to see the comments from the woke brigade on his site "glad your wife and children left you" etc. Despicable. 

Clearly you have no idea how mild that is compared to the bile he's come out with. He is another Gemma, quite simply. And also is not at all directly involved with the issues. Just a busybody. A very bitter, now mentally disturbed busybody

Quote from: Pagan Saviour on August 27, 2023, 04:16:59 PMAnyone following the Alice Cooper fiasco?

The faux outrage and hysteria on his social media channels really are something. In all honesty were his comments that hurtful or damaging?

Yeah I caught that but it seems to have died down again (he does have a new album out Friday past).

I think he was spot on. Its become a fad but when kids get involved when They're so young it's bad craic.

I remember seeing this clip of an English couple (who wore Kiss and Metallica Tshirts, I think Download editions) who had 2 boys and a Third child who was a girl and about 3 years old. They were raising the girl as a boy, cutting the hair short, giving her a boy's name and treating her as such. They believed she was trans as she was into 'boy stuff '. The fact that she had 2 older brothers who she wanted to play with and do what they do never seemed to occur to these fuckwit parents.

My sister was a teacher in South America for a bit and there was one pupil who thought she was trans and wanted to use male pronouns and be a boy. A year or two later she settled on being a lesbian. Lucky she didn't get the tits cut off.

Graham Lineman is completely off the deep end, mind gone, in pursuit of whatever the fuck he's at basically unprompted at every opportunity.

If you're using him as a measure for someone unfairly cancelled I'd say ask yourself some questions.

Bit fucking rich of Alice Cooper, et al, the epitome of gender-bending rockstars, to be taking such stances also imo. I do find it weird how so many otherwise ultimately libertarian folk decide to double down on this shite when it comes to whatever people are doing with their own bodies. Whatever.

Keep spouting lads. The reign of transgender lunacy has about a year to eighteen months left in it. Hopefully a reasonable and sensible accommodation in society can be made once the madness is over.

#5479 August 27, 2023, 10:01:30 PM Last Edit: August 27, 2023, 10:09:34 PM by Black Shepherd Carnage
I don't mind, and am pretty resonant with, genuine concerns over fixist attitudes to gender, including gender affirming surgery, etc., in infants/minors. But I also know how to separate out issues, which most folk seem incapable of. Like, if your genuine concern is the well-being of kids then don't mix in scare BS about rapes in toilets: those two issues are logically unrelated. I mention this as Linehan is obsessed with the latter (evidently since it gives him the excuse that he's concerned about women, although no one fucking asked him to speak for them) and also cos I see Alice Cooper also blended the two together.

I think kids should be given space to express themselves, always have. Let a girl dress and play like a boy or vice versa. But you know who historically has not been okay with that? Has not allowed that kind of natural behavior to be expressed? That's right, those who are now saying it's normal and shouldn't be taken for gender dysphoria. I agree, but fuck them all for the landscape they helped create. So, very similar to my views on the pro-life movement: too little too late too disingenuous.

When this fad passes and it is starting to, the same governments who authorised gender affirming care and irreversible treatments for minors are going to have a terrible case to answer. The people who foisted these views on children on the remote chance that one of them might be trans will have a lifetime to think about their reprehensible behaviour. The fallout in terms of damaged and castrated individuals suffering will outlive me. Everyone propagating this nonsense knows in the back of their mind what they are doing is wrong.

All anyone has to do to kill that argument is ban transitioning for under 18s. Its that simple.  After that if they want to do it well then they're considered an adult so whatever like. They'll have to live with it.


Quote from: stearl on August 28, 2023, 01:53:07 PMhttps://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/09ebb340-451e-11ee-be2e-24f758bd7727?shareToken=eb26bed927e79543c20703c386364e19

Somewhat more music related than the last couple of posts.


I wonder will we ever reach peak stupidity? It has seemed for a while that we might but the more it goes on I'm thinking that there is no peak to it.

Imagine say, banning aran jumpers for non Irish and that's how fucking stupid that one is

I'd say we're already there with the 'maths is racist' shtick to be honest.

Deleted my Twitter account yesterday solely after seeing Musk courting that Gript media shower and then asking about when our elections are.  Cue a few posts of "what manner of interference is he planning" and a shit ton of blue tick lads saying sure wouldn't it be grand to get him involved, wouldn't his money go a long way to a few parties here and suddenly the absolute density of it hit me.  Richest man in the world having a new pet interest or little toy with irish politics based entirely off what Scallan has told him.

A site packed to the rafters with paying contrarians and disinfo artists peddling their fuckin wares for outrage clicks, the entire site is a gish gallop being blasted into my mind 24/7 and it is rotten.  Bot fucking central too.  I don't want to read this shit anymore. Whether it happens or not I couldn't be fucked with any of his shit any more so the only way out is off of it.

Anyway I'm just giving out, 15 years on there and plenty of friends on there I will miss interacting with, it is just very severely not for me anymore.

Quote from: Carnage on August 28, 2023, 05:00:05 PMI'd say we're already there with the 'maths is racist' shtick to be honest.

Ah jaysus I forgot about that one  :laugh:

Quote from: ochoill on August 28, 2023, 05:05:03 PMDeleted my Twitter account yesterday solely after seeing Musk courting that Gript media shower and then asking about when our elections are.  Cue a few posts of "what manner of interference is he planning" and a shit ton of blue tick lads saying sure wouldn't it be grand to get him involved, wouldn't his money go a long way to a few parties here and suddenly the absolute density of it hit me.  Richest man in the world having a new pet interest or little toy with irish politics based entirely off what Scallan has told him.

A site packed to the rafters with paying contrarians and disinfo artists peddling their fuckin wares for outrage clicks, the entire site is a gish gallop being blasted into my mind 24/7 and it is rotten.  Bot fucking central too.  I don't want to read this shit anymore. Whether it happens or not I couldn't be fucked with any of his shit any more so the only way out is off of it.

Anyway I'm just giving out, 15 years on there and plenty of friends on there I will miss interacting with, it is just very severely not for me anymore.

 :'(

That's one less real person I have on there now.

Soon it'll be just me and all those new account women that keep following me but never post anything

Quote from: astfgyl on August 28, 2023, 04:40:12 PM
Quote from: stearl on August 28, 2023, 01:53:07 PMhttps://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/09ebb340-451e-11ee-be2e-24f758bd7727?shareToken=eb26bed927e79543c20703c386364e19
Somewhat more music related than the last couple of posts.

I wonder will we ever reach peak stupidity? It has seemed for a while that we might but the more it goes on I'm thinking that there is no peak to it.
Imagine say, banning aran jumpers for non Irish and that's how fucking stupid that one is

Metalfests would be totally ballixed... Sure all the studs and leather was appropriated from the gay community  :laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh:

Quote from: astfgyl on August 28, 2023, 05:14:15 PM:'(

That's one less real person I have on there now.

Soon it'll be just me and all those new account women that keep following me but never post anything
:laugh: your own little only fans harem.

At least I can pick up the phone and argue the toss with you so it's grand lol