Yeah it's paedos. Looking for acceptance into the community. I actually don't think the chap was taking the piss because he locked his account once he started getting popular instead of saying he was on the wind up. A tough sell but I can see the sort of logic that gets people to that point.

Some hellhole Twitter but I'm learning how to make it good so I can look at pictures of space and science shit

Quote from: astfgyl on April 21, 2022, 09:04:19 PM


Some hellhole Twitter but I'm learning how to make it good so I can look at pictures of space and science shit

If you can set it up, Twitter can be great. Ive just recently got my shit sorted and stick to what I like. I am tempted to set up a second fake account and just troll the trans debates.

#4187 April 22, 2022, 10:13:30 AM Last Edit: April 22, 2022, 10:19:37 AM by ochoill
Quote from: astfgyl on April 21, 2022, 09:04:19 PM
Yeah it's paedos. Looking for acceptance into the community. I actually don't think the chap was taking the piss because he locked his account once he started getting popular instead of saying he was on the wind up. A tough sell but I can see the sort of logic that gets people to that point.

Some hellhole Twitter but I'm learning how to make it good so I can look at pictures of space and science shit
It's a fake outrage thing that stems from 4chan over a decade ago.  Don't fall for it.

Just editing to add that I was a very regular user on that site for years (mostly /v/ and /mu/) and at the time saw heaps of posts about how to astroturf any LGBT discussion with this shit.  Infographic guidelines and lads spending months setting up tumblr pages that looked and behaved very legit but were just there to troll others.  Thanks to Poe's law and the usefulness of this debate to others, it lives on.

This is I think the third time the MAPs thing has circled around on this forum itself.

Minor Attracted Person. It's like a mid nineties Simpsons skit.


Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on April 22, 2022, 10:22:20 AM
This is I think the third time the MAPs thing has circled around on this forum itself.

I definitely mentioned it before when there was that Australian story about not upsetting them by calling them paedos. As I said, it seems to me like the logical progression that once all other niches get their acceptance that the more underground stuff will want theirs.

Is it a line that'll never be crossed? I don't know anymore because there's different attitudes to things across time and place. Like it'd be rare now for someone to marry a 13 year old but that didn't stop it being the done thing once upon a time.

And do they have a fair point, that the rest of the world shouldn't ostracise someone for having different sexual preferences to the norm? People used to be just as horrified by the thoughts of two men going at it but now no-one gives a fuck. So whether it's a wind up originating from 4chan or whether this time someone really means it doesn't  matter because the question exists now. I have my own opinion of it but that won't prevent someone else from using a totally different logic on it. And to go back to the Australian thing at the time, is it ok to admit to being map if one doesn't act on it, like would you hang around with someone who was sexually attracted to kids if they definitely weren't going to do anything about it?

I dunno it seems like the ultimate minefield however minor (!) it might be in the grand scheme of things and when we have a thread for PC and offended it's surely the place for it. Like here's me being anti PC and giving out about the offended but there's something to offend me and probably everyone else even if no-one is actually physically hurting anyone.

Or we can just use the thread to give out about either side of US politics as we have been doing.

It's a line that was systematically crossed up until really not that long ago at all. Hooking it now onto the LGBT crowd is 99.9% tabloid sensationalism, 0.01% genuine problem. For the sake of your own mental health, and that of anyone you would otherwise mention it to, forget all about it.

#4192 April 24, 2022, 07:07:47 PM Last Edit: April 24, 2022, 07:24:51 PM by astfgyl
Of course hooking it to LGBT is ridiculous. I'm not equating the two at all like I don't think there's any connection other than that someone could use the same logic around acceptance for others who can't help being who they are. Like the tweet in question asked of acceptance into the queer community, that wasn't my words and tbf I imagine the queer community aren't going to want these lads either but that's how they came into it this time at least. It could be a wider discussion but here's something that appears to be abhorrent to everyone and yet the argument of acceptance if it doesn't hurt anyone could be applied (as in they've admitted it but don't act on it) but now I'm the one offended by the notion so do I need to rethink my own ideas around acceptance or simply accept that I'll never be able to accept something like that and at the same time if I visit some place where marrying say 14 year olds is their thing, and I accept the cultural difference does that mean I'm okay with kiddie fiddlers when it suits me?

I just like to think about the different angles of things where it concerns my own reaction to it. It's a real minefield but I'm only shooting the breeze around the awkward questions. I still have my gut reaction to work off when the complex logical arguments around morality fail to guide me! :laugh:

Edit: on second thoughts, let's not go to Camelot. Tis a silly place

This thing regarding paedos is a tricky one. I am totally against it, but maybe I'm just a product of the Western world.
It is a totally normal thing on the Middle East for example, the same as having sexual relationships with sheep or marrying and having children between cousins.

Quote from: warhead on April 25, 2022, 09:14:34 PM

It is a totally normal thing on the Middle East for example, the same as having sexual relationships with sheep or marrying and having children between cousins.

Arkansas is in the Middle East?

Well, it is in the eastern half if you split the USA down the middle, maybe that's what warhead meant.

Quote from: warhead on April 25, 2022, 09:14:34 PM
This thing regarding paedos is a tricky one. I am totally against it, but maybe I'm just a product of the Western world.
It is a totally normal thing on the Middle East for example, the same as having sexual relationships with sheep or marrying and having children between cousins.

Hmmmm, Baljas are baljas, right? ;)

Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on April 25, 2022, 10:40:09 PM
Well, it is in the eastern half if you split the USA down the middle, maybe that's what warhead meant.
Quote from: Mower Liberation Front on April 25, 2022, 09:43:56 PM
Quote from: warhead on April 25, 2022, 09:14:34 PM

It is a totally normal thing on the Middle East for example, the same as having sexual relationships with sheep or marrying and having children between cousins.

Arkansas is in the Middle East?

I didn't mean to say I think Arkansas is in the Middle East. English is not my native tongue so I apologize if I made it look that way(to be honest though, I've got it confirmed that most of Irish people are quite deficit when it comes to speaking/writing English too).
I wanted to say that most of the Western hemisphere are having different traditions than most of the people living in the Eastern hemisphere. Western hemisphere being countries like Croatia, Ireland or USA, Eastern hemisphere being a country like Afghanistan for example.
Most of people in the Western hemisphere consider fucking 12 year olds or having children with your cousin to be a no no, while most of the people in the Eastern hemisphere considers it to be a perfectly normal thing
So..what I wanted to say in an ironical way is the following.....who has the right to say that what the majority of people living in Arkansas considers as normal is the right way? Maybe the MAP's living in Arkansas are actually behaving the normal way if you would look at how people in for example Afghanistan behave.
Maybe the way the west sees things is wrong, and what the eastern sees is right.
I hope I've made myself a little bit more clear now, if not, well, feck it......

Quote from: Caomhaoin on April 26, 2022, 01:36:24 AM
Quote from: warhead on April 25, 2022, 09:14:34 PM
This thing regarding paedos is a tricky one. I am totally against it, but maybe I'm just a product of the Western world.
It is a totally normal thing on the Middle East for example, the same as having sexual relationships with sheep or marrying and having children between cousins.
Quote from: Caomhaoin on April 26, 2022, 01:36:24 AM
Quote from: warhead on April 25, 2022, 09:14:34 PM
This thing regarding paedos is a tricky one. I am totally against it, but maybe I'm just a product of the Western world.
It is a totally normal thing on the Middle East for example, the same as having sexual relationships with sheep or marrying and having children between cousins.

Hmmmm, Baljas are baljas, right? ;)
Hmmmm, Baljas are baljas, right? ;)

Well, not all of them are the same, off course :-)

Your English is fine. Your humour and knowledge of the real world both need some serious work though.