Quote from: 91/30 on March 31, 2022, 08:30:23 AM
Quote from: Kurt Cocaine on March 31, 2022, 06:44:29 AM
World "Health" Organisation want to give women more "freedom" so they can casually murder their babies. The blood of millions of children are crying out to Heaven for vengeance.

"The reason why we have such a massive slaughter of the innocents is because we have become a fornicating society, and adulterous society, a masturbating society, a homosexual society and a contraceptive society. Unchaste people are selfish people. They will not stop at murder if an unborn child would be a burden to their indulgence and sexual pleasure." - Fr. John A. Hardon, S.J



'other pregnant persons' = the mentally ill

Father Hard On

:laugh:
He's got a hard-on for sins of the flesh!

Quote from: Eoin McLove on March 31, 2022, 08:18:21 AM
Can we change the title of this thread to "The Un-PC and Perpetually Offended Brigade"?

Really did swing didn't it.


Yeah, I doubt Father Hardon and his ilk have much good to say about prostitutes. Always an easy measure for determining just how far a "christian" is from being christ-like.

He'd be of the 'why pay for it when you can get it for free' brigade shure...


Between Sonia O'Sullivan's recent column and this, https://www.the42.ie/emily-bridges-cycling-5726041-Mar2022/ this topic is occurring more frequently this side of the pond. Not too long ago it'd have been ludicrous to think such situations could arise. Yet, here we are.

Quote from: Emphyrio on March 31, 2022, 06:00:53 PM
Between Sonia O'Sullivan's recent column and this, https://www.the42.ie/emily-bridges-cycling-5726041-Mar2022/ this topic is occurring more frequently this side of the pond. Not too long ago it'd have been ludicrous to think such situations could arise. Yet, here we are.

I'd missed that article, thanks for pointing it out. Here's the link for anyone interested:

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/other-sports/sonia-o-sullivan-transgender-athletes-cannot-be-allowed-to-compete-in-women-s-sport-1.4834586

I have massive respect for O'Sullivan. She's clearly one of the greatest athletes to ever come from Ireland. The discourse around this topic is absolutely fraught with bad faith arguments and trolling. I need to read more about it before making a call, frankly. I agree with her that it is an issue that needs to be addressed promptly.

I wonder if they made a transgender category, where trans people all competed against each other leaving the male and female categories alone, would you quickly see a drop in the number of athletes claiming to be trans (male to female specifically). I wonder if a large portion of gender confused people would suddenly become unconfused. I deserve a fuckin Nobel Prize here.

There are (fairly outrageous) gender violence (name calling or public mocking count) laws here in Spain (a complaint with zero evidence is enough to get you a night in the cells). They'd be immediately trumped by American style 'yeah but I'm a woman' now.

Men have an enormous physical advantage over women which is not diluted to any great extent by hormone reduction/augmentation. It's either fairness or making sure non gender confirming athletes don't feel bad as far as I'm concerned. Combat sports should be an immediate no-no, whatever about others.


#4135 April 01, 2022, 08:14:18 AM Last Edit: April 01, 2022, 08:16:02 AM by Kurt Cocaine
To go back to that swimming event a couple of weeks ago. The female competitors should have let yer man go on the starting bell, and when he tipped off the opposite end of the pool, that should be their prompt to start their own proper 'female event'...
It would give a nice big finger to the sports authorities too and give the ladies back their own sporting integrity that they've trained years for.

Because it must be demoralising for the girls to put in all those years of time, effort and money only to be gazumped by some willy tucking piss taker.

Sport is all about fair competition. And transgender athletes in women's sport means it's not a fair playing field so it's a hard no from me. That said the level of virtuol levelled at transgender athletes is disgusting.

Quote from: Caomhaoin on April 01, 2022, 06:50:20 AM
There are (fairly outrageous) gender violence (name calling or public mocking count) laws here in Spain (a complaint with zero evidence is enough to get you a night in the cells). They'd be immediately trumped by American style 'yeah but I'm a woman' now.

How often, really, do these laws you mention every chance you get end up being full-on abused? And is the extent of the effects of that abuse only a few fellas having to spend a night in the cell they didn't actually deserve? If so, not exactly the miscarriage of justice of the century, or even the month.

It's an deeply flawed and foolish law, plain and simple. It only applies to males in heterosexual relationships. You are being contrarian for whatever reason, whereas I know exactly what it's like to be in that position before being exonerated and apologised to by a judge. So there's that. You'd be singing a very different choon if you ended up being targeted by someone who knows perfectly well how the law works and how it can be abused.

Didn't really answer my question. Almost all laws are abused. Notably, rape laws have historically been abused to the benefit of the rapist. My question was about the real extent of abuse of this particular gender violence law, which may well be flawed and foolish, though it wouldn't be the only law that is. Drug laws are also flawed and foolish and often abused by police with the consequence of individuals who are little threat to society spending years in prison. How does this law you come back to over and over and over again compare, in real terms, to that? It's a genuine question, open to evidence that it really is an actual problem and vehicle of injustice that outweighs any of its potential benefits, again referring back to drug laws, which do generally do more harm than good.