Out October 25th first track released today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_WRE3tymuw
The artwork, album title and song titles are lacklustre. The song itself opens up blandly but becomes a bit more interesting after around a minute but it's nothing very exciting. I think Mayhem are damned if they do, damned if they don't in a way. This certainly has a feel of DMDS but will only ever live in that album's shadow, like most albums that go for a similar style. Hopefully there are more exciting songs that get a little closer to the darkness of De Mysteriis... on the album.
Here we go ... disparaging comment about album cover - check
opinion formed after one minute listen - check
not as good as previous classic stuff - check
yet wish it sounded more like previous stuff - check
continue ...next poster
How do you comment on something without referring to any aspect of it?
It's just typical of this site and of Metal Ireland too in the past, it gets tedious after a while. Of course it's not going to be as good as DeMysteriis. That was a young raw band at their best, but why is there almost a race to put a boot in to any mew music from older bands? The artwork thing always annoys me. Is it really bad artwork? are any of their album sleeves any better , would you prefer another picture of a church for instance?.
I'm sorry if I come across as a prick but I enjoyed alot of your reviews in the past but this is just lazy , why bother if you don't give the thing a chance?
More than a review, this is just an objective truism:
QuoteI think Mayhem are damned if they do, damned if they don't in a way. This certainly has a feel of DMDS but will only ever live in that album's shadow, like most albums that go for a similar style.
Cool the frosted jets there Don :/
Ok they're cool now.
I've no interest in putting the boot into anyone other than Nixer and Cryptic Stench. I commented solely on what Mayhem presented. Regarding the artwork, it is dreadful to me, and captures the lack of imagination that seems to have been put into the concept quite well in that regard. Maybe you don't care about artwork or concepts. Fair enough, but I do. Every aspect of DMDS is iconic due as much to the history around the album as to the excellent music itself. Mayhem have apparently mentioned in recent interviews that they were going for a DMDS buzz on this one, and judging from that song they have, so it seems natural to me to compare the two. The song could never live up to that album for the reasons mentioned above (damned if they do) but in its own right, and compared with what is going on currently in the scene (can I keep on referring to Achatius?), it is nothing incredibly exciting. It's not bad, it just doesn't stand out particularly. I had no intention of writing a review as I'm bored of reviews in the most part so I wasn't expecting my short comment to be analysed. Whatever. It's underwhelming to me.
Cool... XXxX
Don, I have yet to like any of Mahem's music and, therefore, have no vested interest in them or any grounds for biased comparison with earlier works. Just wanted to say that, from an impartial perspective, I also thought the artwork was shite. Hope this helps.
Bring back Maniac, then I'll be interested in something they do.
Not great at all, Attilas vocals are a bit too...normal. The riffs are dull, pity Blasphemer left.
I think it's fantastic!!
It's a great track. With the vocal approach Attila's taking in places, it's almost a black metal Virus.
They lost their driving force when Blasphemer left. I get that they are damned if they do or don't. I still rate a lot of their later stuff very highly. I would hate for them to keep rehashing DMDS repeatedly as all attempts would fail.
Don't ever really give a shit about song titles or album artwork, they're nice-to-haves. Going to wait until the full record is out but I actually like their later stuff more than anything else. DMDS will always be great but I'm glad they've accepted it shouldn't be replicated and gone in a different direction with it.
Quote from: kiehozero on September 01, 2019, 03:36:49 PM
Don't ever really give a shit about song titles or album artwork, they're nice-to-haves. Going to wait until the full record is out but I actually like their later stuff more than anything else. DMDS will always be great but I'm glad they've accepted it shouldn't be replicated and gone in a different direction with it.
Agreed. For me, Ordo Ad Chao is not just one of their best albums, but one of the best albums ever made. Always in my top 3 or 4..
Disclaimer: my favorite albums change on a daily basis.
I really liked Ordo when it was released. It was out there. Strange production, weird riffs, obscure atmosphere. It hit the spot for me at the time but I haven't listened to it in ages.
It still holds up. Wall of Water, Illuminate Eliminate and Anti are just as good as anything on DMDS.
Surprised there isnt more chatter on this,the new album is excellent.
Wolfs lair ep was the last release by Mayhem that I enjoyed but the new one has certainly caught my attention,some catchy tracks on it.
Reminds me of DMDS in places.
I know this sounds fairly caveman but their obviously never going to make another DMDS so would they not just give it up ffs...
Been wrestling with this one since Sunday. Wanted to like it on the back of a good gig and it being signed.
Listened to this last night, did nothing for me. I can't stand Attila's vocals so it was always gonna be running uphill anyway, but even musically it just sounds all over the place. I'll stick with WLA & GDOW.
Quote from: Carnage on November 08, 2019, 06:25:09 PM
Listened to this last night, did nothing for me. I can't stand Attila's vocals so it was always gonna be running uphill anyway, but even musically it just sounds all over the place. I'll stick with WLA & GDOW.
You think Maniac is a better vocalist than Attlia? I think you are the first person I have ever come across with that opinion. Maniac was awful and Attila is one of the greatest vocalists of all time. DMDS would not be what it is today without Attlia.
The last three albums have been great including this one.
It has started to grow on me since. Maniac is not in the same league as Atilla. I didn't mind him as a vocalist at the time, but Atilla is a much better front man and vocalist.
I love Atila, but I'll never not laugh during Funeral Fog when he croaks "in the middle of Transylvania" like a camp villain. A lot of his operatic stuff sounds like your da coming home langers years ago, giving out about the 'ra.
New album's grand. It's a bit more kick in the teeth and less atmospheric, more Motorhead less graveyard spook, which isn't particularly what I look for in my black metal.
He sounded like a constipated Dave Mustaine on DMDS, and is no better now. The instrumental rehearsals that were released are infinitely preferable. Wolf's Lair Abyss and Grand Declaration Of War are all the Mayhem I need.
GDOW over DMDS :-X
Any day of the week. I find DMDS unlistenable, solely due to him curling one out over every track.
I found Atilla's vocals took a bit of getting used to when I first bought DMDS, and despite loving them now for their unique character, I have no trouble seeing how someone might not like them. That said, I think he is one of the most talented vocalists operating in metal. I saw him with Sunn o))) years back and he utterly stole the show. The noises coming out of him were simply phenomenal and not of this world. The ferocious power of his lungs... a mind bending performance.
He's definitely an acquired taste but just like Funeral Mist and DSO once it clicks with you, you will never go back.
If it hasn't clicked after 25 years, it's not going to.
Quote from: Carnage on November 14, 2019, 09:53:41 PM
. I find DMDS unlistenable,
Each to their own I suppose , I find GDOW to be unlistenable due mainly to Maniacs insufferable squawking on it. Dont mind his other Mayhem stuff so much but I find his voice hit or miss.
I like a lot of the music on GDOW but Maniacs vocals especially the spoke word ones sound bad. He's too camp just like Legion that use to be in Marduk. Chimera is the one Mayhem album I could never get into.
I like Chimera a lot. I really think GDOW had a few good tracks on there but he fucked them up. Interesting comparison with Legion. Apart from Opus Nocturne I can only listen to the Plagueangel to Viktoria albums.
Marduk are great the only really bad album is La Grande. Legion is a great vocalist and lyricist its just the way he acts on stage that I don't like. Check out Heaven Shall Burn its one of the albums to have ever come out of Sweden. Warschau is also one of the best live albums I have ever heard.
Warschau is incredible. I consider Mortuus to be the ultimate in Marduk vocalists. I'll respin Heaven shall burn tonight to see how time has treated it.
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The songs are great on Panzer. I just prefer when Mortuus does them.
The production on Panzer is what turns me off a little bit. Great songs but I only really ever listen to the live versions. Still waiting for Osmose to reissue the vinyl that they announced almost 6 years ago.
Mortuus is definitely the best vocalist they have had. Even though his stage presence has changed over the years. When I first saw Marduk live on the Plague Angel tour in Whelans in 05 (the same tour Warschau and the DVD were recorded on). He moved very little on the stage, didn't say anything in between songs except the name of the song any maybe a little small speech before it in reference to the title and then at the end he just slammed the microphone down and walked off the stage.
Then in 2009 they came back I saw them in Belfast and Dublin he came out swinging his hair around and was constantly trying to get the crowd to chant. For this kind of music I just prefer the way he originally was which was probably also down to him not having that much live experience at the time.
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I just sent off for the 25 year anniversary edition of DMDS. I couldn't resist. By all accounts the sound is amazing and with all the extra rehearsal, plus the book full of interview and rare recording session photos from the album session, I knew I'd regret not biting the bullet. It's left a gaping wound in the bank account this week, though, and one that will no doubt infect my dreams with anxiety and shame. One the other hand, sure look it!
I decided against it. Too many instrumental and vocal tracks. Don't doubt it will look killer. Have the picture disk version of Cursed in Eternity box set and I love it. No doubt it will resell for 400 plus within two months though.
I'm only back buying physical copies of albums recently and that DMDS boxset looks deadly!!! Already spent me bollix this month though. Hopefully, it doesn't sell out too quickly. There seem to be a lot of labels doing these cassette box sets. I've already picked up a few of them over the last few months.
https://www.discogs.com/Portal-Tempus-Fugit/release/15095522
https://www.discogs.com/Funeral-Mist-In-Manus-Tuas-The-Cassette-Collection/release/14733938
https://www.discogs.com/Hellhammer-Demon-Entrails/release/14566920
https://www.discogs.com/Possessed-Tape-Collection/release/6765230
https://www.discogs.com/Sodom-Demonized/release/10824395
https://www.discogs.com/Sodom-Shrill-Cries-Angel-Dies/release/9613934
https://www.discogs.com/Samael-Worship-Him-Blood-Ritual-Ceremony-Of-Opposites/release/7742028
https://www.discogs.com/Treblinka-Shrine-Of-The-Pentagram-/release/10735366
I love GDOW. I buzz off it as hard as anything they have released that I know.
Chimera isn't great at all though. I don't think I listened to Daemon or at least can't remember it if I did. Any good?
Quote from: TurnTheAirBlue on May 28, 2020, 12:17:34 AM
I'm only back buying physical copies of albums recently and that DMDS boxset looks deadly!!! Already spent me bollix this month though. Hopefully, it doesn't sell out too quickly. There seem to be a lot of labels doing these cassette box sets. I've already picked up a few of them over the last few months.
https://www.discogs.com/Portal-Tempus-Fugit/release/15095522
https://www.discogs.com/Funeral-Mist-In-Manus-Tuas-The-Cassette-Collection/release/14733938
https://www.discogs.com/Hellhammer-Demon-Entrails/release/14566920
https://www.discogs.com/Possessed-Tape-Collection/release/6765230
https://www.discogs.com/Sodom-Demonized/release/10824395
https://www.discogs.com/Sodom-Shrill-Cries-Angel-Dies/release/9613934
https://www.discogs.com/Samael-Worship-Him-Blood-Ritual-Ceremony-Of-Opposites/release/7742028
https://www.discogs.com/Treblinka-Shrine-Of-The-Pentagram-/release/10735366
Love the Demon Entrails box. astfgyl, I think Daemon is excellent. Moody, with plenty of atmosphere and Atilla going off his nut all the way through.
I enjoyed it. It's pretty straight forward, immediate stuff. Bad Blood was probably my favourite track after my first few playthroughs.
https://open.spotify.com/track/3CSYuhWzMiGpiRS05Wi9VG?si=L-cMyrLQQgmbAXt79HdjrA
I don't buy tapes but have seen those Portal and Funeral Mist ones they look great. I think the Portal one is already sold out.
Still not sure about getting the DMDS box already have the best version of the album released so far the ancient darkness one. Reports about the box seem good so far.
Just listened to Bad Blood there now and I'm going to throw on the full album after it. Nothing like BM on a roasting hot day
There is a version of the album with two bonus tracks, wasn't aware of it.
One of them is called 'Everlasting Dying Flame'. It has a really cool darkly melodic riff at the start. Necrobutcher is playing a descending bassline under the riff, it compliments it really well.
https://open.spotify.com/track/2q2lDyonNKO8DxodQCC246?si=on-E8sSgTbSmA-b1gueWzg
Bonus with the Japanese version I think. Also a version with Morbid, Death and Death Strike covers on it. The longest version of the album has 15 tracks.
Was suppose to see Mayhem live again last month :(
The instrumental rough mix disc would be the for me, but not worth shelling out for that alone.
Yeah, I have DMDS, totally normal version, on vinyl and although the box looks a very nice piece, I've too much on the mental wish list to go and spend a decent fraction of it on that. Have you been striking gold on the digs or wha' Andy?
Haha sadly not. I just got a little caught up in the excitement of it, reading other people's reactions to it and how great it sounded. I hummed and hawed for maybe five minutes and decided I was willing to splash out. I only have it on CD and I think it's one I can justify having on LP as well so I might as well go all out and grab this definitive edition. I'm already over that gutting emptiness that spending too much money on records in one go generates and I have no doubt, from previous experience of doing the same, that once it arrives I'll feel completely justified. But I completely see why others would baulk at coughing out that amount of dough on such a luxury. As my oul granny used to say after a good long mass, fuck the world!
All this talk of Mayhem, I'll probably stick on Ordo Ad Chao later. Alongside DMDS it's one of their best. Was never mad into GDOW, that other yoke doing his very best Liquid Snake impersonation the whole way through was off putting, must revisit it and see if it seems any better. But Ordo... absolute masterpiece. Phenomenal atmosphere, razor sharp riffs, not a single moment of predictable music on it yet it still is completely cohesive, production that sounds like they dug a pit for the band to play in and mic'd it - all the perfect elements for a class BM album.
I'm hoping the new master of DMDS from the boxset gets a single vinyl release. Apparently the sound is fantastic, previous vinyl versions being the CD master slapped onto wax.
I've spent over €150 on music and merch the last 2 weeks so the box is off the cards at the moment.
More on topic, the digibook version of Daemon is worth it for the 2 bonus tracks, as said above, Everlasting Dying Flame is a cool track.
I listened to Daemon yesterday and it was great from start to finish. Not one tune on it I didn't like. Sort of like a cross between DMDS and GDOW in parts
The guitarists were saying that they started writing and recording after touring for the DMDS anniversary. Having played those songs so much over the course of the tour it bled into the writing for this album. Must try Esoteric Warfare, didn't bother with it when it came out.
Esoteric Warfare is decent enough. Not as good as Daemon, but solid enough.
This thread reminds me I never really dive into the back catalogue of Mayhem beyond DMDS. I did enjoy Esoteric Warfare though, the few times I listened to it
New stuff sounds good.
I must be one of the few who enjoyed GDOW however nothing can beat DMDS. Youd wonder where euronymous would have taken the band had he not been killed. Would he have knocked out a few more classics? Say what you want about him but his playing on that record is incredible.
Grand Declaration of War is a very dividing album. Half of people love it and the other half hate it. I've never heard a middle of the road type opinion on it.
GDOW is brilliant, but I can see why fans of what came before wouldn't be enamoured with it. Taken without the context of the previous stuff though it's great.
WLA has one good track on it I think it's very overrated. Chimera is awful. Ordo is a beast of an album but they sound like a totally different Band.
I like WLA but I agree about Chimera. It's pure forgettable shite altogether
The DMDS boxset arrived today. It's some lump. Looking forward to getting a chance to delve into it.
The tracking number on mine says it should be here today. Anticipation is killing me.
It arrived, bit of a ding on the De Mysteries album sleeve but otherwise excellent. Pleased with the new master, I never really had any fault with the old one to be honest. Love the rehersal with Atilla on it.
Any chance of a few pics of it? Well jealous!
Amazon seem to have a few. https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B083XRVRVN?pf_rd_r=21FJE30QZKSEXM0Y0574&pf_rd_p=e632fea2-678f-4848-9a97-bcecda59cb4e (https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B083XRVRVN?pf_rd_r=21FJE30QZKSEXM0Y0574&pf_rd_p=e632fea2-678f-4848-9a97-bcecda59cb4e) I'm not at home until tomorrow evening so I will take a few then.
Just tried to get through Daemon. Laboured my way to the 4th track. It's absolutely fine but I just couldn't care less about it.
I thought it was fantastic. That said it took me a few listens to properly get into it.
I guess I'll never know cause I can't imagine ever going back to it.
That can happen with things for no obvious reason. I only listened to it twice so far but I really liked it both times
Ive given this a good few listens now and while it certainly sounds better to my ears than everything they released after DMDS, I cant see myself going back to it. It sounds actually pretty similar to the debut, and is pretty simplistic for them (which i like) - but there's nothing memorable about it for me. I just never really rated them (bar that one album) and this release isn't going to change that for me anyway...
I like most of their later stuff except Grand Declaration of War. Glad they keep changing it up rather than trying to recapture De Mysteriis.
Thank Satan that clown Maniac fucked off. He is insufferable live and he is incapable of doing justice to any of the songs off DMDS.
Attila is a feckin legend.
If ya have a few mins. to spare go on You Tube sometime and compare Maniac performing Freezing Moon to Attila performing it.
you will also see a thing there of a group of 13 year old Yanks performing it for the school play or some such bollox.
That 13 year old singer is also better than Maniac.
Hiiiiiii.....
Quote from: son of the Morrigan on July 11, 2020, 01:17:14 AM
Thank Satan that clown Maniac fucked off. He is insufferable live and he is incapable of doing justice to any of the songs off DMDS.
Attila is a feckin legend.
If ya have a few mins. to spare go on You Tube sometime and compare Maniac performing Freezing Moon to Attila performing it.
you will also see a thing there of a group of 13 year old Yanks performing it for the school play or some such bollox.
That 13 year old singer is also better than Maniac.
I have to say I loved maniacs vocals on GDOW and Wolf Lairs Abyss but you are right about his live performances.
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