I don't quite know how to categorize this band as they have been all over different genres over the years, but I think they ultimately defy categorisation, one of the few bands that do. I would like to say 'Thrash' or 'Rock' or 'Prog' but that just insults their output. What are your 'go-to' albums by the band? A true consistently inconsistent band.
Mine are ´Killling Technology', 'Angel Rat', 'The Outer Limits', got the 'We are connected' 7" too (all completely different) but I know I'm missing a lot of others, what are your favourites and have you ever seen them live?
I approve of this thread. Saw them once last year in Amsterdam. Talk about being in the right frame of mind for a visit to Planet Voivod!
The run of albums from Killing Technology - The Outer Limits are my go to albums. I can appreciate the early stuff as part of their evolution but I wouldn't stick them on tbh. Never actually gave the new one a chance even though I remember it getting good reviews at the time, must check it out.
Got to see them twice, once with Carcass, Napalm Death and Obituary in Vicar Street and again opening for Entombed AD, I'd love to see them doing a proper headline set though.
Quote from: ldj on June 21, 2019, 11:15:55 PM
Got to see them twice, once with Carcass, Napalm Death and Obituary in Vicar Street and again opening for Entombed AD, I'd love to see them doing a proper headline set though.
Wow, Voivod playing with those bands is like putting pineapple on a pizza, weird setup- no offence to the other bands but did the crowd like them? I would like to think so.
Didn't Jason Newsted join as a member at one point or was that just for an album?
That's a bit of an odd thing to say - I'd imagine that those three bands and Voivod would have a pretty large cross section of fans i.e. metal fans. It's not like they lashed a smooth jazz trio in there.
I take double pineapple on my pizza, so what do I know.
Best band on this or any other universe. I got "Killing Technology" first as a kid and it absolutely blew my mind.
I'd say they've probably had more influence on me as a musician than anyone. Piggy is my absolute hero and when I was about 12 or 13 And really getting into playing guitar testing to figure out all those weird chords was quite an education. I remember getting Bren to come see them last time they were here and apart from me constantly talking about them he wasnt very familiar with them,and by the end he was like "I can see where you steal everything from now" :laugh:
Still an absolute joy live as well. Love them.
"KT" and "Nothingface" are my go to but the new one gets regular airings
Quote from: Ducky on June 22, 2019, 05:28:50 AM
That's a bit of an odd thing to say - I'd imagine that those three bands and Voivod would have a pretty large cross section of fans i.e. metal fans. It's not like they lashed a smooth jazz trio in there.
I take double pineapple on my pizza, so what do I know.
:) I merely meant that they stick out on that lineup. No criticism. I'm just jealous I didn't see it.
'Nothingface' is another good one as someone else mentioned, the title track being the highlight for me.
Piggy used a lot of odd guitar tones (and tunings presumably), would love to see a short documentary or special about his playing/style.
Quote from: leatherface on June 22, 2019, 10:15:00 AM
Piggy used a lot of odd guitar tones (and tunings presumably), would love to see a short documentary or special about his playing/style.
nope, standard tuning. What he DID use a lot of, particularly on "Nothingface" was some kind of harmonizer pedal. The chords at the very end of "Missing Sequences" for example (the bit from about 3:40 here) I worked out and they're fucking impossible to play. Then I saw a video and realised he was only playing two notes but because he was going through that pedal it sounds like there's a lot more at play. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQ3XVCpjCYk
Sorry, I'm a nerd :laugh:
Kind of an aside but I always say to people who never heard them - if you like Voivod circa Nothingface you need to hear Die Kreuzen.
Quote from: Pentagrimes on June 22, 2019, 10:29:12 AM
Quote from: leatherface on June 22, 2019, 10:15:00 AM
Piggy used a lot of odd guitar tones (and tunings presumably), would love to see a short documentary or special about his playing/style.
nope, standard tuning. What he DID use a lot of, particularly on "Nothingface" was some kind of harmonizer pedal. The chords at the very end of "Missing Sequences" for example (the bit from about 3:40 here) I worked out and they're fucking impossible to play. Then I saw a video and realised he was only playing two notes but because he was going through that pedal it sounds like there's a lot more at play. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQ3XVCpjCYk
Sorry, I'm a nerd :laugh:
Kind of an aside but I always say to people who never heard them - if you like Voivod circa Nothingface you need to hear Die Kreuzen.
On Die Kreuzen, I'd recommend the first 3 albums for the VoiVod comparison.
By the time they released Cement in 1991 they were in their Grungegaze phase.
Yeah Century Days and October File specifically. First lp is an amazing record two. They were the Voivod of hardcore
Quote from: Pentagrimes on June 22, 2019, 10:29:12 AM
Quote from: leatherface on June 22, 2019, 10:15:00 AM
Piggy used a lot of odd guitar tones (and tunings presumably), would love to see a short documentary or special about his playing/style.
nope, standard tuning. What he DID use a lot of, particularly on "Nothingface" was some kind of harmonizer pedal.
Thanks for the insight, I had just presumed he was experimenting with his tunings/tones etc.
Can we also talk about how awesome the artwork is on their albums, so much to admire.
Quote from: leatherface on June 22, 2019, 10:15:00 AM
Quote from: Ducky on June 22, 2019, 05:28:50 AM
That's a bit of an odd thing to say - I'd imagine that those three bands and Voivod would have a pretty large cross section of fans i.e. metal fans. It's not like they lashed a smooth jazz trio in there.
I take double pineapple on my pizza, so what do I know.
:) I merely meant that they stick out on that lineup. No criticism. I'm just jealous I didn't see it.
'Nothingface' is another good one as someone else mentioned, the title track being the highlight for me.
Piggy used a lot of odd guitar tones (and tunings presumably), would love to see a short documentary or special about his playing/style.
Well yeah I guess they're the least heavy of them but they're all roughly of the same era. I wouldn't blink swapping between any of them. I'd also just have an olive and pineapple pizza, oh yes :D
I remember reading a thing about a tablature book for KT or DH and it was all wrong. They couldn't work out what Piggy was playing at all.
Been playing the shit out of "Syncroanarchy" this week. Best with this lineup to date.
I just fucking love Voivod. Best band.
Oh, also attention Leatherface: this lad talks about Piggy's gear and all that kinda stuff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1P9E2LITgM
I've never listened to Voivod. I don't know why but I've never given them the time.
I recently read Damn The Machine book and they seem to be one of the only bands that consistently delivered on all fronts.
As Killing Technology seems to be the one I'll start with that.
I'd say start at the beginning. War and Pain is incredible,
Nothingface for me, fantastic album. Not a fan of the first few TBH, RRROOOAAARRR is one of the worst albums I've ever heard. Phobos is a personal favourite, though the Forrest era generally isn't too well thought of.
I only know the first 4 and love all 4. Ridiculous statement about Rrroooaaarrr but doesn't matter to me. Will lash on Phobos now.
Quote from: Pentagrimes on June 17, 2022, 04:46:14 PM
Oh, also attention Leatherface: this lad talks about Piggy's gear and all that kinda stuff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1P9E2LITgM
Awesome, thanks for that link.
Bit of an oddity, found it again last night after desperately trying to remember the band name for ages. it's rare you hear a band try and completely rip off Voivod, but WARTECH are the only band I can think of whose aims seems to have been a straight up Voivod clone band. It was some of the guys from the crust band Axegrinder (who were arguably an Amebix clone). The results are..eh...interesting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYOHpC8I49o
That's something alright :laugh:.
For a band that are influenced by Voivod but not too blatantly I've always thought VHOL scratch the itch, it's Mike from YOB singing with the guitarist from Hammers of Misfortune and drummer from Agalloch, they made two good records a couple of years back.
Remember enjoying the first one. Must revisit it.
They're a band I never got around to, but picked up The Wake last week and giving it a listen now. Plenty to like about it, but not really grabbing me, certainly think the guitars could be a bit more in the mix
Would this be a fairly typical album for them?
There's no such thing as a typical Voivod album but I'd say if you don't like that you probably won't like the others. Give Dimension Hatross a spin.
First heard these when Jason Newstead was picking songs for either Headbangers Ball or Superrock on MTV back in the day and lashed on Insect. I loved it and duly checked out Negatron and Phobos which I still think are great.
Got a bit of a shock with the vocals on the other stuff when I heard it and it took a bit of getting into but I like most of it now except the earliest couple which I never gave much time to. Certainly a unique sound and getting in the mood for a bit reading this. Might throw on Target Earth
War and Pain is a masterpiece.
"Dimension Hatross" is 34(!) years old today. Mad.
New old Voivod coming. Forrest and Newsted make appearances too. Yeah, take my money.
"Morgöth Tales" track listing:
01. Condemned To The Gallows (2023 Version) [originally on "Metal Massacre V" compilation, 1984]
02. Thrashing Rage (2023 Version) [originally on "Rrröööaaarrr", 1986]
03. Killing Technology (2023 Version) [originally on "Killing Technology", 1987]
04. Macrosolutions To Megaproblems (2023 Version) [originally on "Dimension Hatröss", 1988]
05. Pre-Ignition (2023 Version) [originally on "Nothingface", 1989]
06. Nuage Fractal (2023 Version) [originally on "Angel Rat", 1991]
07. Fix My Heart (2023 Version) [originally on "The Outer Limits", 1993]
08. Rise (2023 Version, feat. Eric Forrest) [originally on "Phobos", 1997]
09. Rebel Robot (2023 Version, feat. Jason Newsted) [originally on "Voivod", 2003]
10. Morgöth Tales [New Song]
That's probably going to be well decent. They operate at a very high level for the most part
Great new episode of the Radical Research podcast out now that's an overview of the lads discography. Great if you're not already a fan or aren't sure where to start with them, but also a good listen for the diehards. There's even a brief snip of the unreleased album.
One of the lads behind the podcast has a book about them coming out later in the year called "Always Moving".I'll need that.
Quote from: Pentagrimes on September 13, 2023, 09:11:22 AMGreat new episode of the Radical Research podcast out now that's an overview of the lads discography. Great if you're not already a fan or aren't sure where to start with them, but also a good listen for the diehards. There's even a brief snip of the unreleased album.
One of the lads behind the podcast has a book about them coming out later in the year called "Always Moving".I'll need that.
It's a great episode.
Anyone get that Forgotten In Space vinyl Boxset of the Noise Records era stuff?
Thanks for the heads up on the podcast... Really enjoyed it. Morgoth takes is fantastic