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Title: Musicians That Can't Be Arsed
Post by: Cryptic Stench on June 07, 2019, 12:31:35 PM
Jack Owen must surely win this, can't be arsed playing the lead properly, can't be bothered rocking out with the rest of the band. Amazing to thing this guy has had a 30+ year carreer in music and only managed to be marginally enthused for a tiny fraction of it.

Only clicked on this because it's not often Cannibal belt this one out these days.

https://youtu.be/yISeJccEdlY?t=28
Title: Re: Musicians That Can't Be Arsed
Post by: Slaughterday on June 07, 2019, 01:42:19 PM
Glen Benton for sure. Im still not convinced he remembers any of Deicide's lyrics or if he actually plays bass or not.

Judging by that class video posted a few weeks ago, John Cyriis too!



Title: Re: Musicians That Can't Be Arsed
Post by: CaptainFlint on June 07, 2019, 02:55:56 PM
I'll add Max Cavalera to this list... the most half assed, autopilot performer I've ever seen
Title: Re: Musicians That Can't Be Arsed
Post by: Black Shepherd Carnage on June 07, 2019, 03:02:22 PM
You've a real bee in your bonnet about this Cryptic; an identical thread was one of the last active on MI. The surprise for me isn't ageing musicians who couldn't be arsed anymore, but rather fans who could still be arsed paying to see them!
Title: Re: Musicians That Can't Be Arsed
Post by: ldj on June 07, 2019, 03:11:52 PM
As much as I love Mastodon Brent Hinds and Bill Kelliher fit the bill, both tend to look uncomfortable onstage. Although Troy Sanders has done a good job of taking on the 'frontman' role in recent years.
Title: Re: Musicians That Can't Be Arsed
Post by: Cryptic Stench on June 07, 2019, 04:25:40 PM
QuoteYou've a real bee in your bonnet about this Cryptic; an identical thread was one of the last active on MI. The surprise for me isn't ageing musicians who couldn't be arsed anymore, but rather fans who could still be arsed paying to see them!

I do man, I seen Deicide in the states whilst on vacation and it was one of my worst live experiences. Owen and Benton especially guilty. I'd never pay to see them again. It used to bother the fuck out of me when Cannibal Corpse played here but the rest of the band rocked out so never seemed as bad.  As I say only clicked into that as it's a cool track, to be honest I was shocked to see Owen in the lineup, then again if anyone was going to employ him it would be Six Feet Under!
Title: Re: Musicians That Can't Be Arsed
Post by: Pentagrimes on July 03, 2019, 02:08:05 PM
http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/deicide-performs-at-colombias-rock-al-parque-video/
Yeeeah..definite lack of fucks on display from Benton in particular here. The vocals are spectacular bad.
Title: Re: Musicians That Can't Be Arsed
Post by: mickO))) on July 03, 2019, 03:15:07 PM
I saw Deicide live at the end of May for the first time since 2005 or 2006. I think it was the last time they played Dublin with Glen, I think the actual last Deicide show was maybe 06 or 07 when he didn't show up and they had people from the crowd get up on stage to do vocals?

Anyway I only went because it had been so long since I saw them and was expecting to see a shit show. I don't even think the When Satan Lives album is good the songs just sound sterile and boring compared to the actual studio recordings especially the vocals sound awful. But last month they put on a great show and Glens vocals sounded great my only complaint was all they played from Legion was the typical Dead But Dreaming when in recent years they seemed to start playing a lot of songs from the album which is not only my favorite Decide album but for me is one the greatest albums of all time.

I think the last time they were suppose to play Ireland was in 2009? when they cancelled Trifixion, Holy Deception and few others were on the set list.

I am surprised Glen has never toured any of the first four albums from start to finish.
Title: Re: Musicians That Can't Be Arsed
Post by: mickO))) on July 03, 2019, 03:24:33 PM
Quote from: Cryptic Stench on June 07, 2019, 04:25:40 PM
It used to bother the fuck out of me when Cannibal Corpse played here but the rest of the band rocked out so never seemed as bad. 

Is he not just a bit quiet, introverted and weird? I remember approaching him on a few different occasions anytime he was in TBMC with either Deicide or CC as he use to just sit out in the hallway talking to the roadies drinking and he always came across as very awkward. You can even see on the Monolith DVD he spends a lot of time nearly hiding in behind the big speaker. It can't be easy getting use to playing sober in front of big crowds even just 500 people sure it turned DMC from Run Dmc into an alcoholic.
Title: Re: Musicians That Can't Be Arsed
Post by: Circlepit on July 03, 2019, 06:53:30 PM
Quote from: Pentagrimes on July 03, 2019, 02:08:05 PM
http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/deicide-performs-at-colombias-rock-al-parque-video/

Yeeeah..definite lack of fucks on display from Benton in particular here. The vocals are spectacular bad.

I saw that earlier today. The bass tone cuts through quite clearly which is a surprise but the vocals!! Is there some sort of flange thing on it?  Is it a case of hating the job?
Title: Re: Musicians That Can't Be Arsed
Post by: Cryptic Stench on July 03, 2019, 07:10:18 PM
Yeah, it became a job after Serpents. It does for most bands, but most at least make it look like they're putting on a show. Look at immolation for example!
Title: Re: Musicians That Can't Be Arsed
Post by: DeletedUsermNqGIiIuGy on July 03, 2019, 09:48:02 PM
On the Jack Owens thing.. well he pretty much always wins it. The first time I saw him live was with CC on the wretched spawn tour and I just couldn't get over it how he stood out so much from the others. Might as well have been a cardboard cut out.

But I'm fairly certain back after he finished with CC he had said multiple times he was really bored with death metal and playing it. So you assume he went back to the other death metal bands in the scene to play for cheques and not for enjoyment.
Title: Re: Musicians That Can't Be Arsed
Post by: Pentagrimes on July 04, 2019, 09:02:39 AM
Quote from: Circlepit on July 03, 2019, 06:53:30 PM
Quote from: Pentagrimes on July 03, 2019, 02:08:05 PM
http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/deicide-performs-at-colombias-rock-al-parque-video/

Yeeeah..definite lack of fucks on display from Benton in particular here. The vocals are spectacular bad.

I saw that earlier today. The bass tone cuts through quite clearly which is a surprise but the vocals!! Is there some sort of flange thing on it?  Is it a case of hating the job?

The vocals, effects aside are literally like the Cookie Monster.
Title: Re: Musicians That Can't Be Arsed
Post by: StoutAndAle on July 04, 2019, 12:07:50 PM
The few times that I've seen Clutch, Tim Sult looked like he'd rather be anywhere else than play the gig.
Title: Re: Musicians That Can't Be Arsed
Post by: Goatlord on July 05, 2019, 09:55:58 AM
Quote from: StoutAndAle on July 04, 2019, 12:07:50 PM
The few times that I've seen Clutch, Tim Sult looked like he'd rather be anywhere else than play the gig.
Is that not just a part of their plaid shirt wearing thing though?
Title: Re: Musicians That Can't Be Arsed
Post by: Thorn on July 06, 2019, 03:33:53 AM
plaid shirt wearing thing  :laugh:  too goddamn laid back for denim and leather
Title: Re: Musicians That Can't Be Arsed
Post by: Cryptic Stench on July 06, 2019, 07:21:46 PM
Deicides new guitarist looks like Judas, anyone hear from that fella these days?
Title: Re: Musicians That Can't Be Arsed
Post by: Mooncat on July 12, 2019, 06:30:58 PM
Feel like Kirk Hammett is a shoo-in. I hear he's been battling some pretty hardcore addictions for the past few years (maybe just a rumour), but either way, his live and recorded playing utterly fucking sucks. Well below the level a band as big as Metallica would ever put up with were he not an almost original member.
Title: Re: Musicians That Can't Be Arsed
Post by: Cryptic Stench on July 12, 2019, 07:05:28 PM
I'd say that there's truth there. That I lost my phone with 876 riffs was such a load of bollocks for the last record. Hetfields cryptic comments suggest otherwise.
Title: Re: Musicians That Can't Be Arsed
Post by: Carnage on July 12, 2019, 07:40:48 PM
Quote from: Mooncat on July 12, 2019, 06:30:58 PM
Feel like Kirk Hammett is a shoo-in. I hear he's been battling some pretty hardcore addictions for the past few years (maybe just a rumour), but either way, his live and recorded playing utterly fucking sucks. Well below the level a band as big as Metallica would ever put up with were he not an almost original member.

Hard to mention Metallica in this thread without referring to Ulrich. I haven't seen them since the mid-'90s but he's been the consistent weak link since then - skipping double-bass parts, throwing in endless intrusive fills, timing all over the place - in any recordings I've seen or heard in that time. If it wasn't his band he'd have been long gone IMO.
Title: Re: Musicians That Can't Be Arsed
Post by: Eoin McLove on July 12, 2019, 10:25:31 PM
I always thought Kirk was just addicted to stroking dolphins and fondling unicorns.
Title: Re: Musicians That Can't Be Arsed
Post by: leatherface on July 12, 2019, 11:57:04 PM
Just watching the Smashing Pumpkins playing some festival live on TV and it looks like Billy Corgan and James Iha really couldn't be arsed, faces miles away.  Music doesn't sound all that bad though in fairness. Since when did Billy Corgan start dressing like Pinhead from 'Hellraiser' though ?
Title: Re: Musicians That Can't Be Arsed
Post by: Eoin McLove on July 13, 2019, 12:14:01 AM
He has a head like a cross between a baby and a cavity block.  I wouldn't usually endorse plastic surgery but surely he has enough cash to do something about it at this stage.  Even if he filed the edges down a bit or even just bought a bigger hat!
Title: Re: Musicians That Can't Be Arsed
Post by: Carnage on July 13, 2019, 02:19:32 AM
Or went for a run now and then (it's great to be perfect etc.). Saw them playing an old tune at Download on Sky the other night, the were very much going through the motions.

I think his dress made its first appearance in the video for The Everlasting Gaze, not sure why he stuck with it. Not a great look.
Title: Re: Musicians That Can't Be Arsed
Post by: Jiblet on July 13, 2019, 05:42:44 AM
I just had a luk through this thread and due to the Deicide slaggin I thought I would check them out. Listened to/watched several tunes. Well fuck me, they are pish.  I actually laughed out loud at the video for Scars of the Crucifix. At least I got somethin out of it.
Title: Re: Musicians That Can't Be Arsed
Post by: jpm4 on July 13, 2019, 04:49:38 PM
Think Billy Corgan is genuinely just ripping the piss at this point. One of their most recent videos was very odd  (them in a haunted house or something?) and recent interviews where he is insisting that the band always had a humourous side (they didn't).

Also with the weird shit he comes out with on InfoWars - I think a career of the mainstream not recognising his genius has taken its toll on him and he has stopped trying.