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Title: Darkthrone - Old Stsr
Post by: BlackWizard on March 22, 2019, 01:13:24 AM
New album my these guys!

Always a mystery what these two will come up with!

https://loudwire.com/darkthrone-old-star/
Title: Re: Darkthrone - Old Stsr
Post by: O Drighes on March 22, 2019, 12:03:06 PM
The cover art is great, for a change... but they could never be bothered with covers really.

Looking forward to listening to it. After Fenriz comment mentioning the resemblance to Candlemass' "Epicus..." I hope there's less heavy metal incursions and more slow tempo Darkthrone as in Ravishing Grimness.
Title: Re: Darkthrone - Old Stsr
Post by: hellfire on March 23, 2019, 11:36:14 AM
I'll give this a listen when it comes out. I've been 50/50 on later Darkthrone. Article Thunder was enjoyable enough.
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Post by: Floss on March 26, 2019, 06:56:13 PM
Yeah I'm not sure if we need another DT album after the last few. Personally not a fan of the last few. I'll stick with the first few methinks
Title: Re: Darkthrone - Old Stsr
Post by: Snare on March 26, 2019, 07:03:19 PM
Time for another cover band from the earlier days methinks??  ;)
Title: Re: Darkthrone - Old Stsr
Post by: hellfire on March 30, 2019, 07:15:24 PM
I don't hate their later stuff but it's a fact that if it were released under a different name only about five people would own it  :abbath:
Title: Re: Darkthrone - Old Stsr
Post by: Abandon All Hope on April 23, 2019, 04:29:53 PM
New track up The Hardship Of The Scots.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6h4b-Jm8iU
Title: Re: Darkthrone - Old Stsr
Post by: Melmoth on April 23, 2019, 05:47:01 PM
Definitely a lot more of an old school doom vibe going on there. I'm liking it, looking forward to hearing the whole album.

The way they write one half of the album each though makes it tough to judge what direction the album will take overall just from the one track.
Title: Re: Darkthrone - Old Stsr
Post by: TheFlyingGiraffe on April 23, 2019, 11:06:04 PM
I'm a big fan of Darkthrone. Start, middle and the later stuff. But this isn't catching me at all. I love that first riff, getting real Pagan Altar vibes, but then it's just the same over and over again, it's really repetitive and doesn't go anywhere. And the vocals just seem unenthusiastic and forced. Leaves a lot to be desired...

Cover art is sick though!
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Post by: Cryptic Stench on April 24, 2019, 08:01:51 AM
Dreadful altogether, someone quite rightly pointed out that if the name Darkthrone didn't appear anywhere this would be roundly ignored.

Hard to believe these lads were responsible for both Soulside Journey and the trilogy of Black Metal records that are still revered today such is the volume of complete shit they've released practically ever since.
Title: Re: Darkthrone - Old Stsr
Post by: Juggz on April 24, 2019, 08:53:59 AM
That's fucking mediocre, lads.
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Post by: Eoin McLove on April 24, 2019, 08:55:33 AM
Two decent sections that drag on for too long.  Should either have cut it in half or developed in more.  I like the actual sound though and am willing to give the album a go.
Title: Re: Darkthrone - Old Stsr
Post by: Cryptic Stench on April 24, 2019, 09:04:45 AM
These days it literally sounds like the lads meet up, have a few tins and whatever riff is the best out of any given session equals a seven minute song.
Title: Re: Darkthrone - Old Stsr
Post by: O Drighes on April 24, 2019, 12:36:00 PM
I've been an instant Darkthrone fan since I first heard it and really like all the albums even if I don't get why a song or another has even been written under the Darkthrone moniker. Said that, they had never changed - to a certain extent - their tones. Either more or less well produced, the Darkthrone sound was always there, and this time it just vanished completely. Fenriz wasn't exagerating when he mentioned Candlemass as a reference...

This new song sounds like any other band playing this style. To put it as a friend once politely remarked on mediocre music, "almost decent". 

I personally follow this criteria: would I give it credit wasn't the (strong) name Darkthrone attached to it? Probably not, so one either genuinely enjoys the new song (which can be the shitty one in the whole album, who knows) or saying it is a good song is just a struggle to admit they could have finally lost it altogether.

Hope the other songs are far better than this...
Title: Re: Darkthrone - Old Stsr
Post by: Floss on April 24, 2019, 01:15:58 PM
Yup, instantly forgettable and middle of the road.  But the sound (for DT anyway) isn't bad.

I'll stick with Soulside/Blaze I think.
Title: Re: Darkthrone - Old Stsr
Post by: Trev on April 25, 2019, 08:13:25 AM
Sounds like a discarded Grand Magus riff
Title: Re: Darkthrone - Old Stsr
Post by: Juggz on April 25, 2019, 08:18:36 AM
Sounds like Revelations played slowly

https://youtu.be/C3pF-b1tXR0?t=110
Title: Re: Darkthrone - Old Stsr
Post by: Melmoth on May 30, 2019, 04:53:07 PM
New track up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMEqcvQQ5s0
Title: Re: Darkthrone - Old Stsr
Post by: ochoill on May 30, 2019, 09:18:08 PM
Quote from: Cryptic Stench on April 24, 2019, 09:04:45 AM
These days it literally sounds like the lads meet up, have a few tins and whatever riff is the best out of any given session equals a seven minute song.
Shit my methods have been rumbled
Title: Re: Darkthrone - Old Stsr
Post by: O Drighes on May 31, 2019, 12:28:47 AM
It just sounds like a completely different band...  can't say I don't like the middle section on this song, but the tones and riffs and even the vocals sound nothing like the iconic soundscape they have.
Title: Re: Darkthrone - Old Stsr
Post by: Eoin McLove on May 31, 2019, 10:51:09 AM
Gave it a spin last night.  Not very exciting in any way and I feel the need to air a peeve here.  Those stupid fucking videos where the artwork of the album comes to life look so bad.  At least as bad as lyric videos.  Maybe worse...
Title: Re: Darkthrone - Old Stsr
Post by: Shitstirrer on June 02, 2019, 12:37:05 AM
They tipped the scale on the good albums versus bad along time ago .


Title: Re: Darkthrone - Old Stsr
Post by: Trev on June 02, 2019, 03:47:26 AM
Quote from: Shitstirrer on June 02, 2019, 12:37:05 AM
They tipped the scale on the good albums versus bad along time ago .
Yep,  they're the Star Wars of metal, overwhelmingly shite but people keep giving the new stuff a go because the first couple were pretty good
Title: Re: Darkthrone - Old Stsr
Post by: ldj on June 03, 2019, 10:08:26 PM
Quote from: Trev on June 02, 2019, 03:47:26 AM
Quote from: Shitstirrer on June 02, 2019, 12:37:05 AM
They tipped the scale on the good albums versus bad along time ago .
Yep,  they're the Star Wars of metal, overwhelmingly shite but people keep giving the new stuff a go because the first couple were pretty good
There's a lot of metal bands you could say that about  :laugh:.
Title: Re: Darkthrone - Old Stsr
Post by: Cernunnos on June 06, 2019, 08:10:54 AM
I get the negativity they receive after each album, from long time metal fans.   ive always been a huge fan since the early Black metal albums.
But it does seem no matter what they put out it will sell and get praise.

I always look forward to listening to a new album ,  i always lean more to Ted's songs, love his vocals. In saying that after a few listens  i can see it being treated like arctic thunder and a few of their last albums, i.e they get a few listens every few months.  Where as Panzerfaust & the BM Trilogy get regular spins. 
Title: Re: Darkthrone - Old Stsr
Post by: Eoin McLove on January 30, 2023, 05:12:46 AM
This is the only Darkthrone thread I can see here so here we go.

I saw the other day that Peaceville (I think it is) are releasing a new edition of Goatlord, with new artwork that looks like total shit to me. What caught my attention was that it is the "original instrumental version". I didn't know much about this album other than that it was recorded after Soulside Journey but was subsequently shelved when the band decided to turn away from DM and go BM for Ablaze in the Northern Sky.

What I didn't know was that it was never properly recorded and was only a rehearsal take of the album and that Fenriz added vocals over it years later.

I have the CD, I picked it up off someone here a few years ago, but it ended up getting maybe a cursory listen before being put on the shelf and forgotten about. In my curiosity I decided to give it a spin and see what the negative fuss was about regarding the vocals and it sounds bloody excellent to me! I've been overlooking this little gem for years.

I find Soulside a bit sterile. I put it on from time to time and it's alright but I always end up going back to the early black metal releases, but this is another level. The raw production keeps the music nice and lively, but the real surprise is the insane vocals. The falsetto parts are nutty. What the hell was Fenriz thinking I wonder, and I'm glad they aren't on the trilogy of classic albums, but I fucking love them in this context. He sounds like he just got drunk and had some fun recording different vocal styles and the album is way more interesting than my cursory listen picked up on before.

Funny how some negative comments drew my attention to something that has been hiding on my shelf unnoticed.

 8)

Edit. The falsetto vocals, at least on track 5, sound like they were preformed by a woman. Is it the chick from Storm/ The 3rd and the Mortal?
Title: Re: Darkthrone - Old Stsr
Post by: Eoin McLove on January 30, 2023, 09:29:38 AM
Quote from: Snare on March 26, 2019, 07:03:19 PMTime for another cover band from the earlier days methinks??  ;)

Caarkthrone bai!

A mere 4 years it took me to come up with that.
Title: Re: Darkthrone - Old Stsr
Post by: Carnage on January 30, 2023, 09:39:22 AM
FYI this instrumental version of Goatlord was previously released as part of the Frostland Tapes compilation, unless it's been remastered.
Title: Re: Darkthrone - Old Stsr
Post by: CorkonianHunger on January 30, 2023, 12:47:33 PM
Quote from: Eoin McLove on January 30, 2023, 05:12:46 AMEdit. The falsetto vocals, at least on track 5, sound like they were preformed by a woman. Is it the chick from Storm/ The 3rd and the Mortal?

I'm fairly certain I read somewhere its Fenriz with pitched up vocals  :laugh:
Title: Re: Darkthrone - Old Stsr
Post by: Eoin McLove on January 30, 2023, 07:38:53 PM
Fair enough  :laugh:  It sounds great.

Some of the falsetto bits make me think of the fairy godmother on Wizard of Oz for some reason hehe.
Title: Re: Darkthrone - Old Stsr
Post by: Snare on February 10, 2023, 12:58:19 AM
Quote from: Eoin McLove on January 30, 2023, 09:29:38 AM
Quote from: Snare on March 26, 2019, 07:03:19 PMTime for another cover band from the earlier days methinks??  ;)

Caarkthrone bai!

A mere 4 years it took me to come up with that.

Could have waited longer  :P 

Looking forward to reenactments of Leeside Journey, A blaze in the Norrie Sky, "To Walk the Lee Fields" from  Under a Funeral Moon, and to rob a user name here, Corkonian Hunger  :abbath:

Title: Re: Darkthrone - Old Stsr
Post by: hellfire on February 10, 2023, 06:45:20 PM
Threw on Soulside Journey on the back of this thread. It's not great if you compare it to what came later but taken on it's own merits it's a decent slab of early 90s death metal.
Title: Re: Darkthrone - Old Stsr
Post by: CorkonianHunger on February 10, 2023, 07:21:32 PM
Quote from: Snare on February 10, 2023, 12:58:19 AM
Quote from: Eoin McLove on January 30, 2023, 09:29:38 AM
Quote from: Snare on March 26, 2019, 07:03:19 PMTime for another cover band from the earlier days methinks??  ;)

Caarkthrone bai!

A mere 4 years it took me to come up with that.

Could have waited longer  :P 

Looking forward to reenactments of Leeside Journey, A blaze in the Norrie Sky, "To Walk the Lee Fields" from  Under a Funeral Moon, and to rob a user name here, Corkonian Hunger  :abbath:



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